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Sat Oct 13, 2018, 05:30 PM

 

Avenatti is awesome! It is about damn time!

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I am an active lifelong Dem, and like Avenatti and SO many others I have wanted the party to get back to being the tough fighters we used to be under FDR, Truman, and JFK.

You can't play nicey-nice and sing campfire songs with Traitor Don and his Cult and today's viscious vomit-inducing GOP. ENOUGH!

Where the hell has that that gotten us? Tell me. The R's control all levels and branches of the government across the country. Gee, how's that working out?

It is a FAILURE! We didn't ask for this fight, but if I have anything to say about, we are damn well going to win it.

I love that Avenatti doesn't take ANY shit from these GOP scumbags. Enough is enough!

Get on OFFENSE and STAY THERE! Be STRONG! Be CLEAR! Have some GUTS again!

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Reply Avenatti is awesome! It is about damn time! (Original post)
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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 05:35 PM

1. How about we all vote Democratic?

If we all vote, we win.

Everything else is blah blah blah. Everything, that is, otber than you going out yourself and getting elected.and making things happen.

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Response to Cary (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 05:38 PM

3. Why not vote Democratic AND kick the verbal crap out of Trump & his band of racist evil fuckwads?

 

And by the way, I have just this afternoon returned from another day of campaign work. I've been burning shoe leather like hell for 14 years for Dem candidates.

Just voting isn't enough. We need STRONG candidates, a STRONG message, and we need to get on offense and STAY there!

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Response to LBM20 (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 05:42 PM

7. We are supposed to do only one thing at a time?

Let's vote and talk about the good things people on our side do and say.

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Response to LBM20 (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:49 PM

27. You owe me no explanation

You can blah blah all you want. At the end of the day it is about voting and if Unindicted Co-Conspirator doesn't motivate nothing will.

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Response to Cary (Reply #27)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:40 PM

46. I'll bet michael cohen doesn't think it's blah-blah....

Agree or not, but aqvanatti pinned cohens ears back and forced the exposure of very real financial crimes. Maybe muehler knew already, and maybe he didn't, but now WE know.

He also brought a credible accuser forward in the kavanaugh hearings. That story isn't over yet. But it might be with anyone else.

So yeah, I like the guy. And I'll vote. And I'll do whatever I can to gotv where it counts.

And yeah, we can still appreciate him.

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #46)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 11:51 PM

90. You serm to think I am criticizing Avenatti

I'm not, or at least have not done so here at DU. Not yet.

I am not ready to support him for president. He ought to get some political experience. But yeah there is a lot of blah blah, and that isn't what it takes to win.

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Response to Cary (Reply #90)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 06:31 AM

112. What Are You Talking About?

All PINO had was blah, blah, blah. Who's squatting in the WH?

All the R leadership in Congress? Blah, blah, blah. Who has seated 2 SCOTUS judges?

The tea party was nothing but blah, blah, blah, but people have to hear what those 27 fucking idiots think, 5 times a week.

The blah, blah, blah is what attracts the vote. How could you have missed that?

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #112)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 01:55 PM

136. Why would you emulate them?

They have blah blah but they also have voter suppression, Russian interference, Comey, gerrymandering, relics of slavery to give more power to less populous states, and bottom third of the IQ cult morons.

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Response to Cary (Reply #90)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 11:34 AM

129. agree he isn't ready to be potus.....

I just like his attitude right where he is. He is more effective as an outsider. His schtick wouldn't work on the inside.

But given the choice between him and the the tinny mushroom head, I'd take avanetti. But he won't be my primary candidate.

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Response to Cary (Reply #27)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 09:02 PM

59. The only "blah blah blah" is the weakness and wimpy drivel we've been dealing with for TOO long.

 

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Response to LBM20 (Reply #59)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 11:51 PM

91. If.you think you can do better, run for office.

Talk is cheap.

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Response to LBM20 (Reply #3)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 12:37 AM

93. Damn right! Kick this

Vote Dem + talk tough! We can multitask

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Response to Cary (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 05:41 PM

5. That assumes elections are fair.

I’m no longer sure. All kinds of dirty tricks going on (suppression, gerrymandering, Russian interference). How do you fight that? Maybe by loudly fighting back and exposing the shady tactics.

