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Breaking on CNN.... kavenaugh in bar fight (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2018 OP
Ban the man from the Supreme Court. idcdu Oct 2018 #1
Happens all the time. Well, in Kavanaughs circle, I could surely see it. ffr Oct 2018 #2
If it came out later that KavaNOPE beat his wife few would be shocked or surprised uponit7771 Oct 2018 #3
Absolutely not. Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2018 #23
Aggressive rapey drunk. Scurrilous Oct 2018 #4
Boofin', Brawlin' Brett! PubliusEnigma Oct 2018 #5
shouldn't be disqualifying in and of itself. maxsolomon Oct 2018 #6
oh, come on NJCher Oct 2018 #22
he is a thug JI7 Oct 2018 #7
He 's the definition of a malaise Oct 2018 #10
Bloomberg story with details of bar fight MountCleaners Oct 2018 #8
Red Red Whiner. Scurrilous Oct 2018 #11
*snort* Nevilledog Oct 2018 #24
No surprise that Dudley would throw elbows! Anon-C Oct 2018 #14
Didn't Dudley just come out choie Oct 2018 #18
Yes, he did, but his teammate said otherwise. Blue_true Oct 2018 #20
The Chris Dudley guy claimed a couple of days ago that Kavanaugh was a saint. Blue_true Oct 2018 #19
He is a violent thug. dalton99a Oct 2018 #9
This Story Suggests Otherwise ProfessorGAC Oct 2018 #13
Yup, I agree. He's a spoiled, cowardly, entitled punk. nt SunSeeker Oct 2018 #21
K&R BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #12
He picks on the weakest among these Armymedic88 Oct 2018 #15
He likes beer... Sometimes he likes beer too much... Blue Owl Oct 2018 #16
Boofus the Doofus nt torius Oct 2018 #17
PHYSICALLY GO TO AN FBI FIELD OFFICE AND INSIST ON REPORTING IF YOU HAVE INFORMATION ON KAV. SuprstitionAintthWay Oct 2018 #25
he should be on the Wisconsin Supreme Court KayF Oct 2018 #26
 

idcdu

(170 posts)
1. Ban the man from the Supreme Court.
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 07:29 PM
Oct 2018

He's a chronic fucking liar and Flake, Murkowski and Collins along with Manchin and Heitkamp better be a fucking no.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
2. Happens all the time. Well, in Kavanaughs circle, I could surely see it.
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 07:30 PM
Oct 2018

Bet he got his ass kicked for mouthing off or caught red handed groping.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
23. Absolutely not.
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 10:33 PM
Oct 2018

His behavior toward the female senators on the committee shows that even under the white hot lights of national coverage, he still felt that he had the right to mouth off to them. His asking Senator Klobacher if she had ever blacked out - twice - shocked me. His treatment of Senator Feinstein should have brought the chairman's gavel down, yet that fossilized turd, Grassley, did nothing.

When Bitch McConnell thought that Senator Warren crossed some imaginary line in the Jeff Sessions AG confirmation hearings, he didn't hesitate to condemn her for her treatment of a fellow senator. Whatever happened to the decorum we used to see in the Senate ? I guess it only applies to old white men.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
6. shouldn't be disqualifying in and of itself.
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 07:37 PM
Oct 2018

lots of us have been in bar fights, especially in the 80s. not me, but like, people in movies.

WHY ARE DEMOCRATS SO MEAN?

NJCher

(35,672 posts)
22. oh, come on
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 10:21 PM
Oct 2018

We're talking about the Supreme Court here. Lifetime appointment.

There's a thing in government called "a higher standard." Even municipal employees are subject to it, and what it means is that gov't employees should meet a higher standard than a normal, everyday person.

When you're talking the rarified atmosphere of the Supreme Court, you have to be exceptional.

Kavanaugh is not even exceptional. He is a bar room drunk with a bad attitude and he's not too intelligent, at that. How he got where he is today is that he is willing to stoop very low for his corporate overlords. He is a political operative in the judicial system.

He doesn't belong in the law at all. I hope he is disbarred for his lies.


MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
8. Bloomberg story with details of bar fight
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 07:44 PM
Oct 2018

...he mistook a guy at the bar for the lead singer of UB40.

Kavanaugh first cursed at the man. After the man responded in kind, Kavanaugh threw a beer in his face, said Charles Ludington, a former Yale basketball player who’s now a history professor at North Carolina State University. The act precipitated a brawl that drew in their other friend -- Yale basketball star and future NBA player Chris Dudley -- and eventually prompted a call to police.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-01/kavanaugh-college-visit-to-bar-erupted-in-fight-classmate-says-jmqwga1s

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
20. Yes, he did, but his teammate said otherwise.
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 09:10 PM
Oct 2018

If Dudley was the one arrested, that would be on police records.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. The Chris Dudley guy claimed a couple of days ago that Kavanaugh was a saint.
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 09:08 PM
Oct 2018

That he drank, but was a saint. Sounds like he lied.

