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By Arthur Spitzer, Legal Co-Director, ACLU of D.C. OCTOBER 9, 2018 | 6:45 PM
Now, the Trump administration proposes to dramatically limit the right to demonstrate near the White House and on the National Mall, including in ways that would violate court orders that have stood for decades. The proposal would close 80 percent of the White House sidewalk, put new limits on spontaneous demonstrations, and open the door to charging fees for protesting.
Fee requirements could make mass protests like Martin Luther King Jr.s historic 1963 March on Washington and its I have a dream speech too expensive to happen.
The public has until October 15 to comment on the plans, and on Monday, we submitted our formal written comment explaining why the planned changes are unconstitutional.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech/rights-protesters/trump-administration-seeks-stifle-protests-near-white-house-and
Solly Mack
(90,763 posts)summer_in_TX
(2,735 posts)Here's the link to the ACLU's page that allows us to comment on the National Park Service's proposal to limit protests near the White House and the National Mall, and maybe charge fees for groups planning to protest.
Solly Mack
(90,763 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)His little ego so dainty & delicate that he cannot bear the reality of democracy, or even reality itself. He is so much like America's enemy, and his BFF, Pooty Poot. Sad.
* aka republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,181 posts)If Trump doesn't believe me, he can ask Paul Manafort.*
*Collect calls only.
TwistOneUp
(1,020 posts)badhair77
(4,217 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Trump and the GOP will outlaw protest and dissent against his Russian backed regime and then claim Americans support his unconstitutional thugocracy.
I can see the SCOTUS case already.
Oh wait...........
badhair77
(4,217 posts)Delusional.
bdamomma
(63,845 posts)taking his revenge on the female gender.
Inserting this:
https://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/blog/how-the-trump-administration-has-threatened-womens-health-in-just-a-few-months
CharleyDog
(757 posts)That's why journalists, environmentalists, women must be murdered. If not murder, then prison. Then population must be suppressed.
bdamomma
(63,845 posts)he again shows his disdain for democracy, such a wanna be dictator, he loves them dictators doesn't he. He did comment that during his visit to North Korea, he wanted the recognition from the people to stand up straight when he came by.
OhNo-Really
(3,985 posts)oh and constitutional rights as well and we out number park service
rainy
(6,091 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,188 posts).
They even interviewed that asshole, Dick Armey, and even he supported protesting.
It dealt with Taxes, and the episode itself was called "Taxes!" and look a Libertarian view of them.
It was surprising how many people signed a fake petition to ban protests around Washington DC.
The following is NSFW:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6ph67u
Man, the Republicans have really swung to the side of Russia!
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BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)Therefore no dissent.
iluvtennis
(19,852 posts)calimary
(81,222 posts)All he saw was the White House became a larger version of the Trump Organization.
So we're seeing the same dishonesty, sneaky shit, bullying, intimidating, corner-cutting, smoke screening, gaslighting, lies, denials, distractions, distortions, and manipulations that trump used when he ran his little "family business" in midtown Manhattan. When he was accustomed to nobody looking over his shoulder or questioning or complaining or challenging. That's what he's known all his life. The way his dad did it and the way Roy Cohn advised him to up the ante on it. Granted, he's having some trouble adjusting to how government works, so he's trying to disembowel the government to make it work the way he's used to having it work in the private sector. Where it was HIS company. And he was KING of that company - that little private fiefdom where every way was Donald's way, and Donald was the law and Donald was god and everybody fawned and worshipped and obeyed without no questions asked.
This is how he ran things in the private sector in New York City and beyond. And I suspect he presumed it'd just be the same kind of thing in which he could be in total control because he owned it and it was nobody's business what he did or what he was up to, or with whom. Only just a whole lot bigger. All it meant to him is that his little private mercenary criminal empire expanded to engulf the whole country - and beyond. His mistake was that this is the federal government and as such, it's EVERYBODY'S business. He's not accustomed to having to answer to anybody or be transparent about anything. Just the continued concealment of his tax returns should be enough proof.
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)long before he ran in 2016. He was always a piece of shit con man who owed hard working people money on his jobs. But they never went after him the way they should have. He earned societies scorn but that seems to mean very little, instead they lifted up his entire phony persona. It still angers me and often.
LuvNewcastle
(16,844 posts)He's had media eating out of his hand every time he pulls some stupid stunt. Who was it that ever thought that asshole was newsworthy? I've never seen him do anything in his entire life that was worth all that attention! Just knowing the right people can get a person very far. Too far, in this case.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,331 posts)Ryan, McCONnell and the rest of the Greedy Old Perverts just kiss TrumPutin's ass.
SCantiGOP
(13,869 posts)Lets see how they arrest 400,000 people.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Fla Dem
(23,656 posts)The fact we look to both MacArthur and Eisenhower as heros and yet they treated their fellow soldiers like this. It's amazing this didn't set off a nationwide insurrection. Also amazed at how well this was coordinated before the days of social media.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)But kids will never be taught this in school, rest assured of that.
PufPuf23
(8,770 posts)One would think the GOP would learn from history but the same dark forces of the 30s (and earlier) exist and even reign into the present.