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Response to Laurian (Reply #5)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 06:04 PM

10. Come out in big numbers. VOTE. SEIZE POWER. And KEEP POWER! And SMASH the GOP!

 

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Response to Laurian (Reply #5)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:46 PM

47. elections have never been fair, though some...

Were decidedly less fair than others.

Remember the history of Jim Crow laws? Black men at one point were only 3/5 of a white man, and woman couldn't vote at all until the 1900's. There were random "poll taxes", and "IQ tests". There were lynchings with blacks hung outside voting locations.

And it wasn't long ago that journalists were killed here in the good old us of a.

So lets not let those lessons have to be learned all over again. Get everyone you can to the polls. Make there 5% solution drown under a 10% response.

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Response to Laurian (Reply #5)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 09:11 AM

120. Agreed. But the Dems

...do not scream about this to high heaven.

Do not demand investigations.

Do not hold press conferences on it.

Do not give speeches about it on the floor of Congress with charts and graphics.

They have the capacity to make this front page news but it's always a small story in the alternative media---a special on National Public Radio or something like that.

The stealing of elections (gerrymandering, supression, rejecting Native American voters and others, etc.) is one of the most dangerous things going on and I'm not sure "turning out the vote" is going to overcome it. This needed to be a huge story, month after month, year after year, until finally the MSM could not ignore it.

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 05:37 PM

2. Agree!

nt

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Response to ananda (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:27 PM

73. We're not wrong they win because they cheat.If they didn't, dems woild hold most of congress

 

They back their lies up with tons of media money, while suppressing the vote or out right stealing the votes like with Trump. Yes I listen to the criticism but those critical forget repubs have been winning because they cheat. Their corporate buddies own the machines that tally and count the vote. It accounts for this so called "red shift", notice the discrepancies never go the dems way. Yes, now we also have to deal with deplorables who only care about power and not the country but if we went to paper ballots that could be checked and made voting easier dems would sweep the nation.

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Response to onit2day (Reply #73)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:29 PM

76. bttw...we will lose the planet unless we vote democratic. Last chance to tackle climate change

 

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 05:40 PM

4. He's a hell of a voice out there for us. He doesn't take any shit that's for sure.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #4)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 05:41 PM

6. And GOOD! It is about fucking time!

 

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 05:48 PM

8. Agree!!! n/t

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 06:03 PM

9. Avenatti attacked the Democratic party "establishment",

which means he does not support most existing elected Democrats. That attack is a crass attempt to split Democrats and could help hand another election to the Trump party.

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Response to Progressive dog (Reply #9)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 06:23 PM

11. He strongly supports Dems. He hates Trump. He is wants Dems to FIGHT. So GOOD!

 

He is a Dem! It is ok to be a strong Dem and not like that some Dems won't fight hard. He's sick of it, and so are MANY of us. That doesn't mean we are against Dems. We ARE Dems. We are just sick to death of jelly spined weakness among SOME Dems. You can't play nicey nice with SCUMBAG RePUKElicans.

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Response to LBM20 (Reply #11)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 11:44 PM

89. I'm with you... Avenatti is leading by example how to fight fire with fire.

Good for him!

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Response to LBM20 (Reply #11)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 12:24 PM

131. Avenatti is not a normal political figure

for the USA. The linked article was from before the Avenatti (probably unintended) help with Kavanaugh's confirmation.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/07/what-democrats-get-wrong-about-trumps-victory

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Response to LBM20 (Reply #11)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 04:30 PM

142. Absolutely!

 

Why are people on this forum saying they're tired of Avenatti? He's going for the throat! We need more like him and Maxine Waters.

Especially since the Pukes are trying to change the program and saying that Democrats are now the ruthless power-seekers. Fuck them and fuck Dump, too. Every time he says "the Democ-rat party," I want to explode. Piece of shit was a Democrat before he became an opportunistic infection.

