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LBM20

(1,580 posts)
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 05:30 PM Oct 2018

Avenatti is awesome! It is about damn time!

Last edited Sun Oct 14, 2018, 06:15 AM - Edit history (3)

I am an active lifelong Dem, and like Avenatti and SO many others I have wanted the party to get back to being the tough fighters we used to be under FDR, Truman, and JFK.

You can't play nicey-nice and sing campfire songs with Traitor Don and his Cult and today's viscious vomit-inducing GOP. ENOUGH!

Where the hell has that that gotten us? Tell me. The R's control all levels and branches of the government across the country. Gee, how's that working out?

It is a FAILURE! We didn't ask for this fight, but if I have anything to say about, we are damn well going to win it.

I love that Avenatti doesn't take ANY shit from these GOP scumbags. Enough is enough!

Get on OFFENSE and STAY THERE! Be STRONG! Be CLEAR! Have some GUTS again!

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Avenatti is awesome! It is about damn time! (Original Post) LBM20 Oct 2018 OP
How about we all vote Democratic? Cary Oct 2018 #1
Why not vote Democratic AND kick the verbal crap out of Trump & his band of racist evil fuckwads? LBM20 Oct 2018 #3
We are supposed to do only one thing at a time? Autumn Oct 2018 #7
You owe me no explanation Cary Oct 2018 #27
I'll bet michael cohen doesn't think it's blah-blah.... getagrip_already Oct 2018 #46
You serm to think I am criticizing Avenatti Cary Oct 2018 #90
What Are You Talking About? ProfessorGAC Oct 2018 #112
Why would you emulate them? Cary Oct 2018 #136
agree he isn't ready to be potus..... getagrip_already Oct 2018 #129
The only "blah blah blah" is the weakness and wimpy drivel we've been dealing with for TOO long. LBM20 Oct 2018 #59
If.you think you can do better, run for office. Cary Oct 2018 #91
Damn right! Kick this RiverStone Oct 2018 #93
That assumes elections are fair. Laurian Oct 2018 #5
Come out in big numbers. VOTE. SEIZE POWER. And KEEP POWER! And SMASH the GOP! LBM20 Oct 2018 #10
elections have never been fair, though some... getagrip_already Oct 2018 #47
Agreed. But the Dems zentrum Oct 2018 #120
Agree! ananda Oct 2018 #2
We're not wrong they win because they cheat.If they didn't, dems woild hold most of congress onit2day Oct 2018 #73
bttw...we will lose the planet unless we vote democratic. Last chance to tackle climate change onit2day Oct 2018 #76
He's a hell of a voice out there for us. He doesn't take any shit that's for sure. Autumn Oct 2018 #4
And GOOD! It is about fucking time! LBM20 Oct 2018 #6
Agree!!! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2018 #8
Avenatti attacked the Democratic party "establishment", Progressive dog Oct 2018 #9
He strongly supports Dems. He hates Trump. He is wants Dems to FIGHT. So GOOD! LBM20 Oct 2018 #11
I'm with you... Avenatti is leading by example how to fight fire with fire. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #89
Avenatti is not a normal political figure Progressive dog Oct 2018 #131
Absolutely! thegoose Oct 2018 #142
Av may be loud and aggressive, but he isn't crass. LakeArenal Oct 2018 #13
He is TOUGH. Not vile. But TOUGH. Very STRONG. And that is what we need. LBM20 Oct 2018 #14
Self-promoter SCantiGOP Oct 2018 #21
No, a good Dem and TOUGH FIGHTER FOR A DAMNED REFRESHING CHANGE! LBM20 Oct 2018 #22
We both have our opinions SCantiGOP Oct 2018 #23
Maybe you should try some CAPITAL letters. Enough of the pathetic weakness! LBM20 Oct 2018 #51
Nah, instead I will just use SCantiGOP Oct 2018 #65
Post removed Post removed Oct 2018 #82
Weakness in politics is political DEATH. Gee, the WEAKNESS is working out so great isn't it? LBM20 Oct 2018 #104
This whole thread seems to be an excuse for you to trash the Democratic party. Qutzupalotl Oct 2018 #125
Yes, that is your opinion. Not echoed much on this thread, however. brush Oct 2018 #68
Please check your facts, I believe you're incorrect FakeNoose Oct 2018 #20
This never happened. Why would you say it did? Squinch Oct 2018 #32
