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A timely reminder from Stephen King (Original Post) kpete Oct 2018 OP
As did some Democrats, as well. MineralMan Oct 2018 #1
Hear, hear! SkipG Oct 2018 #12
Yep. A lot of Democrats. I have the list saved somewhere. Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #34
And Al asked for a hearing only Wellstone ruled Oct 2018 #2
True. They didn't even CALL anyone about it or ask for affidavits. Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #35
Collins is toast. roamer65 Oct 2018 #3
For the sake of the nation, I hope that the Republican Party is toast. It should be destroyed. olegramps Oct 2018 #7
olegramps marieo1 Oct 2018 #9
I hear ya. Grokenstein Oct 2018 #16
We are at WAR. Liberalagogo Oct 2018 #18
Yes YessirAtsaFact Oct 2018 #24
We also need to stop being purists Liberalagogo Oct 2018 #27
I love the way you think FakeNoose Oct 2018 #28
The Republican party has already been destroyed. SergeStorms Oct 2018 #30
+1 MarvinGardens Oct 2018 #33
They deserve the fate as Hitler and Mussolini before the destroy the nation. olegramps Oct 2018 #42
She will before long announce she is not running for re-election. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2018 #20
Nah, she's not zentrum Oct 2018 #22
Never forget dalton99a Oct 2018 #4
K & R SunSeeker Oct 2018 #5
k&r Demovictory9 Oct 2018 #6
K&R, damn it. Paladin Oct 2018 #8
K & R Julian Englis Oct 2018 #10
Typical hypocrite Pepsidog Oct 2018 #11
Al was Great Voices Of Reason Oct 2018 #13
If by "treated unfairly" you mean "swiftboated"... dchill Oct 2018 #14
It was a great loss. hostalover Oct 2018 #25
welcome to DU bdamomma Oct 2018 #36
Yes she did benld74 Oct 2018 #15
And I got alerted on here Liberalagogo Oct 2018 #17
when kavanough got credibly accused of much worse AlexSFCA Oct 2018 #19
She is only doing what good fascists are expected to do. She says screw justice this is war. olegramps Oct 2018 #43
K&R UTUSN Oct 2018 #21
We Democrats keep acting as if we expect decent behavior from the repugnant goons-we should not YessirAtsaFact Oct 2018 #23
So did Gillibrand and others... For nothing. IluvPitties Oct 2018 #26
That was different. JohnnyRingo Oct 2018 #29
I want Al Franken back! Nitram Oct 2018 #31
+1 stopwastingmymoney Oct 2018 #32
IMO, what did it for Franken was the photos garybeck Oct 2018 #37
I don't think so notinkansas Oct 2018 #38
And that's how dictatorship takes over a country. C Moon Oct 2018 #39
Collins is just another Russian Repug Rapists supporter. lark Oct 2018 #40
Al Franken seems to be so well liked here on DU thinkingagain Oct 2018 #41
That's because she is a good little Republican tool. McCamy Taylor Oct 2018 #44
Two things... SpankMe Oct 2018 #45

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
34. Yep. A lot of Democrats. I have the list saved somewhere.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:39 PM
Oct 2018

Almost all the Democratic Senators. 32, I think? Including Schumer.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
35. True. They didn't even CALL anyone about it or ask for affidavits.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:41 PM
Oct 2018

Nothing. And several were anonymous...names unknown to the Democratic Senators.

And none of the stories I heard amounted to sexual harassment, that I could see.

It was a railroad. How hurt he must have been. When you become too popular, the ones who wanted to be popular go after you.

Grokenstein

(5,725 posts)
16. I hear ya.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 04:41 PM
Oct 2018

...in fact, I KEEP hearing that.
But then election time comes around and then I start hearing "both sides bad" and "just walk away" and "muh clean conscience" and here we are.

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
24. Yes
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 05:14 PM
Oct 2018

Today's repugnant goon politician is going to act in bad faith, use smear tactics and distortions as a matter of course.

We really shouldn't expect anything else.

Bottom line is that that the current republican party can't be trusted.

 

Liberalagogo

(1,770 posts)
27. We also need to stop being purists
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 05:32 PM
Oct 2018

and be willing to get our hands dirty. If the worst thing that comes out of this is that we have to be hypocrites, we should just consider ourselves lucky.
This is going to get more ugly than we ever thought possible.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
30. The Republican party has already been destroyed.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 06:09 PM
Oct 2018

It's the Party of Trump now, and you know that piece of shit and his party are going down, HARD!

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
22. Nah, she's not
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 05:06 PM
Oct 2018

....planning to run again. Many say this was all an audition to be on the board of big pundit-think tank. They say the multi-million dollar "arrangement was probably made at the Kennubunkport compound where she visited the Bush's several weeks ago.

Kavenaugh is very important to the Repug economic agenda and will ensconce it in stone.