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Response to Progressive dog (Reply #9)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 06:50 PM

13. Av may be loud and aggressive, but he isn't crass.

Nor is he trying to split Democrats.

He’s completely polite when kicking ass and never vulgar.

I think you must mean someone else.

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #13)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 06:56 PM

14. He is TOUGH. Not vile. But TOUGH. Very STRONG. And that is what we need.

 

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Response to LBM20 (Reply #14)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:24 PM

21. Self-promoter

Of course people on a site like DU like what he says, but my opinion is he alienates a lot of voters, and his constant presence on TV and grandstanding is overall a negative for the Democratic Party.
My opinion only, and has been reinforced by hearing from more than a few Trump voters who are assessing how to vote in November.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #21)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:29 PM

22. No, a good Dem and TOUGH FIGHTER FOR A DAMNED REFRESHING CHANGE!

 

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Response to LBM20 (Reply #22)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:31 PM

23. We both have our opinions

Yours just had a lot more capital letters.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #23)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:53 PM

51. Maybe you should try some CAPITAL letters. Enough of the pathetic weakness!

 

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Response to LBM20 (Reply #51)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:05 PM

65. Nah, instead I will just use

The Ignore function and Trash This Thread.
Bye.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #65)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 06:01 AM

104. Weakness in politics is political DEATH. Gee, the WEAKNESS is working out so great isn't it?

 

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Response to LBM20 (Reply #104)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 10:28 AM

125. This whole thread seems to be an excuse for you to trash the Democratic party.

Try making it stronger instead of trashing it.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #21)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:08 PM

68. Yes, that is your opinion. Not echoed much on this thread, however.

And thank God for that.

We need strong Dems who fight back. No more milquetoast pablum spewers with no spine.

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Response to Progressive dog (Reply #9)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:22 PM

20. Please check your facts, I believe you're incorrect

I've seen many news stories and tweets from/about Michael Avenatti and I'm not aware that he ever attacked the Democratic party leadership. You might want to consider self-deleting this post.

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Response to Progressive dog (Reply #9)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:54 PM

32. This never happened. Why would you say it did?

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Response to Squinch (Reply #32)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 12:51 PM

135. It hasn't happened yet, but give him time

Avenatti has tweeted that the Democratic establishment is not fighting hard enough.

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Response to Progressive dog (Reply #135)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 03:43 PM

137. FFS, you can predict the future? nt

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Response to Progressive dog (Reply #135)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 05:56 PM

147. .

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Response to Progressive dog (Reply #9)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:49 PM

48. Really?

I think you have him mixed up with bernie sanders. Now that was, and continues to be, an attack.

Avanatti not so much.

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #48)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 12:32 PM

133. Avenatti reminds me of Trump

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/07/what-democrats-get-wrong-about-trumps-victory
No political beliefs and win at any cost. If Bernie had gotten the nomination, I would have to take antacids, but would have voted for him.

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Response to Progressive dog (Reply #133)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 04:59 PM

144. yes! Just look at this - same language

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Response to Progressive dog (Reply #9)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:00 PM

64. BS. He responded to a Solis Doyle commentary. He didn't attack...

the Democratic Party establishment so it's no time to resurrect that old canard.

The 2016 election is long over when a certain senator from a small state was constantly attacking the Democratic Party establishment, as he called it.

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Response to brush (Reply #64)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 12:54 AM

95. Avenatti does bash the "Democratic Establishment"

One Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee privately was more direct.

"It wasn't helpful because the story became about Avenatti," the Democratic senator said.

Avenatti, who headlined an Ohio fundraiser Friday and is considering running for president in 2020, said he wears that Democratic criticism with a "badge of honor."

"Many establishment Democrats are concerned because they see me as a threat," Avenatti said.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/10/06/politics/democrats-avenatti-swetnick-accusation/index.html

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Response to JonLP24 (Reply #95)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 01:23 AM

97. That's an attack to you?

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Response to brush (Reply #97)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 01:26 AM

98. In the context yes

Anonymous Democrats were criticizing him so he criticized them right back.