It hasn't happened yet, but give him time Progressive dog Oct 2018 #135
FFS, you can predict the future? nt USALiberal Oct 2018 #137
. Squinch Oct 2018 #147
Really? getagrip_already Oct 2018 #48
Avenatti reminds me of Trump Progressive dog Oct 2018 #133
yes! Just look at this - same language robbedvoter Oct 2018 #144
BS. He responded to a Solis Doyle commentary. He didn't attack... brush Oct 2018 #64
Avenatti does bash the "Democratic Establishment" JonLP24 Oct 2018 #95
That's an attack to you? brush Oct 2018 #97
In the context yes JonLP24 Oct 2018 #98
Let me get this straight. Some Democrats critiized him so he responded... brush Oct 2018 #99
I never said I disagreed with him JonLP24 Oct 2018 #101
We have got to stop bringing the weak sauce. colorado_ufo Oct 2018 #12
God damned right. WEAKNESS is FAILURE. Bill Clinton said, "Always be STRONG!" LBM20 Oct 2018 #19
Takes a spark to light a fire. safeinOhio Oct 2018 #15
A self-aggrandizing blowhard? NO THANKS! Roland99 Oct 2018 #16
He is a TOUGH FIGHTER and we are sick to death of FAILED WEAKNESS! LBM20 Oct 2018 #17
Sounds like you're against the Democrats. Roland99 Oct 2018 #42
Oh please and for fuck sake! I am against WEAKNESS. If you are for it, good luck. LBM20 Oct 2018 #49
ooo...big strawman argument. Bravo Roland99 Oct 2018 #61
You single-handedly raise the only strawman "Sound like you are against the Democrats" to be found Maru Kitteh Oct 2018 #74
Post removed Post removed Oct 2018 #88
Yeah, and wallowing in SPINELESS WEAKNESS has done the party so well hasn't it? My god. LBM20 Oct 2018 #106
Would rather have the "blowhard" than some WEAK FECKLESS JELLY SPINED WIMP! LBM20 Oct 2018 #18
Thank you. 7962 Oct 2018 #26
Totally agree. I want nothing to do with the guy. Trust Buster Oct 2018 #34
Sick to death of weakness, spinelessness, wimpiness, fecklessness. GO AVENATTI! LBM20 Oct 2018 #50
He is a pretender. His 15 minutes are waning. Trust Buster Oct 2018 #56
BULLSHIT! He has been fighting hard for decades. He has GUTS for a god damned CHANGE! LBM20 Oct 2018 #105
Decades ? LOL Trust Buster Oct 2018 #114
And he's been fired by his client.... jberryhill Mar 2019 #149
We're tired of the spineless, feckless leadership. Not rocket science... brush Oct 2018 #69
I guess you LOVE the Dem leaders who say nothing! LOL. nt USALiberal Oct 2018 #138
Agreed. Maybe some of Avenatti's toughness & confidence will rub off on our people. mtnsnake Oct 2018 #24
Avenatti is a hack. Out for himself. If you don't believe it, wait a year or so. 7962 Oct 2018 #25
He's fabulous. The challenge does not hurt us at all, and it throws a light on Jr's doughy Squinch Oct 2018 #30
+1000 Trust Buster Oct 2018 #35
I realize at least some of Rumps's lawyers are hacks shanny Oct 2018 #38
Bullshit! He has been right about everything he has predicted and is a brilliant FIGHTER! LBM20 Oct 2018 #107
No, he hasnt been right about everything. He's promised many things & not delivered. 7962 Oct 2018 #113
You prefer the Dem leaders who never say anything? Sounds like your type. nt USALiberal Oct 2018 #139
As far as I know. .. reACTIONary Oct 2018 #28
Not sure about Avenatti srobertss Oct 2018 #29
I'm disappointed to see him start grifting tho'. JNelson6563 Oct 2018 #31
He uses fine print on his website to deceive. Trust Buster Oct 2018 #37
Why is that wrong? Beto gets half, his pack gets half. brush Oct 2018 #78
He was still using Beto's name without permission to raise funds for his PAC jberryhill Oct 2018 #86
That's not much of a power player then, is it? JNelson6563 Oct 2018 #148
In my social circles more seem to regard him as a clown than anything else. I've heard him... Marengo Oct 2018 #33
Bingo, thank you. Trust Buster Oct 2018 #36
yeah bingo on the fux noos framing: that's exactly what they called him shanny Oct 2018 #41
Correction: That is what we have been calling Don the Con for 2 years. Trust Buster Oct 2018 #57
you've been calling Don the Con a "creepy porn lawyer" for 2 years? shanny Oct 2018 #60
