Mocking a victim of sexual assault is an incredible mistake

[Stuart G]

Millions of women have been assaulted. These women have friends and relatives who have sensitivity for them and with them. So Trump has mocked a significant majority of them. Maybe most of them. Those women and friends will not forget this, and come November the significance will be clear.

....Trump could apologize, but he never apologizes for anything. As usual, he will double down, and do it again. He will be told not to, but he thinks he knows it all so, he will double down and mock her again. He has stepped over a line that only a truly stupid person would step. He is done, and so are those that support him.

...One more thought. Yes, there is a group that will support Trump no matter what he says. That is true. But as people talk about this, (and people will talk about this) that group in my opinion will get much smaller. Some just won't vote in November. And some will vote against the Republican Party that support Trump. How many? The answer will be seen the day after the November 6 election. But guess what? There is a whole month for people to talk about this asshole comment. Plenty of time for an apology..(I don't think Trump will ever apologize) and for people to decide to vote for the Democratic Party, since the Republican Party will support the asshole....plenty of time to talk about this..

[lapfog_1]

1. That EVERY woman in the world hasn't decided to march in opposition to this asshole

astounds me. At least every woman in the USA. But there they (some) were cheering loudly at the asshole while he mocked Dr. Ford.

[MoonRiver]

3. And how many of them were paid trolls?

[OliverQ]

9. Most people behind him at the podium are paid.

Always ads on Craiglist for people to attend and if they don't show enthusiasm and clap loudly, they get removed.

[Fred Sanders]

10. Craiglist should advertise their success at drawing fake crowds for politicians!

[JHB]

38. Not always, but I'm sure more now after "plaid shirt guy"

They definitely pay to boost turnout, but never underestimate the number of volunteer assholes.

[Stuart G]

18. Yes, there are "some" that cheer this "asshole" but think of it this way..That "some" has

gotten much smaller because of what Trump said. Also, that "some" were people who had strong enough allegiance to him to get to an event, park the car, get a seat, and sit through that event. Those people are not going to change their minds. But most people in this country, in my opinion, will see this as stupid and insensitive as it really is. That is what I believe, and come the November election, we will all see if people remember this. Trump is the leader of the Republican Partly. I think people will always remember this one...
..always , like mocking the reporter, or father of a slain soldier. But this one is more inclusive. Far more people know victims of sexual abuse, than reporters or parents of slain soldiers. And, of course, I could be totally wrong on this. In about 4 weeks (on November 7) we will know.

[Fritz Walter]

48. Waiting for Kellyanne to march out of the West Wing

In light of her recent announcement, she should pack up her personal belongings, turn in her Blackberry, and show us what shred of dignity she still has.

Not holding my breath!

[lapfog_1]

50. yeah, if you held your breath for that

I'm afraid we would lose 1 more DUer!

[Aristus]

2. I wish I could agree.

But the Republican Stepford Wives who still support Trump will probbly continue to do so.

A life of wealth and privilege awaits any woman who can nod and grin and keep silent when the menfolk are speaking. They're not going to give that up.

[lagomorph777]

25. "A life of wealth and privilege awaits any woman who can nod and grin" - I don't think so

Most of the MAGAt men in that shallow gene pool are in no way able to offer "a life of wealth and privilege." More like a life of miserable oppression and poverty.

[Aristus]

37. True.

"Hush up, woman, and let men talk" no doubt crosses economic barriers. But the level of obedience is likely the same.

[Blue_true]

29. I was stunned to see that more White women supported Kavanaugh after the Dr. Ford hearing.

NO other group did that, every single one supported him less, with Independents showing the biggest decline in support.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

55. Can you back this claim up with any evidence ? Links ?

Otherwise, I refuse to believe it. I haven't seen this reported anywhere.

[Blue_true]

64. The poll was posted here on DU. I didn't expect to see that result as I looked

at details, but there is was. The post was made about 2 days ago. You can look it up or take my word, whatever.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

69. I must have missed the poll.

I'll admit, I have been staying away from the news and the computer. The confirmation hearings have been devastating to me. I have never been so nauseous, so consistently, in my life. I feel like we are losing everything.

Didn't mean to imply you were wrong, just could not believe it.

[Blue_true]

70. Yeah, things are depressing, but we can start changing that by voting strategically and often. nt

[Perseus]

66. I heard it on NPR

But the increase in support seems to be from "Evangelical White Women", correct me if I am wrong.

There was a good discussion on the "religious women" and the "guilt" that comes out automatically where they believe that if something bad happened to them it is because they deserved it, they are more submissive and base most of their decisions on religion.

I was driving and was not able to hear the full discussion because I had people in the car.