Reached for comment Saturday, Avenatti pushed back, criticizing anonymous Democrats as "cowards" and saying the assessment shows the "failed leadership" in the Democratic Party.

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Response to JonLP24 (Reply #98)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 02:01 AM

99. Let me get this straight. Some Democrats critiized him so he responded...

in kind and he's the one accused of attacking the Democratic Party establishment?

Ok. Gotcha.

Guess he should just roll over and take it like the party has been doing all this time while the repugs have lied, cheated, colluded and stole election after election, the House, state houses, the Senate, the White House, Supreme Court seats and on and on and on.

Nah, that's not him and thank got we've got a fighter.

Glad he's on our side.

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Response to brush (Reply #99)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 02:23 AM

101. I never said I disagreed with him

I'm glad he is on our side to or otherwise Trump wouldn't be a uninfected co-conspirator. Not yet anyway.

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 06:42 PM

12. We have got to stop bringing the weak sauce.

The reason there is an appeal for strongman behavior at some deep level with people is that strength equals protection. There is a concern, conscious or subconscious, that Democrats who let Republicans walk all over them will not be able to defend the country.

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Response to colorado_ufo (Reply #12)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:11 PM

19. God damned right. WEAKNESS is FAILURE. Bill Clinton said, "Always be STRONG!"

 

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:03 PM

15. Takes a spark to light a fire.

So far I only see Kamala Harris and AV with any youthful fire on our side. I'm all for her for President and him for VP. Those two could make trump and the crazy party fold like an accordion.

We won the last election, but it's going to take more than a few million votes to beat the crooks.

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:06 PM

16. A self-aggrandizing blowhard? NO THANKS!

There's something VERY off with this guy.

I seriously don't understand the bandwagon support for this guy.

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #16)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:09 PM

17. He is a TOUGH FIGHTER and we are sick to death of FAILED WEAKNESS!

 

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Response to LBM20 (Reply #17)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:03 PM

42. Sounds like you're against the Democrats.

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #42)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:52 PM

49. Oh please and for fuck sake! I am against WEAKNESS. If you are for it, good luck.

 

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Response to LBM20 (Reply #49)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 09:21 PM

61. ooo...big strawman argument. Bravo

*slow clap*

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #61)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:27 PM

74. You single-handedly raise the only strawman "Sound like you are against the Democrats" to be found

and then revert to what might charitably be called an adolescent tone while accusing your challenger of the very thing you have so transparently done.


Brilliant.

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #61)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 06:04 AM

106. Yeah, and wallowing in SPINELESS WEAKNESS has done the party so well hasn't it? My god.

 

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #16)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:10 PM

18. Would rather have the "blowhard" than some WEAK FECKLESS JELLY SPINED WIMP!

 

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #16)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:44 PM

26. Thank you.

 

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #16)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:58 PM

34. Totally agree. I want nothing to do with the guy.

 

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #34)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:53 PM

50. Sick to death of weakness, spinelessness, wimpiness, fecklessness. GO AVENATTI!

 

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Response to LBM20 (Reply #50)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:57 PM

56. He is a pretender. His 15 minutes are waning.

 

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #56)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 06:02 AM

105. BULLSHIT! He has been fighting hard for decades. He has GUTS for a god damned CHANGE!

 

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Response to LBM20 (Reply #105)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 08:02 AM

114. Decades ? LOL

 

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Response to LBM20 (Reply #105)

Tue Mar 12, 2019, 07:03 PM

149. And he's been fired by his client....

 


....who is seeking an accounting of what he did with all the money he collected on her behalf.

He's a crook.

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #16)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:15 PM

69. We're tired of the spineless, feckless leadership. Not rocket science...

to figure that out.

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #16)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 03:45 PM

138. I guess you LOVE the Dem leaders who say nothing! LOL. nt

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:37 PM

24. Agreed. Maybe some of Avenatti's toughness & confidence will rub off on our people.

I love the way he thumps Trump.

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:44 PM

25. Avenatti is a hack. Out for himself. If you don't believe it, wait a year or so.

 

And now challenging trump Jr to a damn cage fight?
Stupid bullshit I'd expect out of Mark Levin or Hannity.

