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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 09:57 AM Oct 2018

Trump denies promising he'd donate $1m if @SenWarren could prove she's Native American

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Trump flatly and falsely denies ever promising he'd donate $1m if @SenWarren could prove she's Native American, as she now has: "Who cares? I didn't say that. Nope, you better read it again." https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/411403-warren-reminds-trump-he-offered-1-million-if-she-proved-her-native-american




Trump: I would offer Warren $1M to prove her Native American heritage

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/395728-trump-i-would-offer-warren-1-million-to-prove-her-native-american

“I promise you I’ll do this, you know those little kits they sell on television for $2? Learn your heritage,” Trump said.

“I’m going to get one of those little kits and in the middle of the debate, when she proclaims she’s of Indian heritage — because her mother said she has high cheekbones, that’s her only evidence," Trump continued.

“We will take that little kit, we have to do it gently because we’re in the "Me Too" generation, we have to be very gentle,” Trump said mocking the movement that seeks to expose sexual misconduct in media, entertainment and politics.

“We will very gently take that kit and we will slowly toss it, hoping it doesn’t hit her and injure her arm, even though it only weighs probably 2 oz,” he said.

“And we will say, ‘I will give you a million dollars, paid for by Trump, to your favorite charity if you take the test and it shows you’re an Indian,” Trump said. “And we’ll see what she does. I have a feeling she will say no but we will hold it for the debates.”
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Trump denies promising he'd donate $1m if @SenWarren could prove she's Native American (Original Post) Miles Archer Oct 2018 OP
Sure enough dalton99a Oct 2018 #1
So, let's hope she holds him to this pledge. The media won't. Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #2
The media in the US is often a joke. Often the media supports those who they think will somehow RKP5637 Oct 2018 #4
We watch MSNBC and we have our favorites INdemo Oct 2018 #15
Sadly, it's a brainwashed population and far too many Americans still don't IMO comprehend what is RKP5637 Oct 2018 #48
CNN is better than most, but still not open for outright confrontation. Its the $$$$. olegramps Oct 2018 #33
Yep, sadly that's the way it is with so much of the media today, it's the $$$$'s. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2018 #49
They'll let him slide dalton99a Oct 2018 #17
He is angry that she has proven him wrong. madaboutharry Oct 2018 #3
Total slime. Such a fucken loser. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2018 #5
The republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief is lying again Achilleaze Oct 2018 #6
If you can stand watching the Orange Anus he says it at around 2:15 on this video. CentralMass Oct 2018 #7
yep, he's got the weasel words in there 0rganism Oct 2018 #8
I saw about to poing that out - Ms. Toad Oct 2018 #23
Video malaise Oct 2018 #9
Nice !! Hope this gets spread far and wide ! alittlelark Oct 2018 #13
It's all over cable this owning malaise Oct 2018 #14
+1. And he said it on the REAL news station! dalton99a Oct 2018 #18
"Paid for by Trump" MrsCoffee Oct 2018 #20
From Fox malaise Oct 2018 #21
trump can't afford a million! pretzel4gore Oct 2018 #10
He doesn't have the dough until the next check from Pootie FakeNoose Oct 2018 #36
Trump's moved on ...ho hum! pretzel4gore Oct 2018 #46
maybe he can ask russia or saudi arabia for it ? JI7 Oct 2018 #50
A reporter needs to play the tape of him saying it and PearliePoo2 Oct 2018 #11
Senator Warren needs to make him put his money where his mouth is. llmart Oct 2018 #12
I think the $$ should be donated to Democratic Party to help with expenses to get dems elected in2herbs Oct 2018 #42
CNN showed a clip of him saying EXACTLY what Ms. Warren claimed he did. spanone Oct 2018 #16
Liar, liar DJT marieo1 Oct 2018 #19
Tell our children not to lie... JohnnyRingo Oct 2018 #31
Didn't he sue Bill Maher over a similar fake pledge by Maher. She should take him to court. Johonny Oct 2018 #22
Maher got away with it because he's a comedian. JohnnyRingo Oct 2018 #32
Trump has two choices: be a dirtbag liar, or admit he was wrong. Ohioboy Oct 2018 #24
This will be the so called news on all the networks elmac Oct 2018 #25
Outdated, politically incorrect, and wildly-ironic term for trump's actions, here: Paladin Oct 2018 #26
You're right. That's so inappropriate. JohnnyRingo Oct 2018 #37
I never missed an issue, even when P.J. O'Rourke was editor. Paladin Oct 2018 #39
I still appreciate O'Rourke's writing when I can find it. JohnnyRingo Oct 2018 #45
time for democratic political ads to run this clip reinforcing trumps and gOP's willingness to lie beachbum bob Oct 2018 #27
This is the language of a well practiced liar, con-man, swindler... CincyDem Oct 2018 #28
Unfortunately, this changes nothing. LonePirate Oct 2018 #29
The Guy Is an Ignorant Dick. The_Counsel Oct 2018 #30
Liz Warren already took the DNA test - she's proven she does have native American ancestors FakeNoose Oct 2018 #38
More of President Baby's "What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening." Tanuki Oct 2018 #34
He is a born liar. Blue_true Oct 2018 #35
we could set our clocks by his timely denials. nt Javaman Oct 2018 #40
Remember when Bill Maher offered five million to anyone who could prove that dhol82 Oct 2018 #41
Looks like she did Big Chief Bullshitter. Historic NY Oct 2018 #43
He said she has to prove it via a kit he throws at her in order to get the million. Garrett78 Oct 2018 #44
His ass is flat broke. He doesn't have $1m to his name Mr. Big Oct 2018 #47
republicans who slop up Dirty Donny's lies are eventually Achilleaze Oct 2018 #51
She needs to play into his ego mconnors Oct 2018 #52

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
4. The media in the US is often a joke. Often the media supports those who they think will somehow
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 10:10 AM
Oct 2018

put the most butter on their bread. For the most part, investigative reporting flew out the window years ago.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
15. We watch MSNBC and we have our favorites
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 10:41 AM
Oct 2018

but during election time We have Time Warner,(AT&T) Comcast,Disney and all the other media owners that are Right wing talking heads bring out their scripts and throw in those little tid bits against the Democrats.
True there are shows like TRM show but she has her limits and lines not to cross..
These Media mafia owners will make sure all those Republican strategists find their way on to the shows and spread their Bullshit which is just that.