I can't find the transcript at NPR.

[SharonAnn]

57. He mocked and degraded a Gold Star family. That didn't stop people from voting for him.

[Aristus]

58. Yeah. I was stunned into disbelief that so many rah-rah 'Uhmerikkka, Fuck Yeah!' professional

patriots voted for him after that.

But then, patriotism among the Trumpanzees has always been a mile wide and an inch deep...

[TheCowsCameHome]

4. Any apology from Trump would be worthless -

I want revenge, and I want it now.

I hope he takes the big one live at a rally and the assembled goobers laugh at him.

[dlk]

5. It's Sadistic and Vicious

This is what misogyny looks like.

[Stuart G]

7. Yes, i wish I could k and r your post. "Sadistic and Vicious" ..."what misogyny looks like"

[Arkansas Granny]

14. You have that exactly right.

[Samspadesnark]

49. Particularly if

the reason for her inability to remember all of the details was because something was put into her beer. Bill Cosby is the classic example of how to get by with rape for decades on end: drug the women you rape before raping them. This is not an accusation against Kavanaugh because we don't know the facts. But even if he did not drug her, it is a classic trauma response to vividly remember the traumatic act in question while forgetting much of the rest of the scene. Every psychology reference book tells us this.

[atreides1]

6. Not in Mississippi!!!

Or so it would seem, from all of the cheering, especially from the women!!!!

[Blue_true]

30. They are deeply Christian, don't you know. nt

[Buckeye_Democrat]

8. I hope that you're right, but I'm not optimistic.

There are women in the world who are pleased when another woman gets stoned to death for being "impure" or whatever.

Right-wing authoritarianism is everywhere -- i.e., preserve traditional culture at all cost.

[Duppers]

43. +10

Misogyny is especially thick among southern, religious women. They bash any vocal woman speaking up for herself - "she doesn't know her place" or "she's getting above her raising" or "who does she think she is." These 18th century attitudes die hard in the South. These women hated Hillary more than Obama.

[True Blue American]

63. They do not use

The,” Bless their heart for nothing!” Then begin to say bad things about them. Yes,old Religious women are the worst,peeping out the windows trying to see.

I am sure many have seen that kind.

[thucythucy]

11. Yeah, but think of all the rapists

and rapist wannabes who are now even more solid in their support for this orange buffoon.

I wish I could say I was being sarcastic....

[Tom Rinaldo]

12. Only if the right people are motivated to vote as a result

Not all of the people who view the world like Trumpers are reliable voters. Trump is counting on stoking male rage to increase his vote tally by turning the heat on it way up. Probably he is calculating that a mobilization of women voters was already mostly baked into the electoral equation and by doubling down he can shake out more male voters.

Those who believe in fighting all forms of gender injustice up to and including rape, women and men alike, must show up at the polls this November.

[Blue_true]

31. Exactly. nt

[Thrill]

13. Just like doing it to a handicapped person right?

His cult will still stand by him and defend him

[Sqee]

15. From what I saw, Susan Collins is squirming over this.

She's taking a huge hit over Kavenaugh, and Trump pulling this garbage could push her fully into the NO column on a vote.

Trump may end being the best cover for the potential holdout GOPers to vote no.

[gopiscrap]

68. welcome to DU

[riversedge]

16. ' Some just won't vote in November.' hoping this is so--lots of the hard deploribles!

[elmac]

17. It only makes him more loved by his brain dead followers

He can do no wrong in their eyes. He is a life long con man as are all republicans.

[mac56]

19. Sharing.

"He has stepped over a line that only a truly stupid person would step."

[chowder66]

20. I agree but want to add...Adult or not, he's attacking the 15 year old child who was assaulted. nt

[TeapotInATempest]

21. Personally, I think he was trying to distract from yesterday's NYT story

about how he got his money.

It also seems to make him feel really good about himself to mock other people.

[oberliner]

22. The Access Hollywood tape was public before the election

[Stuart G]

23. Yes, it was. That was awful, but this is kind of different.

That was like a private conversation that became public......

This is a public speech that was prepared and planned for. A planned put down of a victim of sexual assault.

[oberliner]

24. Good point

Though I would note that the women in the crowd that were visible seemed to cheer his remarks. Granted, that is his hard-core base. Hopefully some prominent Republicans (other than the Jeff Flake types) will condemn Trump for those comments, though going from recent history, I very much doubt it.

[Blue_true]

34. Flake condemned the comments last night, as did Collins. Crickets from Murkowski.

I was really disappointed by all the socalled Christian women that I saw behind Trump cheering their asses off as he assaulted a 15 year old girl a second time. Yes, Dr. Ford recounted the assault, but it happened to a frightened 15 year old girl. How Christian of the MAGATS to cheer evil. They think that they are headed for what they call heaven, well, that is open to a lot of doubt.