And no, I dont think he's going to win his cases against trump OR get to depose him

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Response to 7962 (Reply #25)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:52 PM

30. He's fabulous. The challenge does not hurt us at all, and it throws a light on Jr's doughy

incompetence. And that reflects on the idiot in the white house. I love it.

He is different, he doesn't hurt us at all, he shows the republicans for what they are, and he scares the living shit out of every one of them.

Long may he reign.

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Response to 7962 (Reply #25)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:59 PM

35. +1000

 

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Response to 7962 (Reply #25)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:01 PM

38. I realize at least some of Rumps's lawyers are hacks

 

but this is not the first time Avenatti has brought a case against him/them and they settled that one for an "undisclosed sum." Just sayin.'

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Response to 7962 (Reply #25)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 06:04 AM

107. Bullshit! He has been right about everything he has predicted and is a brilliant FIGHTER!

 

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Response to LBM20 (Reply #107)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 07:52 AM

113. No, he hasnt been right about everything. He's promised many things & not delivered.

 

The mysterious damning DVD that was "coming soon" 6 months ago, the "bombshell" evidence that never materialized, his "slam dunk 100% credible" Kavanaugh accuser whose credibility fell apart as soon as she was revealed. The list goes on. His past betrays him as a smarmy TV lawyer. He's been in trouble with the IRS, the state of Ca investigating him, had multi million dollar judgements against him, etc.
All that being said, it sometimes takes a scumbag to battle a scumbag, as in trump, but he's gotten far too impressed with his own press to be taken seriously anymore. But hey, we sometimes hitch our wagon to whatever looks like the best vehicle.

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Response to 7962 (Reply #25)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 03:46 PM

139. You prefer the Dem leaders who never say anything? Sounds like your type. nt

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:50 PM

28. As far as I know. ..

... he has never ran for office. Not sure that if he did he would be elected.

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:50 PM

29. Not sure about Avenatti

A regular caller into Sam Seder’s podcast, Majority Report, is an immigration lawyer and when Avenatti got involved in immigration issues various immigration lawyers reached out to him and got no response. Immigration law is pretty specialized and I would think he might want to gather info from experienced people. This is very anecdotal and one persons point of view, but it has made me wary. I always respect this callers input so I took it to heart.

I do agree though, that it’s going to take a special nominee to break through Trump’s strange hold over the country.

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:53 PM

31. I'm disappointed to see him start grifting tho'.

He's got an ActBlue thing going where he encourages you to "support Beto O'Rourke" but half the donations go to his pac.

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Response to JNelson6563 (Reply #31)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:00 PM

37. He uses fine print on his website to deceive.

 

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Response to JNelson6563 (Reply #31)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:33 PM

78. Why is that wrong? Beto gets half, his pack gets half.

He's a smart enough lawyer to know he can't misappropriate funds in a pac.

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Response to brush (Reply #78)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 11:20 PM

86. He was still using Beto's name without permission to raise funds for his PAC

 


Which is why he took it down when he got called out on it.

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Response to brush (Reply #78)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 07:38 PM

148. That's not much of a power player then, is it?

Unimpressive. Looks more like trying to cash in on Beto than to help him. Just my take. Up until recently I've been intrigued by the notion of him running for the WH. Him challenging Jr to a cage match and this little fundraising bit makes me rethink that.

I am glad he said he wouldn't run if Trump/Pence aren't on the ticket.

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 07:56 PM

33. In my social circles more seem to regard him as a clown than anything else. I've heard him...

 

Referred to as “creepy porn lawyer” on more than one occasion.

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Response to Marengo (Reply #33)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:00 PM

36. Bingo, thank you.

 

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #36)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:03 PM

41. yeah bingo on the fux noos framing: that's exactly what they called him

 

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Response to shanny (Reply #41)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:58 PM

57. Correction: That is what we have been calling Don the Con for 2 years.

 

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #57)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 09:19 PM

60. you've been calling Don the Con a "creepy porn lawyer" for 2 years?

