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J_William_Ryan

(1,853 posts)
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 08:58 AM Oct 2018

The Judiciary is Lost; the Fight Now Moves to the Political Realm

Since Brown v. Board of Education and Hernandez v. Texas citizens disadvantaged by the fear, ignorance, bigotry, and racism of the ‘will of the majority’ have been able to seek relief in the Federal courts to have laws repugnant to the Constitution invalidated in recognition of the rights and protected liberties of those disadvantaged through force of law.

With the confirmation of Kavanaugh that era will come to an end; the right to marry, the right to vote, the right to privacy, and the right to due process of the law are now all in jeopardy, the consequence of a militant social conservative Supreme Court whose majority comprised of rightist ideologues will allow the states to ignore the rights of the people and codify that fear, ignorance, bigotry, and racism.

Now that the judicial process so compromised and corrupted we must move the fight from the courtroom to the ballot box, organize at the state and local level to put elected representatives in place who will acknowledge the rights and protected liberties of the people, and repeal laws and measures hostile to those rights.

This will not be easy to do; for 64 years we liberals have depended on the Constitution and its case law – and a judicial process that respected the Constitution and its case law – to strike down laws enacted by hateful, authoritarian conservatives seeking to compel women to give birth against their will or deny gay Americans their right to access marriage law.

And this will not happen quickly, it will likely take decades to accomplish; but there is no other recourse, we have no other choice but to work to restore our Constitutional Republic and the rule of law.

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The Judiciary is Lost; the Fight Now Moves to the Political Realm (Original Post) J_William_Ryan Oct 2018 OP
Nonsense...it is 5/4 Kennedy was not really on our side that often...two Republicans Demsrule86 Oct 2018 #1
+10000000 bronxiteforever Oct 2018 #2
Hubs is from the Bronx...and thanks! Demsrule86 Oct 2018 #14
Excellent. Me on Fordham Road, University Heights. Say hi! bronxiteforever Oct 2018 #15
Exactly Andy823 Oct 2018 #3
I am ready to kick some GOP ass...Cordray could win...it is neck and neck in Ohio Demsrule86 Oct 2018 #13
Spot on! I am confident that we will prevail Greybnk48 Oct 2018 #5
I think so too..and if you look at other courts...times change and the court changes too. Demsrule86 Oct 2018 #11
Thanks, Demsrule, for good sense plainly spoken. Hortensis Oct 2018 #7
Thank you for your optimism...I know it is a dark day when the other major Demsrule86 Oct 2018 #10
Supreme Court with 8, 7, 6... justices? Merry Sunshine Oct 2018 #8
I can imagine it...and it will happen I think, Demsrule86 Oct 2018 #9
How best to marginalize the supreme court Buckeyeblue Oct 2018 #4
Thank you for your post of wise words. c-rational Oct 2018 #6
yes thank you bdamomma Oct 2018 #12

Demsrule86

(69,487 posts)
1. Nonsense...it is 5/4 Kennedy was not really on our side that often...two Republicans
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:03 AM
Oct 2018

have been replaced...getting the Senate in 20 is imperative in order to fight for the courts. There will never be another nominee approved without a majority in the Senate as well as the presidency.

Andy823

(11,502 posts)
3. Exactly
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:15 AM
Oct 2018

We need to ignore the doom and gloom crowd and concentrate on kicking every republican we can out of office next month, period!

Demsrule86

(69,487 posts)
13. I am ready to kick some GOP ass...Cordray could win...it is neck and neck in Ohio
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:08 PM
Oct 2018

where Trump won by double digits.

Greybnk48

(10,250 posts)
5. Spot on! I am confident that we will prevail
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:37 AM
Oct 2018

in the next 5 years as far as the Supreme Court is concerned.

Demsrule86

(69,487 posts)
11. I think so too..and if you look at other courts...times change and the court changes too.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:06 PM
Oct 2018

You can't have any legitimacy if you have a court that goes against the will of the people long term. The GOP is desperate to hold power, but I honestly don't think this will work.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Thanks, Demsrule, for good sense plainly spoken.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 12:16 PM
Oct 2018

And the political battle of course continues. If the midterms are not stolen, we'll be in a much better position federally and in many state governments.

Demsrule86

(69,487 posts)
10. Thank you for your optimism...I know it is a dark day when the other major
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:04 PM
Oct 2018

party puts up a likely rapist to the highest court in the land...but in the end I still believe we will prevail.

 

Merry Sunshine

(12 posts)
8. Supreme Court with 8, 7, 6... justices?
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 12:29 PM
Oct 2018

You bring up an interesting point about either party needing the presidency and a senate majority. Can you imagine the Supreme Court going from nine justices to eight, to seven...

Buckeyeblue

(5,548 posts)
4. How best to marginalize the supreme court
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:34 AM
Oct 2018

I don't have an answer for this. Should we let insane state laws stay on the books for now? Keep SC challenges to a bare minimum. I think the priorities become this year's mid-terms, then 2020. We have to win. And we have to win at the state level. Winning at the state level keeps the crazy state laws that we challenge down to a minimum of crazy faux-religious states that may go so far they energize people to either vote for change or move.

Thomas is in his 70's. Alito is in his late 60's.

Of course Breyer and Ginsburg are in their 80's.

I don't wish I'll health on anyone. But I think it's important to not give up. The next president could, over an 8 year period, have 4 opportunities to appoint justices.

When he was in his 80's the poet Robert Frost was asked what he had learned about life. He said all he had learned could be stated in three words: It goes on.

And so shall we go on. Things will improve as long as we keep trying.


bdamomma

(64,573 posts)
12. yes thank you
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:08 PM
Oct 2018

for your post. Can I ask something are our state/local governments better than these assholes. Isn't this where it all begins with our states??

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