[certainot]

51. but that doesn't matter because limbaugh and 1500 radio stations say ford is lying

so in their alternate reality, which the left does not challenge until after the fact, he's not out of line.

dems don't realize that as long as limbaugh gets to lie and attack ford and republican senate dissenters and make excuses for trump on 600 stations, with another 1000 reinforcing him, it doesnt matter what trump says or does.

the left is letting limbaugh do to ford what he did to anita hill and unless we fix that or massive protest, kavanaugh will get on.

[LisaL]

60. He mocks people publicly day in and day out.

Clearly it's working for him.

[inwiththenew]

26. He has yet to pay a price for any of his offensive comments

About insult Mexicans, McCain, women's looks, Gold Star parents, the disabled, bragging sexual assault, and the list goes on. Almost 3.5 years of insulting everyone and everything and never apologizing. Maybe this case will be different but I won't hold my breath.

[Stuart G]

33. I do believe this case will be different. Why?

People will discuss this in a different way..A planned speech. In front of a large crowd. Kind of like the epitome of self centeredness and stupidity. The last straw sort of speak. But I may be totally wrong. We will see.

[Blue_true]

36. I don't think it will be any different.

Trump did as grotesque things before and his MAGATS and other Americans rewarded that by making him President. I just don't think that he can say something vile enough that a White Surburban woman that has some doubts about his character won't vote republican when she is filling in the bubbles on her ballot. Wish that I could be more optimistic but I can't.

[hostalover]

40. I wish I didn't completely agree with your post.

[Grins]

41. Agree. The Reich will forget this by Wednesday.

And, as someone often says, "Sad."

[budkin]

27. Might have actually just put the nail in Kavanaugh

Seriously.

[Blue_true]

28. Trump has no core values. He sees it as opportunity.

The female Senator that he was campaigning for would denounce him if she was worth a shit as a person.

[duforsure]

32. What's so sick is

All the people that support and cheer on his attacks of victims who've been sexually attacked . Who does that?Who are these people supporting a sexual predator who victimizes women , and verbally abuses them openly like he does. Don't these people realize he's a monster, along with this kavanaugh drunk and drugged up loser is who can't be honest , or keep himself under control . He's a total mess but trump needs him for protection for putin , himself , and all those in his administration and Congress that have been involved and are working for putin , and not this country now. trump has tried to rig this investigation so they can still pass him , but its backfirig very badly , and it all will come out and expose them all , and kavanaugh will be removed from it if they do vote him in, he lied and is corrupt, and a drunk and probably a drug user too.

[Rocky888]

35. He not only "mocked" Dr. Ford, he ATTACKED her.

[47of74]

39. "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."

Fuck face is about to learn what that means.

[jimmyzvoice]

42. Let's hope this will allow a few Republican Senators to vote NO on Kananaugh's confirmation!

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[Stonepounder]

45. Now if we can just get the Russians to not vote in Nov. the Dems might have a chance.

Don't forget that the so-called Administration has refused to spend a single penny to beef up election security or to investigate whether voting machines were hacked.

[sellitman]

44. The Ignorati will praise him for it.

His cult has no conscious.

[Martin Eden]

46. Trump is a Troll

The President of the United States of America exhibits the character of a vile internet troll, and his devoted followers applaud him for it.

Hillary was absolutely correct with her use of the word deplorable.

[Nitram]

47. I hope you're right, but this isn't the worst thing Trump has done, and they still make excuses

for him. They are already slut-shaming Ford in public.

[Mr.Bill]

52. Trump could chop the head off a live baby

and drink it's blood and the crowd would cheer. I wish I was exaggerating.

[Gore1FL]

53. The GOP went "Todd Akin" on a national level.

I just hope it has the same effect for Democrats nationally as it did for McCaskill in 2012.

[Garrett78]

54. He himself bragged about committing sexual assault and still got 62 million votes.

[quakerboy]

56. Based on what is it a mistake?

Its worked out for him every other time thus far.

[Garrett78]

61. Exactly. Trump has crossed every line there is.

[LisaL]

59. As opposed to what? Mocking a disabled person?

Trump can do no wrong.

[Scurrilous]

62. K&R

[Pepsidog]

65. Disgusting excuse for a human. Our president is a disgrace

[INdemo]

67. must not have been for Republican Voters according

to the Corporate Media they are gaining enthusiasm and new polling show Republicans show that
This is no different than 2016 when the Corporate media praised Trump and gave him all the free press
so the Corporate mafia is no different in this election.