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NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:37 PM Oct 2018

I'm finding the defeatism on Kavanaugh unbearable: He will NEVER be a SCOTUS Justice

With the FBI investigation now expanded, our worst case scenario is he loses confirmation 52-48 on the senate floor. The more likely scenario is Trump pulls his nomination. He’s more likely to resign as an appeals judge than sit on the SCOTUS.

As a wise DUer said, he cannot withstand what is swirling around him.

Not sure why so many are conceding defeat on Kavanaugh in the 3rd quarter?

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I'm finding the defeatism on Kavanaugh unbearable: He will NEVER be a SCOTUS Justice (Original Post) NewsCenter28 Oct 2018 OP
Must be bears fans watching the Green Bay game... pbmus Oct 2018 #1
Haha! NewsCenter28 Oct 2018 #2
Or Eagles fans watching the Titans BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #12
I haven't given up hope, but I still think confirmation is more likely than not. Garrett78 Oct 2018 #3
I've not conceded defeat, but I understand why some are discouraged marylandblue Oct 2018 #4
They have no reason to pull his nom. Fullduplexxx Oct 2018 #5
That was my prediction and I'm sticking to it malaise Oct 2018 #6
Prepare for the worst and hope for the best. elocs Oct 2018 #7
Umm, because we were also convinced maxrandb Oct 2018 #8
This right here JustAnotherGen Oct 2018 #14
Yeah, that bothers me too. honest.abe Oct 2018 #9
we don't have the authority to conceed... lame54 Oct 2018 #10
I think many of us hope with all our hearts that you are right, but unitedwethrive Oct 2018 #11
Why do you think they will drop his nomination? FWIW I thought that Thomas Autumn Oct 2018 #13
There's an overwhelming amount of concern. It started as soon as the FBI investigation did. PubliusEnigma Oct 2018 #15
It has been that way on a daily basis, since he was nominated. hlthe2b Oct 2018 #16
The ACA repeal vote in 2017 NewsCenter28 Oct 2018 #18
Many experts think they'll push for a vote. Hortensis Oct 2018 #17
Yep. I've learned to ignore all those posts Lucinda Oct 2018 #19
I'm usually pretty negative and pessimistic, but the last few days ecstatic Oct 2018 #20

BumRushDaShow

(128,991 posts)
12. Or Eagles fans watching the Titans
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:50 PM
Oct 2018

(heard some fan remark last week - "It's not an Eagles win if it doesn't take 5 years off your life". Guess he got his 5 years back this week )

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
4. I've not conceded defeat, but I understand why some are discouraged
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:40 PM
Oct 2018

We are in the uncomfortable position of relying on a handful of Republican Senators shutting down a nominee they actually want.

elocs

(22,576 posts)
7. Prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:42 PM
Oct 2018

Reality sucks but it is what it is. I think there are too many who live in a fantasy land where if they wish and hope something will happen badly enough it will. I just don't see that happening here but I'm prepared to be surprised.

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
14. This right here
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 04:05 PM
Oct 2018

And all of the time he's been President - the GOP in Congress have covered for him.

They always let Dear Leader have his way.

Always.

lame54

(35,290 posts)
10. we don't have the authority to conceed...
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:47 PM
Oct 2018

offering an opinion - even a negative one - is not the same as wielding any type of power

complaints here have no bearing on the outcome

no need to

unitedwethrive

(1,997 posts)
11. I think many of us hope with all our hearts that you are right, but
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:47 PM
Oct 2018

we’ve seen the repubs lie, cheat and steal so often that it is hard to remain optimistic. For instance, it’s possible that Flake is just deflecting and will use the skimpy FBI investigation to claim that no wrongdoing was done, so he feels fine voting for confirmation, bringing Collins and Murkowski along with him. Wouldn’t surprise me at all.

Autumn

(45,084 posts)
13. Why do you think they will drop his nomination? FWIW I thought that Thomas
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:53 PM
Oct 2018

would never be a SCOTUS Justice.

hlthe2b

(102,276 posts)
16. It has been that way on a daily basis, since he was nominated.
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 04:09 PM
Oct 2018

The naysayers are determined--for whatever reason and undeterred no matter what the news of the day, positive or negative.

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
18. The ACA repeal vote in 2017
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 04:16 PM
Oct 2018

If we had lost that, I’d be far less hopeful. That combined with the fact that Flake forced an expanded FBI investigation is what I hang my hat on.

It’s not over but there’s a lot of reason to hope and feel confident. I understand being on edge about this though. Totally got ya there.

Also, if all is good, why was Trump even more hysterical than usual today?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. Many experts think they'll push for a vote.
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 04:14 PM
Oct 2018

They apparently desperately need to satisfy their base, and they are thus doing their best to force his confirmation through. Success would have trumpsters victory dancing all over the nation and jazzed to go vote. They will blame failure, if it occurs (I think it will), on evil machinations by the Democrats. Trump's always a wild card, of course.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
19. Yep. I've learned to ignore all those posts
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 04:27 PM
Oct 2018

There are always people playing the negative angles - I think it helps some people to not become too disappointed if things go badly

ecstatic

(32,704 posts)
20. I'm usually pretty negative and pessimistic, but the last few days
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 05:26 PM
Oct 2018

should have provided hope to even the hardest realists/cynics.

The only (somewhat disgusting) question we should be asking ourselves is would we prefer trump to install an impeachable asshole or a choir boy/gal asshole. That depends on how much time is in the clock.

Can we prevent any more action on nominees for the rest of the year?

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