Russ Feingold told me last year HRC would have won by 9M, not 3M were it not for R voter suppression

[jodymarie aimee]

Russ Feingold told me last year HRC would have won by 9M, not 3M were it not for R voter suppression. Right out of his mouth. The Rs in WI are expert at all manner of voter suppression. And they are blatant, as you guys see how Trump & CO operate...they cheat and lie and don't care who knows...nobody holds them accountable. Our minority(1/3) in the Assembly is impossible to flip, but we are hoping for Governor..

I will never vote early again. In Racine they threw thousands of early votes away. And we know they mess with the machines, too. Damn Citizens United and demolishing Voting Rights Act and gerrymandering and Voter ID for aiding them to legally cheat, also.

[LBM20]

1. Then vote, fight, WIN, and USE THE POWER AND KEEP THE POWER. Shitty campaigns have killed us!

[edhopper]

3. No their cheating has killed us

we win and they put their thumb on the scale.
We must do something about the current state where a Dem needs 5% or 10% more votes to have a chance.

[iluvtennis]

28. +++ agree. One vote, one person.

[Bettie]

50. And ALL of those people

get to vote!

[we can do it]

11. Enough of the shitty campaign bullshit.

Take it somewhere else.

[Cha]

27. BULL on your "shitty campaigns".

[yardwork]

51. Did you read the OP?

[lapucelle]

52. Isn't "shitty campaign" a talking point Republicans use to distract

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from real problems like voter suppression, misogyny, investigative double standards, whataboutism, and unchecked foreign interference?

[oasis]

2. I had hopes Russ would beat Ron Johnson, who is one of the slimiest

GOP members of congress. Hillary's loss stunned me so that I paid little attention to anything else going on election night.

[Scarsdale]

13. Russ should have won, easily.

Johnson had lots of $$$ from his father in law, too. I wonder if Russ will run again?

[NewJeffCT]

34. Russ lost to Johnson

by a lot more than Hillary lost to Trump in Wisconsin. Maybe he should have visited the state more often?

[questionseverything]

4. about those machines

http://www.wisconsinelectionintegrity.org/racinecountymiscounts

The highest error rate was in the City of Racine’s Ward 26, where election officials failed to count 6.1% of the votes, even during the recount. More than 1 in every 17 voters were disenfranchised in that ward. Detailed results are here, for each candidate and ward.

Wisconsin Elections Commission officials believe the voting machines failed to detect the votes because voters had marked ballots with types of ink that the machines could not detect. After other counties hand-counted the recount and discovered the high rates of missed votes, the WEC decertified the machines (prohibited their future use in Wisconsin) in late September.

County Clerk Wendy Christensen has not yet publicly explained why the county board of canvassers chose twice to certify the results as 'correct and true' without checking, despite the obviously suspicious number of missing votes.

"We needed the manual count to get the truth,” said Village of Pleasant Prairie voter Liz Whitlock, who was among the recount observers who could see the voting machines missing votes.

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election integrity activists counted 6 precincts in racine

in 1 precinct trump had 10 votes that were uncounted and hillary had 5 uncounted

the other 5 precinct had hillarys uncounted at almost exactly double trumps uncounted...and at bigger numbers...it is all in the link I posted if ya dig thru it

hc didn't lose,we just don't get an honest vote count

[Bfd]

6. Truth.

Excellent post
Thanks

[questionseverything]

7. i truely believe most of our problems have come about because

we do not count our own votes in an open and transparent manner

we need politicians that demand it, no matter how long it takes

[Wellstone ruled]

8. Heard this same story from

someone who was at the same scene. Bag Trash bags in the dumpster outside the clerks office and the same in the County to the North.

[Bfd]

5. Imagine how far forward America would be 2 yrs into an HRC Presidency.

Citizens United..kneecapped
Supreme Court..fair & functional
Voter Registration Act restored
National Voter Holiday
Fairness Doctrine restored
DACA & Immigration improved
High Tech Security
Renewable Energy
Tighter Environmental Regulations
Solar Grid advanced in the world
Putin in a narrower box
Puerto Rico would have rebuilt with dignity & generous assistance
America's World Allies tighten their unified front
Standards for Human Rights Laws Increased
Infrastructure brought to necessary standards & forward into the future
Wall Street manipulating curbed
HRC's Cabinet would have been the most qualified forward thinking & positive force to send America strong, healthy, well educated & prepared for the next century.

...and much more from Her detailed platform, & promise to this Nation she dedicated her adult life to improving.

[john657]

21. All this would be predicated on the fact that the Dems

held the House and Senate, which wasn't true, the pubs would be in control of those 2 chambers.

[Bfd]

36. Ya. Well then i spose its just a damned good thing she wasn't fought harder for over Trump.

"Since she wouldn't have made a damned bit of difference than what he's done anyway!

Yup good thing so many contributed to her demise since she'd never made a difference anyway.
Not one damned good reason to give her a shot at it cuz, ya know .....

Whew guess we dodged a bullet there, in that case."

Bullcrap.
We would not have Brett Kavanaugh OR Gorsuch.
Those 100 or so Federal judges Trump's been appointing would have been Fair & Reasonable intead of Hard Right Trump loyalists.