 

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Response to shanny (Reply #60)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 09:25 PM

63. He is not a lawyer but the creepy part applies to Don the Con.

 

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Response to Marengo (Reply #33)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:03 PM

40. So your friends quote Republicans like Tucker Carlson?

Why not stick up for Avenatti to those jerks.

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Response to Marengo (Reply #33)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:55 PM

52. He is a good Dem and a TOUGH FIGHTER for a fucking change. So good for him.

 

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Response to Marengo (Reply #33)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:20 PM

70. Come on. Stop spreading repug talking points.

He bought Cohen and trump's illegal campaign payoffs out into the open. TRUMP IS AN UNINDICTED CO-CONSPIRATOR and the country knows it because of Avenatti so stop the bs.

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Response to Marengo (Reply #33)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 12:58 AM

96. They must be Fox News watchers

Over there they use that. I can understand not liking Avenatti but can we avoid RW smears?

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Response to Marengo (Reply #33)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 09:31 AM

121. Oh my!

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:01 PM

39. Avenatti has been great at getting media attention

which is 100% essential to winning at the presidential level. That said, can he keep that up? He already seems to be struggling for attention since Julie Swetnick couldn't even get the FBI to speak to her.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #39)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:05 PM

43. uh, neither could Christine Blasey Ford...nor Bart O'Kavanaugh for that matter.

 

was that Avenatti's fault too, or do you think something else was going on?

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #39)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:56 PM

54. I don't give a shit about "attention." I give a shit about having STRONG Dems for a fucking change.

 

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:13 PM

44. United we stand, divided we fall.

 

I like Michael Avenatti but what brought this on?

This thread needs to disappear, it's pointless.

Jerry Nadler is a rather quiet unassuming Congressman, when Dems take control of Congress he is going to lay Trump's taxes on the table. In other words he is going to speak softly and carry a big stick.

Anthony Weiner was a popular, loud mouth in your face Congressman, but what did he accomplish? What Bills did he sponsor?

Believe me I'm not knocking any Democrats, those who speak softly and carry a big stick or those who speak loudly and carry a big stick. We don't need to be arguing about what kind of temperament a Democratic candidate should have. All of our candidates are fighters. I plan on voting straight Democratic in Pa., nuff said.

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Response to watoos (Reply #44)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:55 PM

53. What brings it on is some people pissing on him around here and I for am sick of WEAKNESS.

 

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Response to watoos (Reply #44)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:38 PM

79. What bought it on is another thread on here attacking Avenatti.

There's a cabal of the same names who constantly post that they are tired of Avenatti despite the fact that he's the only Democrat showing any toughness towards trump and the repugs.

That other thread is still up so you can probably still find it.

It's the reason for this thread.

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:27 PM

45. All I can say is, I'm glad he's on our side! Nt

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 08:57 PM

55. He's another bully huckster

He's supposedly on our side so much so that he made money off fundraising for Beto. I don't know about you but my Democratic upbringing did not include making a buck off others like that.

He's a lawyer like Gloria Alred, with the knack for publicity to give their clients a change against the powerful I like that.. He needs to stick with his day job and quit bashing the Democrats.

Everyone seems to need an asshole to step forward. We can be strong and united with his kind.

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Response to nini (Reply #55)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 09:01 PM

58. Oh for fuck sake! He's been slamming Trump bigtime. He's a model FIGHTER and GOOD!

 

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Response to LBM20 (Reply #58)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 11:16 PM

84. FFS I know that.. he's also bashing Dems

so fuck him.

We don't need another narcissist divider of the party right now. We suffered enough in 2016 over those types.

He's also making a shitload of money off his shtick.

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 09:24 PM

62. Hillary said the same thing a few days before he did.

He's applauded and she was told her opinion is unwanted.

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #62)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:07 PM

66. Sexism perhaps?

 

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Response to oberliner (Reply #66)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:27 PM

75. Nah, couldn't be. This is the 21st century

and aren't we enlightened yet? Okay, yeah, it's sexism. Women speak and men hear blah blah blah as famously noted by John Kelly.