He is not a lawyer but the creepy part applies to Don the Con. Trust Buster Oct 2018 #63
So your friends quote Republicans like Tucker Carlson? dem4decades Oct 2018 #40
He is a good Dem and a TOUGH FIGHTER for a fucking change. So good for him. LBM20 Oct 2018 #52
Come on. Stop spreading repug talking points. brush Oct 2018 #70
They must be Fox News watchers JonLP24 Oct 2018 #96
Oh my! RandiFan1290 Oct 2018 #121
Avenatti has been great at getting media attention NewJeffCT Oct 2018 #39
uh, neither could Christine Blasey Ford...nor Bart O'Kavanaugh for that matter. shanny Oct 2018 #43
I don't give a shit about "attention." I give a shit about having STRONG Dems for a fucking change. LBM20 Oct 2018 #54
United we stand, divided we fall. watoos Oct 2018 #44
What brings it on is some people pissing on him around here and I for am sick of WEAKNESS. LBM20 Oct 2018 #53
What bought it on is another thread on here attacking Avenatti. brush Oct 2018 #79
All I can say is, I'm glad he's on our side! Nt Heartstrings Oct 2018 #45
He's another bully huckster nini Oct 2018 #55
Oh for fuck sake! He's been slamming Trump bigtime. He's a model FIGHTER and GOOD! LBM20 Oct 2018 #58
FFS I know that.. he's also bashing Dems nini Oct 2018 #84
Hillary said the same thing a few days before he did. WhiteTara Oct 2018 #62
Sexism perhaps? oberliner Oct 2018 #66
Nah, couldn't be. This is the 21st century WhiteTara Oct 2018 #75
What the hell are you talking about? Avenatti's been hitting back against... brush Oct 2018 #72
I'm glad he's on our side. redstateblues Oct 2018 #67
Yes! Sugarcoated Oct 2018 #71
Yes. Social media is now part of the campaign battlefield. brush Oct 2018 #80
I meant TV but social media also Sugarcoated Oct 2018 #81
THIS. LIBERALS WON WORLD WAR II. WE DEFEAT NAZIS. THATS WHAT WE DO. (n/t) FreepFryer Oct 2018 #77
And today the R's control EVERYTHING because of past WEAK SHITTY campaigns. Time to FIGHT again!!! LBM20 Oct 2018 #108
Some of the Avenatti bashing The Wizard Oct 2018 #83
Yes.. I'm a Russian Troll. because I don't trust the latest party savior nini Oct 2018 #85
total ignore it is (NT) The Wizard Oct 2018 #87
Not necessarily a "savior" but an ALLY and a breath of fresh air who has GUTS! So GOOD for him! LBM20 Oct 2018 #111
Does this remind you of anyone? nini Oct 2018 #127
+1000 Trust Buster Oct 2018 #115
"Some of the Avenatti bashing sounds like Russian / GOP trolls." LenaBaby61 Oct 2018 #92
Spot on! Avenatti is so REFRESHING! A STRONG FIGHTER that we NEED for a damn CHANGE!!! LBM20 Oct 2018 #109
Maybe not Avenatti personally but certainly someone with that fire Jake Stern Oct 2018 #94
Post removed Post removed Oct 2018 #110
K and R Quixote1818 Oct 2018 #100
Avenatti is loud but unethical. Qutzupalotl Oct 2018 #102
Avenatti is a breath of fresh air and a tough FIGHTER and we need MORE MORE MORE!! LBM20 Oct 2018 #103
Wow, I couldn't help but think when I read your source article that Avenatti has an identical Trust Buster Oct 2018 #118
Oh BS. It's a load of hyped crap. Avenatti is a brilliant lawyer and Dem FIGHTER. And GOOD. LBM20 Oct 2018 #123
Wrong again. Qutzupalotl Oct 2018 #126
Sounds very familiar, doesn't it ? Trust Buster Oct 2018 #128
A seven month old story???? Nice try. nt USALiberal Oct 2018 #140
I agree! Democratic leadership plays too nicey nicey with the GOP leadership! UCmeNdc Oct 2018 #116
Yup. They get power and keep it. Dems need to regrow their GUTS. LBM20 Oct 2018 #124
Totally with you. pdsimdars Oct 2018 #117
Authenticity! zentrum Oct 2018 #119
Damn right! LBM20 Oct 2018 #122
Couldn't agree more!!!! Catch2.2 Oct 2018 #130
Avenatti likes to attack democrats too... fallout87 Oct 2018 #132
So Dems never need to be called out?? Post some quotes that bother you! nt USALiberal Oct 2018 #141
How about you post some of his attacks against (D)'s that you found helpful.. fallout87 Oct 2018 #143
This message was self-deleted by its author USALiberal Oct 2018 #145
Interesting and provocative post. PatrickforO Oct 2018 #134
I do really like Michael Avenatti but yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #146