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
13. This Story Suggests Otherwise
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 07:53 PM
Oct 2018

A chippy punk, yes. Thug, no.
Notice how it's either a woman or somebody else has to step in? (like Dudley)
Starts fights but only if it's not a fair fight!
A punk move!

 

Armymedic88

(251 posts)
15. He picks on the weakest among these
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 08:08 PM
Oct 2018

Which completely explains why he's a republican. Where I come from guy's like him get curb stomped!

25. PHYSICALLY GO TO AN FBI FIELD OFFICE AND INSIST ON REPORTING IF YOU HAVE INFORMATION ON KAV.
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 03:48 AM
Oct 2018

[Sorry for all the repeats of this... still working on crossing my 10 replies threshhold to be able to make it a thread.]

I sent the below to Greg Sargent at the Post, Gail Collins at the Times, Rachel's show, and CNN. Trump is playing word games and lying about the latitude the FBI has while he runs out the clock on his sham investigation. I wrote the below before his supposed relaxing of the restrictions Monday, but my opinion hasn't changed. I notice we still haven't seen either set of Trump's orders to the FBI. Until we do, assume Trump's lying and the background investigation is still on a severely tight leash. WaPo says the restrictions are slightly less than they were, but they don't know how or how much. And what they were was a farce: 4 people, 3 of whom were already on record as remembering nothing, and the 4th already on record as denying everything. 


I'd rather this be a new thread but I just re-joined (after a decade) and can't make it a thread yet. If someone else will copy and paste it into its own thread, please do. 

If McConnell holds a vote Friday, then 3 of the 6 days the FBI has are already gone. Witnesses against Kavanaugh need to force their statements into this outrageous "process." This is how. 


Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 6:32 PM 
To: rachel@msnbc.com 
Subject: Fw: Publicize a way to get Kav reports into FBI records anyway 


Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 6:01 PM 
To: sargentg@washpost.com 
Subject: Publicize a way to get Kav reports into FBI records anyway 


Hi Greg: 

I think this workaround will work; check with your Bureau sources about whether it will. 

Do your best to get the word out, FAST, that if you have relevant info on Kavanaugh or Mark Judge, to not call the FBI and wait for a call back, because that's probably been specifically prohibited by McCabe and Trump until the 7 days are up. 

Tell people to instead PHYSICALLY GO TO AN FBI OFFICE, tell them you're there to REPORT A FEDERAL CRIME, and then sit in their damn lobby and refuse to leave until a SPECIAL AGENT TAKES YOUR REPORT. 

INSIST you want to report the crime RIGHT THERE AND THEN, and don't let them put you off. Because they probably will if you let them, Christopher Wray is almost surely under presidential orders to essentially run out the clock on this background investigation (BI) extension. 

Thursday Sep. 27, 2018 Brett Kavanaugh committed maybe 100 federal crimes. He lied under oath to Congress about that many times, and everybody witnessed it. Whichever lie he told that a person has specific knowledge is false, is the federal crime to report there in the FBI field office. 

And again, you must INSIST on reporting what you know to be a federal crime, based on whatever information you have that is contrary to his lie. Be prepared for the field office agents to try to not take the report, by saying it falls under a BI that a special team of agents is doing and you'd need to report it directly to them. Well, that special BI team of agents are not going to talk to you until after Friday, if then.  

So INSIST. There has been a federal crime committed, and you insist on reporting what you know about it, right then and there. 

Stay until you do. 

Ask for a photocopy of the statement you sign. 

Take the special agent's name. I believe they're required to submit it within 24 hours of receiving the report. Ask to be emailed and mailed a copy of it. 

When you leave, immediately send all of the particulars to the Democratic senator of your choice. And to the Washington Post, New York Times, New Yorker, CNN, MSNBC, Guardian, and whatever other media of your choice. Probably the FBI will instruct you not to disclose your report to anybody... "ongoing investigation" and all that. I'd do it anyway and take my chances, because to not will probably be to have accomplished nothing. 

If everyone who knows factually about a Kavanaugh lie to Congress does this immediately, we can at least get the reports physically into the FBI somewhere. And Democratic senators, the principled media, and the American public hopefully can successfully demand that the reports be taken into account before a final vote to confirm Kavanaugh.  

I hope this works. We are in a fast-moving constitutional crisis created by a dishonest authoritarian president and his Republican senator co-conspirators. The White House is in the position to make Christopher Wray run out the clock while avoiding any new negative information about Kavanaugh in a sham of a BI. And we need to do everything can to counter this, right NOW. 

Thank you. 

KayF

(1,345 posts)
26. he should be on the Wisconsin Supreme Court
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 05:59 AM
Oct 2018

they get in to literal, physical brawls. Plus of course the beer.

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