The old meme of "Nope, HRC wouldn't have made a damned inch of difference. It would have been too hard for her, she'd never have gotten a thing accomplished", is Bullshit.
That's the sour grapes politics talking, & sorry, but that old talking point is clearly long due to be retired.

Our world would be thriving under her care.
It is dying under Trump & that would not be happening were he not be sitting as head of power.

She warned us.
Pity some failed to listen


Truth

[john657]

37. She would have gotten some of the things you listed done,

but many others would have been blocked by the pubs.

[Bfd]

38. So what. So its no big deal that she wasn't fought harder for when it came down to the wire?

Christ.

[john657]

39. i didn't say that so quit putting words in my mouth. n/t

[Bfd]

42. Quit demeaning her worth.

Quit minimizing her enormous value to good governance of this nation

[john657]

44. That's what you think I'm doing?

All I'm doing is pointing out the reality of the situation.

[erpowers]

9. I Believe Him

I have always believed that the reason Hilary Clinton lost so many of the swing states was voter suppression. I think she would have at least won Michigan, Pennsylvania, Florida, and Wisconsin if not for voter suppression.


How were votes thrown out during early voting? What did people supposedly do wrong?

[triron]

20. If voter 'suppression' includes the Russian hackers deleting registered voters, etc.

[elocs]

10. Wisconsin has suffered the consequences of too many on the Left choosing not to vote in 2010.

In 2010 the entire state of Wisconsin was controlled by the Democrats. In that year's midterms too many Democrats and those on the Left do what they so often do in midterms--they skipped voting. Since Democrats controlled the state there was no voter suppression. But Republicans voted like it was their duty and Scott Walker received nearly 90% of the vote that went to John McCain in 2008 while his opponent, Tom Barrett, only got around 65% of the vote that went to Obama.
As a result, Walker was elected and the state flipped to Republican control.
Since 2010 was a census year, the Republicans got to reapportion and gerrymander the state when they took over, assuring that they maintain their power. Then they set about passing a voter ID law and did whatever they could do to suppress the vote.
Choices and consequences. When too many on the Left choose not to vote, bad things happen as a result.

[beachbum bob]

12. We can't say we didn't know what was going to happen.

It's our own fault we didn't insure our voters had all the proper IDs for starters

[triron]

19. That's BS. Russians still changed the votes.

[john657]

23. They did?

Do you have the links proving that happened?

[UCmeNdc]

29. There is a systematic voter suppression effort on going in US politics.

[blm]

15. Then Feingold should have led an awareness crusade and take it to the news cameras

Take it to the streets, all over the nation. He has a voice and name recognition.

[jodymarie aimee]

16. I would not presume to tell him what to do

but you go ahead !!!

He has been busy in Africa...he does have a Legit Pac and is very involved in America, too...

[blm]

31. Not posted out of malice, but, of desperation over this issue

which prevents Democratic votes from being cast and counted which prevents every other issue from being addressed.

[SMC22307]

32. Why would it have to be telling him what to do...

why not view it as starting a discussion to problem solve? Offering a possible solution?

[jodymarie aimee]

48. you first !!

I take it you don't live in Wisconsin..

[SMC22307]

49. I don't have access to Feingold, but you're saying you do.

Seems like a missed opportunity.

[JCMach1]

17. Happened to me in TX this year, but I caught it

Our country (especially MSM) has been completely ignoring this and almost every other issue related to voting irregularities... And, until it directly affects you, you don't notice it.

[triron]

18. I think they had ample help from the Russian hackers.

[john657]

24. You think?

But do you have actual proof that happened?

[triron]

33. Mueller's last indictment. No such thing as proof for this. Only evidence.

[john657]

35. Huh?

Evidence is proof and so far, there is no proof that the Russians flipped any votes.

[Bfd]

40. We know a minimum of what Mueller already knows.

Can't say he doesn't have proof.

[john657]

46. The reverse is also true,

can't say he has proof either.

[triron]

43. Whatever. There is no proof they didn't.

What constitutes "proof" anyway. The only proof I'm aware of is in mathematics.

[john657]

45. So do you have any links to any proof? n/t

[triron]

22. Yeah and we would have the majority in the Senate.

[UCmeNdc]

25. There is no reason in the world to have so many problems with a voting system that the US has.

There is only one reason in the world you keep a voting system like the United States has in place, and that is to cheat democratic rule.

It starts with voting machines that cannot recount the vote accurately and be verified clearly. The United States has third world types of voter registration methods.

Why?

[DFW]

26. I believe him

I talked with him for about half an hour in July 2016, and at the time, he had no doubt he would recapture his Senate seat. All polling pointed toward it, too. The fact that he never even came close (according to the official tally, that is) just stinks like a barrel of rotting fish.

[mountain grammy]

30. I believe that to be true.

I've always believed Obama won by a much larger margin. We do not have fair and free elections in America.

[Bfd]

41. K & R

[xmas74]

47. A friend's son tried to vote in Racine in 2016

And was repeatedly given the runaround. They said his license was invalid(it wasn't), they refused his military ID and then they said he was at the wrong polling station. He went to where they sent him and was told to go back to the first place.


I don't remember how it all ended. I remember her posting all day long on Facebook about how he was on leave and they were screwing him over.