Cary

(11,746 posts)
1. How about we all vote Democratic?
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 05:35 PM
Oct 2018

If we all vote, we win.

Everything else is blah blah blah. Everything, that is, otber than you going out yourself and getting elected.and making things happen.

 

LBM20

(1,580 posts)
3. Why not vote Democratic AND kick the verbal crap out of Trump & his band of racist evil fuckwads?
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 05:38 PM
Oct 2018

And by the way, I have just this afternoon returned from another day of campaign work. I've been burning shoe leather like hell for 14 years for Dem candidates.

Just voting isn't enough. We need STRONG candidates, a STRONG message, and we need to get on offense and STAY there!

Autumn

(45,072 posts)
7. We are supposed to do only one thing at a time?
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 05:42 PM
Oct 2018
Let's vote and talk about the good things people on our side do and say.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
27. You owe me no explanation
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:49 PM
Oct 2018

You can blah blah all you want. At the end of the day it is about voting and if Unindicted Co-Conspirator doesn't motivate nothing will.

getagrip_already

(14,743 posts)
46. I'll bet michael cohen doesn't think it's blah-blah....
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:40 PM
Oct 2018

Agree or not, but aqvanatti pinned cohens ears back and forced the exposure of very real financial crimes. Maybe muehler knew already, and maybe he didn't, but now WE know.

He also brought a credible accuser forward in the kavanaugh hearings. That story isn't over yet. But it might be with anyone else.

So yeah, I like the guy. And I'll vote. And I'll do whatever I can to gotv where it counts.

And yeah, we can still appreciate him.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
90. You serm to think I am criticizing Avenatti
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 11:51 PM
Oct 2018

I'm not, or at least have not done so here at DU. Not yet.

I am not ready to support him for president. He ought to get some political experience. But yeah there is a lot of blah blah, and that isn't what it takes to win.

ProfessorGAC

(65,013 posts)
112. What Are You Talking About?
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 06:31 AM
Oct 2018

All PINO had was blah, blah, blah. Who's squatting in the WH?

All the R leadership in Congress? Blah, blah, blah. Who has seated 2 SCOTUS judges?

The tea party was nothing but blah, blah, blah, but people have to hear what those 27 fucking idiots think, 5 times a week.

The blah, blah, blah is what attracts the vote. How could you have missed that?

Cary

(11,746 posts)
136. Why would you emulate them?
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 01:55 PM
Oct 2018

They have blah blah but they also have voter suppression, Russian interference, Comey, gerrymandering, relics of slavery to give more power to less populous states, and bottom third of the IQ cult morons.

getagrip_already

(14,743 posts)
129. agree he isn't ready to be potus.....
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 11:34 AM
Oct 2018

I just like his attitude right where he is. He is more effective as an outsider. His schtick wouldn't work on the inside.

But given the choice between him and the the tinny mushroom head, I'd take avanetti. But he won't be my primary candidate.

 

LBM20

(1,580 posts)
59. The only "blah blah blah" is the weakness and wimpy drivel we've been dealing with for TOO long.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 09:02 PM
Oct 2018

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
5. That assumes elections are fair.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 05:41 PM
Oct 2018

I’m no longer sure. All kinds of dirty tricks going on (suppression, gerrymandering, Russian interference). How do you fight that? Maybe by loudly fighting back and exposing the shady tactics.

getagrip_already

(14,743 posts)
47. elections have never been fair, though some...
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:46 PM
Oct 2018

Were decidedly less fair than others.

Remember the history of Jim Crow laws? Black men at one point were only 3/5 of a white man, and woman couldn't vote at all until the 1900's. There were random "poll taxes", and "IQ tests". There were lynchings with blacks hung outside voting locations.

And it wasn't long ago that journalists were killed here in the good old us of a.

So lets not let those lessons have to be learned all over again. Get everyone you can to the polls. Make there 5% solution drown under a 10% response.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
120. Agreed. But the Dems
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 09:11 AM
Oct 2018

...do not scream about this to high heaven.

Do not demand investigations.

Do not hold press conferences on it.

Do not give speeches about it on the floor of Congress with charts and graphics.

They have the capacity to make this front page news but it's always a small story in the alternative media---a special on National Public Radio or something like that.

The stealing of elections (gerrymandering, supression, rejecting Native American voters and others, etc.) is one of the most dangerous things going on and I'm not sure "turning out the vote" is going to overcome it. This needed to be a huge story, month after month, year after year, until finally the MSM could not ignore it.

 

onit2day

(1,201 posts)
73. We're not wrong they win because they cheat.If they didn't, dems woild hold most of congress
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:27 PM
Oct 2018

They back their lies up with tons of media money, while suppressing the vote or out right stealing the votes like with Trump. Yes I listen to the criticism but those critical forget repubs have been winning because they cheat. Their corporate buddies own the machines that tally and count the vote. It accounts for this so called "red shift", notice the discrepancies never go the dems way. Yes, now we also have to deal with deplorables who only care about power and not the country but if we went to paper ballots that could be checked and made voting easier dems would sweep the nation.

Progressive dog

(6,900 posts)
9. Avenatti attacked the Democratic party "establishment",
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 06:03 PM
Oct 2018

which means he does not support most existing elected Democrats. That attack is a crass attempt to split Democrats and could help hand another election to the Trump party.

 

LBM20

(1,580 posts)
11. He strongly supports Dems. He hates Trump. He is wants Dems to FIGHT. So GOOD!
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 06:23 PM
Oct 2018

He is a Dem! It is ok to be a strong Dem and not like that some Dems won't fight hard. He's sick of it, and so are MANY of us. That doesn't mean we are against Dems. We ARE Dems. We are just sick to death of jelly spined weakness among SOME Dems. You can't play nicey nice with SCUMBAG RePUKElicans.