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #62)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:26 PM

72. What the hell are you talking about? Avenatti's been hitting back against...

the repugs for months. Hillary and Holder just followed his lead in the last couple of weeks in saying we need to "be strong" and "kick them when they go low".

Where have you been?

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:07 PM

67. I'm glad he's on our side.

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:21 PM

71. Yes!

I made this case in a thread last week, that we need to elect Democrats who know how to fight, not just legislatively but in the media because Republicans sure do. They know the importance of getting out there and controlling, shaping and POUNDING a message. Authenticity and fight is the key.

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Response to Sugarcoated (Reply #71)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:41 PM

80. Yes. Social media is now part of the campaign battlefield.

We can't afford to have no social media presence and party members who know how to use it.

How can we forget the Russian bots and how they helped steal the election from Hillary.

Avenatti can teach lesson's to some of the other Dems who are late to the party on this.

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Response to brush (Reply #80)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:44 PM

81. I meant TV but social media also

If he's not a candidate he should be involved behind the scenes.

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 10:30 PM

77. THIS. LIBERALS WON WORLD WAR II. WE DEFEAT NAZIS. THATS WHAT WE DO. (n/t)

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Response to FreepFryer (Reply #77)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 06:06 AM

108. And today the R's control EVERYTHING because of past WEAK SHITTY campaigns. Time to FIGHT again!!!

 

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 11:09 PM

83. Some of the Avenatti bashing

sounds like Russian / GOP trolls. We need someone who's willing to use brass knuckles. For far too long Democrats have come to a gun fight wearing boxing gloves. Taking the high road these days means being the patsy. We have to be dedicated to winning by any means necessary because that's what we're up against. Michael Avenatti is a Democrat. I thought there was to be no bashing of other Democrats on DU. I'm seriously thinking of putting those who bash other Democrats on total ignore.

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Response to The Wizard (Reply #83)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 11:18 PM

85. Yes.. I'm a Russian Troll. because I don't trust the latest party savior

No one said not to fight. I don't trust his motives or him.


Please - put me on ignore - it'll make you feel better.

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Response to nini (Reply #85)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 11:29 PM

87. total ignore it is (NT)

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Response to nini (Reply #85)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 06:17 AM

111. Not necessarily a "savior" but an ALLY and a breath of fresh air who has GUTS! So GOOD for him!

 

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Response to LBM20 (Reply #111)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 11:21 AM

127. Does this remind you of anyone?




He is the left's Trump. NO THANKS

He perfectly explains how Trump pulled in so many on the far right. He attacks anyone who dares question is overblown ego, and those who get in his way. Then those who buy it find excuses for him every step of the way. The excuses for the Beto funding are disturbing.

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Response to nini (Reply #85)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 08:06 AM

115. +1000

 

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Response to The Wizard (Reply #83)

Sat Oct 13, 2018, 11:54 PM

92. "Some of the Avenatti bashing sounds like Russian / GOP trolls."

We need someone who's willing to use brass knuckles. For far too long Democrats have come to a gun fight wearing boxing gloves. Taking the high road these days means being the patsy. We have to be dedicated to winning by any means necessary because that's what we're up against.


THIS ^^^^

ALL day LONG.

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Response to The Wizard (Reply #83)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 06:09 AM

109. Spot on! Avenatti is so REFRESHING! A STRONG FIGHTER that we NEED for a damn CHANGE!!!

 

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 12:38 AM

94. Maybe not Avenatti personally but certainly someone with that fire

My opinion: It's going to take a political pit bull to bounce Trump. It would really be refreshing to have a candidate on our side who will match Trump blow for blow. Someone who is totally okay with jumping into the mud and can dish it out with just as much ferocity as Trump and his zombies do.

While I deeply respect Michelle Obama, the only thing that going high while they go low has done is give the fascists a clearer shot at our ass.

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 02:12 AM

100. K and R

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Response to Qutzupalotl (Reply #102)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 05:59 AM

103. Avenatti is a breath of fresh air and a tough FIGHTER and we need MORE MORE MORE!!

 

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Response to Qutzupalotl (Reply #102)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 08:32 AM

118. Wow, I couldn't help but think when I read your source article that Avenatti has an identical

 

Shady business past as Don the Con. Who could support this guy ?