 

Voices Of Reason

(16 posts)
13. Al was Great
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 04:11 PM
Oct 2018

Al Franken should have waited and rode the storm out. He was a great part of Congress and I think he was treated unfairly.

bdamomma

(63,878 posts)
36. welcome to DU
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:42 PM
Oct 2018

Senator Franken was never given the chance to be questioned either correct? His ousting was not right.

 

Liberalagogo

(1,770 posts)
17. And I got alerted on here
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 04:53 PM
Oct 2018

because I pointed out that this certain poster who was defending the ousting of Franken was on a fucking high horse and need to STFU.

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
19. when kavanough got credibly accused of much worse
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 04:57 PM
Oct 2018

she praised him in 45 min speech and strongly endorsed him for SC court as a model justice for generation to come. She described him as possibly the of the best justices to be. I despise this woman so much now, what a waste of life to throw it all away and irreversibly damage your karma. I predict she’ll spend her retirement in regret realizing her grandkids will be paying for what she did singlehandedly. She is a heartless woman now but she may wake up once she is out of politics.

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
23. We Democrats keep acting as if we expect decent behavior from the repugnant goons-we should not
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 05:09 PM
Oct 2018

The repugnant goon part has adopted a scorched earth policy dating back for decades.

It is import to remember Trump isn't some aberration of republican philosophy, he is just the next logical step in dishonest, scorched earth politics. Fox Noise and hate radio paved the way for Trump to spread conspiracy theories. Don the Con just took the lying to another level.

Expecting today's repug party to act in good faith is a mistake. Nothing matters to them except winning.

Susan Collins will of course have different standards of behavior for Democrats and repugnant goon politicians - and judges.

Mitch Mcturtle will of course consider delaying Obama's SCOTUS pick for a year nothing and scream bloody murder at the idea of slowing down the nomination of Sir BoofsALot.

In retrospect, expecting anything other than a whitewash regarding the supplemental investigation of barfing Brett was really naive. They weren't going to follow up on the allegations of Debra Ramirez because the allegations were true and the goons didn't want any information to derail the confirmation, so they made sure that the FBI didn't ask for corroboration.

Sexual assault allegations are also no big deal to repugnant politicians and to their base if you have an R by your name.

Perjury, smurgery, so what? It's okay for Kav to lie about his drinking under oath, but it was an impeachable offense for Bill Clinton to lie about a consensual affair.

Bottom line is that we should expect that they are going to behave like this. We should quit letting any expectations of decency from these thugs cause us disappointment or cause us to drop our guard. They are lying, opportunistic thugs and that is going to be their MO at every turn.

We should attack the lies and corruption every day without repeating the right wing talking points.

Some democratic politician should get in front of a camera every morning and give the daily Trump lie briefing for the prior day, saying something like "Trump lied 6 times yesterday, twice about immigration, three times about the economy and once about the Mueller investigation." These statements should be matter of fact in tone, maybe prefaced with a statement that Trump has told X number of verifiable lies so far in his presidency, making it clear that Trump lying 6 times is a day is nothing unusual. It is not acceptable behavior, but at this point it is expected, because Trump is a serial liar.

Further explanation would be fact checks avoiding the RW rhetoric, something like, the Trump described a group of non-white immigrants as criminals, when historically, these people commit fewer crimes than citizens born in the USA. He claimed that immigrants that were seeking asylum had entered the country illegally, when they had not.


notinkansas

(1,096 posts)
38. I don't think so
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 01:07 AM
Oct 2018

because those who voted to confirm him don't really care about anything other than getting this guy on the court at any cost.

lark

(23,115 posts)
40. Collins is just another Russian Repug Rapists supporter.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 09:35 AM
Oct 2018

Women mean nothing to her compared to her subservience to the male oligarch establishment. She sickens me, the worst of what's wrong with women in ths country. I loathe and disdain her lying ass and can't wait for karma to come her way and hope i get to know about it.

thinkingagain

(906 posts)
41. Al Franken seems to be so well liked here on DU
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 10:19 AM
Oct 2018

That I think if he just would run again anywhere he’d win. It would be like a super sweet thing for example if he’d move to Maine and ran against Collins for example.

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
45. Two things...
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 01:39 PM
Oct 2018

1. Republicans and their defenders and enablers will say that there was an actual photo of Franken engaging in the undignified pose (the fake breast reach), and that Franken admitted to the things he was accused of. But, there's no evidence or admission by Kavanaugh of his "alleged" act. So, as far as they're concerned Kavanaugh is clean and Franken is guilty. I think this is stupid, but it's the way conservatives think. Franken acted far more honorably than Kavanaugh did.

2. As a part of the new "we're-gonna-start-acting-like-assholes-and-winning" strategy that we (Democrats) should be engaging in, Franken should immediately say it was a mistake to resign and run for senate again. We need him back in the senate.

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