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mainer

(12,022 posts)
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 01:46 PM Oct 2018

Kavanaugh's college roommate tweets:

From Jamie Roche:

As Brett Kavanaugh's college freshman roommate, I was never contacted by the FBI for any of their background checks. I assume college behavior was not a topic of interest. They did not find Debbie's story because they were not looking for it.



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Kavanaugh's college roommate tweets: (Original Post) mainer Oct 2018 OP
It's not just college behavior, it's lying to the Judiciary Committe about his college behavior. n/t Jim__ Oct 2018 #1
Under oath he was lying. calimary Oct 2018 #24
No. They were looking to not find it. n/t CincyDem Oct 2018 #2
You may be correct. It appears there is evidence of Kavanaugh*s bad behavior... Raster Oct 2018 #4
First investigator that reports any bad stuff will be fired- Trump onit2day Oct 2018 #20
k and r Achilleaze Oct 2018 #3
Michael Signorele said during his show dsc Oct 2018 #5
My brother & son both had government security checks. They checked into their tblue37 Oct 2018 #9
Not So, when I got a background check Farmer-Rick Oct 2018 #10
There are different levels of security clearances and different protocols for each level grantcart Oct 2018 #15
Maybe it shouldn't be that way? LiberalFighter Oct 2018 #21
It is Monday...do FBI agents work on weekends much? How many were aroused on Saturday Fred Sanders Oct 2018 #6
+100 Woosaaaa's Separation Oct 2018 #8
I'm assuming this was speaking of past investigations mythology Oct 2018 #11
We didnt think a drunken rapist prick would stop them from killing women in back alleys did we? Eliot Rosewater Oct 2018 #7
I don't think the FBI go deep when it is a background check for an elite. Equinox Moon Oct 2018 #12
Bingo PaulX2 Oct 2018 #16
Are FBI background vets this meager? dawg day Oct 2018 #13
However, what happens with the FBI background check NewJeffCT Oct 2018 #19
This is the guy who Kavanaugh refused to talk about in front of the Senate, right? Tarc Oct 2018 #14
I wonder if Kavanaugh told the FBI earlier Samspadesnark Oct 2018 #17
If FBI instructed to not query certain people, what happens... Beartracks Oct 2018 #18
OMG. When I lived on Capitol Hill, the FBI asked me displacedtexan Oct 2018 #22
k&r DesertRat Oct 2018 #23
Was the FBI instructed to avoid interviewing certain people about certain topics... Nitram Oct 2018 #25
We're getting scammed... the fix is in!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #26
I heard on npr d_r Oct 2018 #27

Jim__

(14,076 posts)
1. It's not just college behavior, it's lying to the Judiciary Committe about his college behavior. n/t
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 01:48 PM
Oct 2018

Raster

(20,998 posts)
4. You may be correct. It appears there is evidence of Kavanaugh*s bad behavior...
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 01:50 PM
Oct 2018

...all certain investigators have to do is FIND IT.

dsc

(52,162 posts)
5. Michael Signorele said during his show
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 01:52 PM
Oct 2018

that he lives next door to someone who needs security checks occasionally. The way it works is the subject lists names that the FBI then asks. If something comes up talking to those people they ask others as needed. So Kavanaugh didn't give that roommate's name.

tblue37

(65,357 posts)
9. My brother & son both had government security checks. They checked into their
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 02:15 PM
Oct 2018

high school background, their college background, and a lot more. They had to provide past addresses, so long time neighbors could be interviewed about them. All my son's former roommates were interviewed. Even the guy my son roomed with during the first month of a study-abroad as a college sophomore was interviewed. His ex-girlfriend and the people he hung out with were also interviewed.

Since my brother was being checked for a military intelligence position, the men checking into him were in uniform. I was in high school at the time, and my friends all wanted to know why men in uniform were going around the school asking teachers and the principal so many questions about my brother.

I guess they took background checks more seriously back then (1967). But my son's check was in 1999, over 30 years later than my brother's, and they still did a very thorough job of it.

Farmer-Rick

(10,170 posts)
10. Not So, when I got a background check
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 02:17 PM
Oct 2018

I was given a form to fill out that went back through high school. Of course I was in my late 30s at the time. It clearly indicated huge fines and jail time if I failed to tell the truth. There was also a point when an agent went over the completed form with me. He actively sought out names I had forgotten and hadn't listed.