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #118)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 10:11 AM

123. Oh BS. It's a load of hyped crap. Avenatti is a brilliant lawyer and Dem FIGHTER. And GOOD.

 

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Response to LBM20 (Reply #123)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 10:44 AM

126. Wrong again.

A law firm of Stormy Daniels' attorney Michael Avenatti was hit with a $10-million judgment Tuesday in U.S. Bankruptcy Court after he broke his promise to pay $2 million to a former colleague.

Judge Catherine Bauer of U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Santa Ana ordered Eagan Avenatti to pay the $10 million to Jason Frank, a lawyer who used to work at the Newport Beach firm. "At this point, that's what's appropriate," Bauer said at a brief hearing.

To settle his law firm's bankruptcy, Avenatti personally guaranteed in December that it would pay Frank $4.85 million. But he and Eagan Avenatti failed to pay the first $2 million installment that was due last week, triggering Tuesday's judgment.

The firm is also delinquent on $440,291 in back taxes, penalties and interest that Avenatti promised would be paid last week, Assistant U.S. Atty. Najah Shariff told the bankruptcy judge.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-avenatti-bankruptcy-20180522-story.html

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Response to Qutzupalotl (Reply #126)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 11:23 AM

128. Sounds very familiar, doesn't it ?

 

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Response to Qutzupalotl (Reply #102)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 03:49 PM

140. A seven month old story???? Nice try. nt

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 08:06 AM

116. I agree! Democratic leadership plays too nicey nicey with the GOP leadership!

At the same time the GOP pushes their agenda with a "no holds bar" no excuses approach.

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Response to UCmeNdc (Reply #116)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 10:11 AM

124. Yup. They get power and keep it. Dems need to regrow their GUTS.

 

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 08:23 AM

117. Totally with you.

 

the Dems leadership needs to step back and let the candidate emerge. Avenatti, not Avenatti, doesn't matter, whoever it is that INSPIRES the base, THAT should be the candidate. Look at Beto. He stands up AGRESSIVELY for our values. How many Democrats would stand up so strongly and clearly when asked about Kaeperhick? He said is exactly right and strongly and he has raised THREE TIMES the money that Cruz has this quarter.
The real power in this country is in the PEOPLE and not in the rich and it's time the Democrats remembered that.

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 09:03 AM

119. Authenticity!

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Response to zentrum (Reply #119)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 10:09 AM

122. Damn right!

 

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 11:40 AM

130. Couldn't agree more!!!!

When I was a kid learning about the revolutionary war. I remember being taught that the British would line up in a field with their muskets and shoot at their enemy. Instead of lining up opposite the British, the Americans would shoot from behind trees, etc. The British thought they were savages for not engaging in what they considered the normal and correct way to do battle.

...well right now the Democrats are the British. Lining up in a field, side by side, with their muskets, wondering why the republicans aren't doing the same.

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 12:32 PM

132. Avenatti likes to attack democrats too...

 

Why? Because its all about him. Im not buying into his bullshit. He's an opportunist.

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Response to fallout87 (Reply #132)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 03:51 PM

141. So Dems never need to be called out?? Post some quotes that bother you! nt

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Response to USALiberal (Reply #141)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 04:46 PM

143. How about you post some of his attacks against (D)'s that you found helpful..

 

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 12:40 PM

134. Interesting and provocative post.

I'm thinking we're seeing that with more candidates of color and LGBT people running on a healthcare/education platform.

I called up the (R) US Senator for my state and asked his staffer to explain to me how a space force is better for my family than healthcare. He couldn't answer, but I'm going to - with a straight blue ballot.

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Sun Oct 14, 2018, 05:15 PM

146. I do really like Michael Avenatti but

not sure He is Presidential Material, yet... so I will wait and see, how it all pans out for him, If he were the only Democrat on the ticket, than I would say yes...but right now I want to see what others spring up..if its

Kamala Harris, I would vote yes in a second.

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