Progressive dog

(6,900 posts)
131. Avenatti is not a normal political figure
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 12:24 PM
Oct 2018

for the USA. The linked article was from before the Avenatti (probably unintended) help with Kavanaugh's confirmation.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/07/what-democrats-get-wrong-about-trumps-victory

 

thegoose

(3,115 posts)
142. Absolutely!
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 04:30 PM
Oct 2018

Why are people on this forum saying they're tired of Avenatti? He's going for the throat! We need more like him and Maxine Waters.

Especially since the Pukes are trying to change the program and saying that Democrats are now the ruthless power-seekers. Fuck them and fuck Dump, too. Every time he says "the Democ-rat party," I want to explode. Piece of shit was a Democrat before he became an opportunistic infection.

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
13. Av may be loud and aggressive, but he isn't crass.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 06:50 PM
Oct 2018

Nor is he trying to split Democrats.

He’s completely polite when kicking ass and never vulgar.

I think you must mean someone else.

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
21. Self-promoter
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:24 PM
Oct 2018

Of course people on a site like DU like what he says, but my opinion is he alienates a lot of voters, and his constant presence on TV and grandstanding is overall a negative for the Democratic Party.
My opinion only, and has been reinforced by hearing from more than a few Trump voters who are assessing how to vote in November.

Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #65)

Qutzupalotl

(14,310 posts)
125. This whole thread seems to be an excuse for you to trash the Democratic party.
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 10:28 AM
Oct 2018

Try making it stronger instead of trashing it.

brush

(53,776 posts)
68. Yes, that is your opinion. Not echoed much on this thread, however.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:08 PM
Oct 2018

And thank God for that.

We need strong Dems who fight back. No more milquetoast pablum spewers with no spine.

FakeNoose

(32,638 posts)
20. Please check your facts, I believe you're incorrect
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:22 PM
Oct 2018

I've seen many news stories and tweets from/about Michael Avenatti and I'm not aware that he ever attacked the Democratic party leadership. You might want to consider self-deleting this post.

Progressive dog

(6,900 posts)
135. It hasn't happened yet, but give him time
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 12:51 PM
Oct 2018

Avenatti has tweeted that the Democratic establishment is not fighting hard enough.

getagrip_already

(14,743 posts)
48. Really?
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:49 PM
Oct 2018

I think you have him mixed up with bernie sanders. Now that was, and continues to be, an attack.

Avanatti not so much.

Progressive dog

(6,900 posts)
133. Avenatti reminds me of Trump
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 12:32 PM
Oct 2018
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/07/what-democrats-get-wrong-about-trumps-victory
No political beliefs and win at any cost. If Bernie had gotten the nomination, I would have to take antacids, but would have voted for him.

brush

(53,776 posts)
64. BS. He responded to a Solis Doyle commentary. He didn't attack...
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:00 PM
Oct 2018

the Democratic Party establishment so it's no time to resurrect that old canard.

The 2016 election is long over when a certain senator from a small state was constantly attacking the Democratic Party establishment, as he called it.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
95. Avenatti does bash the "Democratic Establishment"
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 12:54 AM
Oct 2018

One Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee privately was more direct.

"It wasn't helpful because the story became about Avenatti," the Democratic senator said.

Avenatti, who headlined an Ohio fundraiser Friday and is considering running for president in 2020, said he wears that Democratic criticism with a "badge of honor."

"Many establishment Democrats are concerned because they see me as a threat," Avenatti said.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/10/06/politics/democrats-avenatti-swetnick-accusation/index.html

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
98. In the context yes
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 01:26 AM
Oct 2018

Anonymous Democrats were criticizing him so he criticized them right back.

Reached for comment Saturday, Avenatti pushed back, criticizing anonymous Democrats as "cowards" and saying the assessment shows the "failed leadership" in the Democratic Party.

brush

(53,776 posts)
99. Let me get this straight. Some Democrats critiized him so he responded...
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 02:01 AM
Oct 2018

in kind and he's the one accused of attacking the Democratic Party establishment?

Ok. Gotcha.

Guess he should just roll over and take it like the party has been doing all this time while the repugs have lied, cheated, colluded and stole election after election, the House, state houses, the Senate, the White House, Supreme Court seats and on and on and on.

Nah, that's not him and thank got we've got a fighter.

Glad he's on our side.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
101. I never said I disagreed with him
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 02:23 AM
Oct 2018

I'm glad he is on our side to or otherwise Trump wouldn't be a uninfected co-conspirator. Not yet anyway.

colorado_ufo

(5,734 posts)
12. We have got to stop bringing the weak sauce.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 06:42 PM
Oct 2018

The reason there is an appeal for strongman behavior at some deep level with people is that strength equals protection. There is a concern, conscious or subconscious, that Democrats who let Republicans walk all over them will not be able to defend the country.