John Fante
(3,479 posts)They want to emulate it.
CharleyDog
(757 posts)that have been there daily since his wimpy performance with big Daddy Putin.
Too bad, Dumpy. RESIST!!!
calimary
(81,222 posts)Of course he doesn't like it. If he could exert the full power he thinks he has, he'd probably try to have us all arrested.
Raven123
(4,830 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Brilliant move, Trump.
dembotoz
(16,802 posts)ZZenith
(4,121 posts)dembotoz
(16,802 posts)N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,721 posts)bluestarone
(16,926 posts)Let's do it MORE!!!!!!!!
bdamomma
(63,845 posts)we hit a nerve, the filthy repigs especially McConnell was scared.
SWBTATTReg
(22,114 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,284 posts)Better angle would be for all protesters to carry guns and claim they are violating our 2nd amendment rights.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,589 posts)58Sunliner
(4,386 posts)Dept of Interior. Comments close October 15th, this coming Monday. Please comment.
-Link to rule changes.
https://www.nps.gov/nama/learn/news/upload/TPM-Proposed-Rule-Regs-Draft-08-06-18.pdf
-Link to comment.
https://www.regulations.gov/comment?D=NPS-2018-0007-0001
Link to ACLU petition-
https://action.aclu.org/petition/dc-restrict-demonstration-rights?redirect=DC-protest-plan&ms_aff=DC&initms_aff=DC&ms=181010_freespeech_DCprotests_BLOG&initms=181010_freespeech_DCprotests_BLOG&ms_chan=web&initms_chan=web
pangaia
(24,324 posts)do more than vote..
CAMPAIGN..
door to door
phone bank
post cards
letters
emails
stand on a corner
bumper stickers
anything
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Republicans gerrymander the hell out of every state they control
Republicans block Obama's pick for SCOTUS so Shitler can pack the court with radical GOP rubber stamps
Republicans get rid of the voting rights act and immediately start mass purges of democratic voters, concentrating on PoC
SCOTUS rules dark money equals free speech so billionaires can freely buy the government they want and make it their willing instrument
Texas police at the urging of a local GOP operative, threaten a citizen with arrest for displaying an anti-GOP lawn sign on his private property.
And now BLOTUS moves to make protest illegal or so expensive no mass protest will happen, as in the 2017 Women's March at the beginning of Orange Hitlers reign or MLK's Poor People's March on Washington in 68.
NTM the kidnapping of children at the border and incarcerating them in Trump's gulag.
Is it abundantly clear now that the GOP and Trump/Putin have performed a fascist coup in this nation???
NoMoreRepugs
(9,417 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)I keep asking folks here to donate.
onethatcares
(16,167 posts)for "We the People" to show up on the National Mall en masse. We need to set a date prior to the mid terms or after?
One day, one purpose. Of course it would be spontaneous.
bdamomma
(63,845 posts)and we need to do it again, We can bully them too. We have the right too.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,425 posts)Now, the Trump administration proposes to dramatically limit the right to demonstrate near the White House and on the National Mall, including in ways that would violate court orders that have stood for decades. The proposal would close 80 percent of the White House sidewalk, put new limits on spontaneous demonstrations, and open the door to charging fees for protesting.
DRAFT Proposed Rule August 7, 2018
Official Proposed Rule will publish in the Federal Register, search "RIN 1024-AE45"
Go to Regulations.gov:
This Proposed Rule document was issued by the National Park Service (NPS)
For related information, Open Docket Folder
Action
Proposed rule.
Summary
The National Park Service proposes to revise special regulations related to demonstrations and special events at certain national park units in the National Capital Region. The proposed changes would modify regulations explaining how the NPS processes permit applications for demonstrations and special events. The rule would also identify locations where activities are allowed, not allowed, or allowed but subject to restrictions.
Dates
Comments must be received by October 15, 2018.
Addresses
You may submit comments, identified by the Regulation Identifier Number (RIN) 1024-AE45 by any of the following methods:
Electronically: Federal eRulemaking portal: http://www.regulations.gov. Follow the instructions for submitting comments.
Hardcopy: Mail or hand deliver to National Park Service, National Mall and Memorial Parks, 900 Ohio Drive SW, Washington, DC 20024, Attn: Brian Joyner.
Instructions: All comments received must include the agency name (National Park Service) and RIN (1024-AE45) for this rulemaking. Comments will not be accepted by fax, email, or in any way other than those specified above. Comments received will be posted without change to http://www.regulations.gov, including any personal information provided. Before including your address, phone number, email address, or other personal identifying information in your comment, you should be aware that your entire comment including your personal identifying information may be made publicly available at any time. While you can ask us in your comment to withhold your personal identifying information, we cannot guarantee that we will be able to do so. To view comments received through the Federal eRulemaking portal, go to http://www.regulations.gov and enter 1024-AE45 in the search box.
For Further Information Contact
Brian D. Joyner, Chief of Staff, National Park Service, National Mall and Memorial Parks, (202) 245-4468, NAMA_Superintendent@nps.gov.
....