My high school friends all called to tell me that the FBI had talked to them. Even friends I hadn't listed because I had forgotten their names....they must have gotten the names from other friends I had listed.

Of course they all assumed the investigation was for nefarious reasons...thanks friends.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
15. There are different levels of security clearances and different protocols for each level
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 02:43 PM
Oct 2018

More to the point this is an FBI background check on a Supreme Court nominee. The level of enquiry will be based on the parameters set by the WH

LiberalFighter

(50,928 posts)
21. Maybe it shouldn't be that way?
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 04:36 PM
Oct 2018

Considering that both the Executive and Legislative branch decide who will be in the Judicial branch. It would seem that there should be clear requirements for the background check and investigation.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
6. It is Monday...do FBI agents work on weekends much? How many were aroused on Saturday
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 01:55 PM
Oct 2018

morning to start a follow up investigation which is first by marshalling the organization and resources again, then look at the instructions, then speak to legal counsel, then send out specific agents for specific tasks, blah, blah, blah..took the weekend to that I suppose.

Give it time, the FBI is not on the social media news cycle clock.

Separation

(1,975 posts)
8. +100 Woosaaaa's
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 02:14 PM
Oct 2018

I agree I think we all do. That this is a very high voltage topic, and people are used to getting their news NOW, whether it's because of the 24/7 news cycle people have become accustomed to, or social media. Everyone needs to stay vigilant and ask questions, just know that FBI investigations don't happen as fast as an episode of NTSF:SD:SUV:

Good post.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
7. We didnt think a drunken rapist prick would stop them from killing women in back alleys did we?
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 02:06 PM
Oct 2018

That and making sure GOP prez are officially above the law

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
12. I don't think the FBI go deep when it is a background check for an elite.
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 02:37 PM
Oct 2018

These privileged white guys get a broad brush stroke of a background check.

Now we know!

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
13. Are FBI background vets this meager?
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 02:41 PM
Oct 2018

I've never had to undergo one, but I've been asked by the FBI to answer questions about two young neighbors. One was going to get a minor administrative job with a government contractor (not defense- student loans), and the other was joining the military.

I was asked how long they'd each lived in the neighborhood, where they went to school while they lived there, and if they'd ever been in trouble.

As I said, we were just neighbors. I knew them, of course, but not well. The FBI was talking to everyone on our street... for the most minimal of appointments.

It makes you wonder whether all along, the FBI has been constrained in investigating this one man, if they didn't even talk to his college roommate.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
19. However, what happens with the FBI background check
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:03 PM
Oct 2018

is that the results go to Ken Starr (first) and then George W Bush, and if they didn't care about high school & college drinking, then Ken Starr would hire them or George W Bush would nominate them for federal courts. Since W had his own problems when he was younger, he likely might not care... and, Ken Starr might not have seen it as relevant in the mid to late 90s.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
14. This is the guy who Kavanaugh refused to talk about in front of the Senate, right?
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 02:42 PM
Oct 2018

The "I don't want to talk about it in public, so refer to my redacted testimony" cop-out at the Senate hearing.

Samspadesnark

(75 posts)
17. I wonder if Kavanaugh told the FBI earlier
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 02:57 PM
Oct 2018

that he couldn't remember the names of his roommates? If this investigation turns up nothing and leads nowhere, I will suspect we've been duped.

Beartracks

(12,814 posts)
18. If FBI instructed to not query certain people, what happens...
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:01 PM
Oct 2018

... if those particular people make their knowledge public on their own? Is the FBI then obligated to acknowledge or otherwise take such information into account?

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displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
22. OMG. When I lived on Capitol Hill, the FBI asked me
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 05:48 PM
Oct 2018

about my DEA agent neighbor's recycling habits because another neighbor complained he was putting cardboard in the alley trash cans instead of the recycling bins. And this was merely for a job promotion. They also asked if the police had ever been called to the guy's house.

Don't let anyone tell you the FBI aren't thorough.

d_r

(6,907 posts)
27. I heard on npr
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:48 AM
Oct 2018

that the standard fbi background check goes back 18 years. So when the gop keeps saying that he has had six background checks before, unless they happened when he was 36, they didn't go back that far.

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