 

LBM20

(1,580 posts)
19. God damned right. WEAKNESS is FAILURE. Bill Clinton said, "Always be STRONG!"
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:11 PM
Oct 2018

Last edited Sun Oct 14, 2018, 06:02 AM - Edit history (1)

safeinOhio

(32,675 posts)
15. Takes a spark to light a fire.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:03 PM
Oct 2018

So far I only see Kamala Harris and AV with any youthful fire on our side. I'm all for her for President and him for VP. Those two could make trump and the crazy party fold like an accordion.

We won the last election, but it's going to take more than a few million votes to beat the crooks.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
16. A self-aggrandizing blowhard? NO THANKS!
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:06 PM
Oct 2018

There's something VERY off with this guy.

I seriously don't understand the bandwagon support for this guy.

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
74. You single-handedly raise the only strawman "Sound like you are against the Democrats" to be found
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:27 PM
Oct 2018

and then revert to what might charitably be called an adolescent tone while accusing your challenger of the very thing you have so transparently done.


Brilliant.

Response to Maru Kitteh (Reply #74)

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
149. And he's been fired by his client....
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 07:03 PM
Mar 2019

....who is seeking an accounting of what he did with all the money he collected on her behalf.

He's a crook.

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
24. Agreed. Maybe some of Avenatti's toughness & confidence will rub off on our people.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:37 PM
Oct 2018

I love the way he thumps Trump.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
25. Avenatti is a hack. Out for himself. If you don't believe it, wait a year or so.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:44 PM
Oct 2018

And now challenging trump Jr to a damn cage fight?
Stupid bullshit I'd expect out of Mark Levin or Hannity.

And no, I dont think he's going to win his cases against trump OR get to depose him

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
30. He's fabulous. The challenge does not hurt us at all, and it throws a light on Jr's doughy
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:52 PM
Oct 2018

incompetence. And that reflects on the idiot in the white house. I love it.

He is different, he doesn't hurt us at all, he shows the republicans for what they are, and he scares the living shit out of every one of them.

Long may he reign.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
38. I realize at least some of Rumps's lawyers are hacks
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:01 PM
Oct 2018

but this is not the first time Avenatti has brought a case against him/them and they settled that one for an "undisclosed sum." Just sayin.'

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
113. No, he hasnt been right about everything. He's promised many things & not delivered.
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 07:52 AM
Oct 2018

The mysterious damning DVD that was "coming soon" 6 months ago, the "bombshell" evidence that never materialized, his "slam dunk 100% credible" Kavanaugh accuser whose credibility fell apart as soon as she was revealed. The list goes on. His past betrays him as a smarmy TV lawyer. He's been in trouble with the IRS, the state of Ca investigating him, had multi million dollar judgements against him, etc.
All that being said, it sometimes takes a scumbag to battle a scumbag, as in trump, but he's gotten far too impressed with his own press to be taken seriously anymore. But hey, we sometimes hitch our wagon to whatever looks like the best vehicle.

srobertss

(261 posts)
29. Not sure about Avenatti
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:50 PM
Oct 2018

A regular caller into Sam Seder’s podcast, Majority Report, is an immigration lawyer and when Avenatti got involved in immigration issues various immigration lawyers reached out to him and got no response. Immigration law is pretty specialized and I would think he might want to gather info from experienced people. This is very anecdotal and one persons point of view, but it has made me wary. I always respect this callers input so I took it to heart.

I do agree though, that it’s going to take a special nominee to break through Trump’s strange hold over the country.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
31. I'm disappointed to see him start grifting tho'.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:53 PM
Oct 2018

He's got an ActBlue thing going where he encourages you to "support Beto O'Rourke" but half the donations go to his pac.

brush

(53,776 posts)
78. Why is that wrong? Beto gets half, his pack gets half.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:33 PM
Oct 2018

He's a smart enough lawyer to know he can't misappropriate funds in a pac.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
86. He was still using Beto's name without permission to raise funds for his PAC
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 11:20 PM
Oct 2018

Which is why he took it down when he got called out on it.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
148. That's not much of a power player then, is it?
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 07:38 PM
Oct 2018

Unimpressive. Looks more like trying to cash in on Beto than to help him. Just my take. Up until recently I've been intrigued by the notion of him running for the WH. Him challenging Jr to a cage match and this little fundraising bit makes me rethink that.

I am glad he said he wouldn't run if Trump/Pence aren't on the ticket.

 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
33. In my social circles more seem to regard him as a clown than anything else. I've heard him...
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:56 PM
Oct 2018

Referred to as “creepy porn lawyer” on more than one occasion.

dem4decades

(11,288 posts)
40. So your friends quote Republicans like Tucker Carlson?
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:03 PM
Oct 2018

Why not stick up for Avenatti to those jerks.

brush

(53,776 posts)
70. Come on. Stop spreading repug talking points.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:20 PM
Oct 2018

He bought Cohen and trump's illegal campaign payoffs out into the open. TRUMP IS AN UNINDICTED CO-CONSPIRATOR and the country knows it because of Avenatti so stop the bs.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
96. They must be Fox News watchers
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 12:58 AM
Oct 2018

Over there they use that. I can understand not liking Avenatti but can we avoid RW smears?