Proposed Rule
The NPS proposes to revise the regulations applicable to demonstrations and special events that are held within the National Mall and Memorial Parks and President's Park. The NPS intends these revisions to (i) modify regulations explaining how the NPS processes permit applications to conduct activities in these areas; and (ii) better identify locations where activities are allowed, not allowed, or allowed but subject to restrictions. The NPS intends these changes to provide greater clarity to the public about how and where demonstrations and special events may be conducted in a manner that protects and preserves the cultural and historic integrity of these areas.
The supplementary information contained below will explain the proposed changes to existing regulations in section 7.96 of Title 36, Code of Federal Regulations (36 CFR 7.96). These regulations govern activities within the National Mall and Memorial Parks, President's Park, and other administrative units subject to section 7.96. These other unitssuch as portions of the Chesapeake and Ohio Canal National Historical Park, National Capital Parks-East, George Washington Memorial Parkway, and Rock Creek Parkare located nearby the National Mall and Memorial Parks and President's Park. The NPS encounters management issues related to demonstrations and special events in these locations that are similar to those encountered in the National Mall and Memorial Parks and President's Park. In some cases, a single event such as a foot race will cross through several of these units. The administrative benefit of having a uniform set of regulations and permit processes for units in close proximity to one another supports applying the proposed changes in this rule to all of the units that are subject to section 7.96. This will allow the NPS to better manage these events and provide service to the public. The applicability of section 7.96 to the National Mall and Memorial Parks, President's Park, and these other units is discussed in more detail below.
A summary of the proposed changes is contained in the following table, along with a citation of the regulation that would be changed. The proposed changes are discussed below in the order they appear in the table below. In addition to the changes listed below, the proposed rule would reorganize several paragraphs in section 7.96 without changing any of the text.
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debsy
(530 posts)and you beat me to it.
Recap:
1) go to www.regulations.gov
2) enter 1024-AE45 in the search box
3) click the "Comment Now" button
4) type in your comment and follow the "Continue" button to the last page where you will submit your comment.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,425 posts)Thanks.
debsy
(530 posts)I saw this post and it drove me to the site
nolabear
(41,960 posts)Theyve been there for how many months now? And theyre not getting nearly the attention they deserve.
CharleyDog
(757 posts)Gothmog
(145,168 posts)Freethinker65
(10,015 posts)SergeStorms
(19,199 posts)how Kavanaugh would vote. "Yes sir Mr. President, sir".
greatauntoftriplets
(175,733 posts)CharleyDog
(757 posts)Raven123
(4,830 posts)Can't deny anyone a gun, but they can hide from the results of their own doing.
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)To take a page from Nikki Haley's comments yesterday, it's OUR protest and we'll put it where we want to!
Luciferous
(6,078 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,417 posts)Go to the link and type a short statement, it takes a minute or two. You'll feel better for having done it.
Gothmog
(145,168 posts)Trump likes the First Amendment only when it helps him https://politicalwire.com/2018/10/10/trump-says-exploiting-hacked-emails-is-free-speech/
Trump lawyers argued that the First Amendment protects the campaigns right to disclose informationeven stolen informationso long as (1) the speaker did not participate in the theft and (2) the information deals with matters of public concern.
malthaussen
(17,193 posts)Really, that is the most Trump thing ever -- making people pay money to hate him.
-- Mal
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Voter registration
The laws often included a grandfather clause, which allowed any adult male whose father or grandfather had voted in a specific year prior to the abolition of slavery to vote without paying the tax. These laws, along with unfairly implemented literacy tests and extra-legal intimidation, achieved the desired effect of disenfranchising African-American and Native American voters, as well as poor whites.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poll_taxes_in_the_United_States
onecaliberal
(32,849 posts)bitterross
(4,066 posts)Things like this are why Kavanaugh was their man. Erode the liberties little by little.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)we managed to miss this un-American outrage, so I really appreciate your posting it here.
Thank you, Workinclasszero.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)It's mind boggling how Trump and the GOP wipe their fat ***** with the Constitution everyday and the media never raises an alarm.
If it was a democrat, impeachment trial would start next week for this and all the other crimes Trump has committed in the two years of his GOP dictatorship!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)it'd get covered. We all get the critical importance of the press, but they're too involved and a lot of this stuff gets buried so that the "thoughtful people" can have long, and now long-redundant, conversations about Trump's latest rant about them.
Grasswire2
(13,569 posts)Pardon my screaming.
bdamomma
(63,845 posts)we will push back harder, that bullying tactic must end. I just wish he would have a medical emergency or something, junk food kick back.
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,911 posts)ancianita
(36,044 posts)spanone
(135,829 posts)ck4829
(35,069 posts)Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)And will be doing like putin did by setting up kangaroo courts by appointing loyalist only judges to use to criminalize these groups and others with to protect himself from these people opposing him and his policies. He's constantly abusing his powers to use and weaponize them against all he dislikes because they expose his policies and him. Criminal actions against others coming soon from putin's puppet. that's why he is trying to control the DOJ , and make it the DOTJ instead for only his use, and his proposed crimes he'll make up against them to use , again just like putin has doe many other times in russian and other countries he's installed his candidates in , or like he did for trump. McConnell has been helping him get these judges into place for him at record speeds.