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
39. Avenatti has been great at getting media attention
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:01 PM
Oct 2018

which is 100% essential to winning at the presidential level. That said, can he keep that up? He already seems to be struggling for attention since Julie Swetnick couldn't even get the FBI to speak to her.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
43. uh, neither could Christine Blasey Ford...nor Bart O'Kavanaugh for that matter.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:05 PM
Oct 2018

was that Avenatti's fault too, or do you think something else was going on?

 

LBM20

(1,580 posts)
54. I don't give a shit about "attention." I give a shit about having STRONG Dems for a fucking change.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:56 PM
Oct 2018
 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
44. United we stand, divided we fall.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:13 PM
Oct 2018

I like Michael Avenatti but what brought this on?

This thread needs to disappear, it's pointless.

Jerry Nadler is a rather quiet unassuming Congressman, when Dems take control of Congress he is going to lay Trump's taxes on the table. In other words he is going to speak softly and carry a big stick.

Anthony Weiner was a popular, loud mouth in your face Congressman, but what did he accomplish? What Bills did he sponsor?

Believe me I'm not knocking any Democrats, those who speak softly and carry a big stick or those who speak loudly and carry a big stick. We don't need to be arguing about what kind of temperament a Democratic candidate should have. All of our candidates are fighters. I plan on voting straight Democratic in Pa., nuff said.

brush

(53,776 posts)
79. What bought it on is another thread on here attacking Avenatti.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:38 PM
Oct 2018

There's a cabal of the same names who constantly post that they are tired of Avenatti despite the fact that he's the only Democrat showing any toughness towards trump and the repugs.

That other thread is still up so you can probably still find it.

It's the reason for this thread.

nini

(16,672 posts)
55. He's another bully huckster
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:57 PM
Oct 2018

He's supposedly on our side so much so that he made money off fundraising for Beto. I don't know about you but my Democratic upbringing did not include making a buck off others like that.

He's a lawyer like Gloria Alred, with the knack for publicity to give their clients a change against the powerful I like that.. He needs to stick with his day job and quit bashing the Democrats.

Everyone seems to need an asshole to step forward. We can be strong and united with his kind.

nini

(16,672 posts)
84. FFS I know that.. he's also bashing Dems
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 11:16 PM
Oct 2018

so fuck him.

We don't need another narcissist divider of the party right now. We suffered enough in 2016 over those types.

He's also making a shitload of money off his shtick.

WhiteTara

(29,707 posts)
62. Hillary said the same thing a few days before he did.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 09:24 PM
Oct 2018

He's applauded and she was told her opinion is unwanted.

WhiteTara

(29,707 posts)
75. Nah, couldn't be. This is the 21st century
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:27 PM
Oct 2018

and aren't we enlightened yet? Okay, yeah, it's sexism. Women speak and men hear blah blah blah as famously noted by John Kelly.

brush

(53,776 posts)
72. What the hell are you talking about? Avenatti's been hitting back against...
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:26 PM
Oct 2018

the repugs for months. Hillary and Holder just followed his lead in the last couple of weeks in saying we need to "be strong" and "kick them when they go low".

Where have you been?

Sugarcoated

(7,722 posts)
71. Yes!
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:21 PM
Oct 2018

I made this case in a thread last week, that we need to elect Democrats who know how to fight, not just legislatively but in the media because Republicans sure do. They know the importance of getting out there and controlling, shaping and POUNDING a message. Authenticity and fight is the key.

brush

(53,776 posts)
80. Yes. Social media is now part of the campaign battlefield.
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:41 PM
Oct 2018

We can't afford to have no social media presence and party members who know how to use it.

How can we forget the Russian bots and how they helped steal the election from Hillary.

Avenatti can teach lesson's to some of the other Dems who are late to the party on this.

 

LBM20

(1,580 posts)
108. And today the R's control EVERYTHING because of past WEAK SHITTY campaigns. Time to FIGHT again!!!
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 06:06 AM
Oct 2018

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
83. Some of the Avenatti bashing
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 11:09 PM
Oct 2018

sounds like Russian / GOP trolls. We need someone who's willing to use brass knuckles. For far too long Democrats have come to a gun fight wearing boxing gloves. Taking the high road these days means being the patsy. We have to be dedicated to winning by any means necessary because that's what we're up against. Michael Avenatti is a Democrat. I thought there was to be no bashing of other Democrats on DU. I'm seriously thinking of putting those who bash other Democrats on total ignore.

nini

(16,672 posts)
85. Yes.. I'm a Russian Troll. because I don't trust the latest party savior
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 11:18 PM
Oct 2018

No one said not to fight. I don't trust his motives or him.


Please - put me on ignore - it'll make you feel better.

 

LBM20

(1,580 posts)
111. Not necessarily a "savior" but an ALLY and a breath of fresh air who has GUTS! So GOOD for him!
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 06:17 AM
Oct 2018

nini

(16,672 posts)
127. Does this remind you of anyone?
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 11:21 AM
Oct 2018



He is the left's Trump. NO THANKS

He perfectly explains how Trump pulled in so many on the far right. He attacks anyone who dares question is overblown ego, and those who get in his way. Then those who buy it find excuses for him every step of the way. The excuses for the Beto funding are disturbing.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
92. "Some of the Avenatti bashing sounds like Russian / GOP trolls."
Sat Oct 13, 2018, 11:54 PM
Oct 2018
We need someone who's willing to use brass knuckles. For far too long Democrats have come to a gun fight wearing boxing gloves. Taking the high road these days means being the patsy. We have to be dedicated to winning by any means necessary because that's what we're up against.


THIS ^^^^

ALL day LONG.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
94. Maybe not Avenatti personally but certainly someone with that fire
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 12:38 AM
Oct 2018

My opinion: It's going to take a political pit bull to bounce Trump. It would really be refreshing to have a candidate on our side who will match Trump blow for blow. Someone who is totally okay with jumping into the mud and can dish it out with just as much ferocity as Trump and his zombies do.

While I deeply respect Michelle Obama, the only thing that going high while they go low has done is give the fascists a clearer shot at our ass.

Response to Jake Stern (Reply #94)

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
118. Wow, I couldn't help but think when I read your source article that Avenatti has an identical
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 08:32 AM
Oct 2018

Shady business past as Don the Con. Who could support this guy ?

Qutzupalotl

(14,310 posts)
126. Wrong again.
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 10:44 AM
Oct 2018

A law firm of Stormy Daniels' attorney Michael Avenatti was hit with a $10-million judgment Tuesday in U.S. Bankruptcy Court after he broke his promise to pay $2 million to a former colleague.

Judge Catherine Bauer of U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Santa Ana ordered Eagan Avenatti to pay the $10 million to Jason Frank, a lawyer who used to work at the Newport Beach firm. "At this point, that's what's appropriate," Bauer said at a brief hearing.

To settle his law firm's bankruptcy, Avenatti personally guaranteed in December that it would pay Frank $4.85 million. But he and Eagan Avenatti failed to pay the first $2 million installment that was due last week, triggering Tuesday's judgment.

The firm is also delinquent on $440,291 in back taxes, penalties and interest that Avenatti promised would be paid last week, Assistant U.S. Atty. Najah Shariff told the bankruptcy judge.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-avenatti-bankruptcy-20180522-story.html

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
116. I agree! Democratic leadership plays too nicey nicey with the GOP leadership!
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 08:06 AM
Oct 2018

At the same time the GOP pushes their agenda with a "no holds bar" no excuses approach.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
117. Totally with you.
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 08:23 AM
Oct 2018

the Dems leadership needs to step back and let the candidate emerge. Avenatti, not Avenatti, doesn't matter, whoever it is that INSPIRES the base, THAT should be the candidate. Look at Beto. He stands up AGRESSIVELY for our values. How many Democrats would stand up so strongly and clearly when asked about Kaeperhick? He said is exactly right and strongly and he has raised THREE TIMES the money that Cruz has this quarter.
The real power in this country is in the PEOPLE and not in the rich and it's time the Democrats remembered that.

Catch2.2

(629 posts)
130. Couldn't agree more!!!!
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 11:40 AM
Oct 2018

When I was a kid learning about the revolutionary war. I remember being taught that the British would line up in a field with their muskets and shoot at their enemy. Instead of lining up opposite the British, the Americans would shoot from behind trees, etc. The British thought they were savages for not engaging in what they considered the normal and correct way to do battle.

...well right now the Democrats are the British. Lining up in a field, side by side, with their muskets, wondering why the republicans aren't doing the same.

 

fallout87

(819 posts)
132. Avenatti likes to attack democrats too...
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 12:32 PM
Oct 2018

Why? Because its all about him. Im not buying into his bullshit. He's an opportunist.

Response to USALiberal (Reply #141)

PatrickforO

(14,573 posts)
134. Interesting and provocative post.
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 12:40 PM
Oct 2018

I'm thinking we're seeing that with more candidates of color and LGBT people running on a healthcare/education platform.

I called up the (R) US Senator for my state and asked his staffer to explain to me how a space force is better for my family than healthcare. He couldn't answer, but I'm going to - with a straight blue ballot.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
146. I do really like Michael Avenatti but
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 05:15 PM
Oct 2018

not sure He is Presidential Material, yet... so I will wait and see, how it all pans out for him, If he were the only Democrat on the ticket, than I would say yes...but right now I want to see what others spring up..if its

Kamala Harris, I would vote yes in a second.

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