They will have these polls of maybe 100-500 that are adjusted for the Republicans and producers make sure those are broadcast and then the debate begins ..

Just like the Senate races in Texas,Tenn. ND..I don't believe these polls and now they are bashing O'Rourke for raising so much money..They say its selfish of him to do son when he is not spending it and he gonna lose..yep that's their talking point and that's my pponit of how desperate the Fascists have become.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
48. Sadly, it's a brainwashed population and far too many Americans still don't IMO comprehend what is
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 04:25 PM
Oct 2018

going on in the US.

madaboutharry

(40,211 posts)
3. He is angry that she has proven him wrong.
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 10:09 AM
Oct 2018

Look at his face. What a dirtbag. He is seething that she proved him a jerk.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
6. The republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief is lying again
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 10:11 AM
Oct 2018

as always. And republicans luv to wallow in the falsehoods. That tells you everything you need to know.

0rganism

(23,953 posts)
8. yep, he's got the weasel words in there
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 10:14 AM
Oct 2018

> “And we will say, ‘I will give you a million dollars, paid for by Trump, to your favorite charity if you take the test and it shows you’re an Indian,”

he (royal "we" assumed) will say it after he throws the hypothetical test kit at her gently.

any honorable or decent person would own up and pay up if possible. Trump is neither honorable nor decent, just making up racist fantasy stories for his angry mob rally.

Ms. Toad

(34,070 posts)
23. I saw about to poing that out -
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 11:14 AM
Oct 2018

He posed a hypothetical - and as part of that hypothetical described what he would say and do if she ran for president.

My spouse talks that way all the time - drives me nuts since I can't always tell when she's reciting facts and when she's imagining what she might do in an imaginary situation.

 

pretzel4gore

(8,146 posts)
10. trump can't afford a million!
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 10:17 AM
Oct 2018

I betchew! he aint a billionaire! he maybe aint even a millionaire! He farts. Trump farted! That's his only skill, and ....give credit to nature, not the Donald! he's a goddam liar (I can't believe I'm referring to Potus!) Potus is leader of the free world! But this bullyboy farts and lies! And lies and farts...vice versa! The noose media makes it nice

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
36. He doesn't have the dough until the next check from Pootie
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 11:50 AM
Oct 2018

But you know what? Liz Warren can just say, "That's OK you don't have to give $1 million, just donate $100,000 and release your tax returns. We'll call it even."

Do you think that would ever happen?

 

pretzel4gore

(8,146 posts)
46. Trump's moved on ...ho hum!
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 03:47 PM
Oct 2018

The dupe! He skates away from anything counter to his comfort/ease and his media bumboys abet him! He is potus so that's his no limit credit card. ...

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
11. A reporter needs to play the tape of him saying it and
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 10:18 AM
Oct 2018

then ask, "Is this you?"

I don't think there are press briefings anymore, so SHS won't get asked and won't have to lie her ass off.

God, he such a fucking, lying piece of shit.

Hurry Mr. Mueller!




llmart

(15,539 posts)
12. Senator Warren needs to make him put his money where his mouth is.
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 10:21 AM
Oct 2018

She should also pick Planned Parenthood as the recipient or maybe ACLU. Maybe then we could see his orange blob of a head explode.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
19. Liar, liar DJT
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 10:48 AM
Oct 2018

I heard him say he'd donate a million - how can we believe anything he says. He's the biggest liar I've ever seen. How can we teach our kids not to lie when DJT does it all the time.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
22. Didn't he sue Bill Maher over a similar fake pledge by Maher. She should take him to court.
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 11:08 AM
Oct 2018

Just like he took Bill Maher.

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
32. Maher got away with it because he's a comedian.
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 11:46 AM
Oct 2018

A judge determined that it was obviously a joke. Maybe Trump will also get a suit dismissed because he's obviously a walking joke.

Ohioboy

(3,243 posts)
24. Trump has two choices: be a dirtbag liar, or admit he was wrong.
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 11:21 AM
Oct 2018

Dirtbag liar is his default setting, and in his mind he's never wrong. Warren needs to push this. Trump would if the shoe was on the other foot.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
25. This will be the so called news on all the networks
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 11:28 AM
Oct 2018

when they should be talking about things that really matter like the fascists attack on the safety nets and the rich tax giveaway. Why does our party fall for this smoke and mirror tactic. Look at how much energy President Obama wasted on the birth certificate BS, when he, our party could be gutting the fascists daily with things the matter.

Paladin

(28,257 posts)
26. Outdated, politically incorrect, and wildly-ironic term for trump's actions, here:
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 11:28 AM
Oct 2018

It used to be called "Indian Giving."

I'm confident that Senator Warren is aware of it.

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
37. You're right. That's so inappropriate.
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 11:52 AM
Oct 2018

Which is exactly why The National Lampoon would have run with it. They'd have Ms Warren saying: "what are you, some kind of fucking Indian giver?". And I would have laughed my ass off.

I miss that magazine.

Paladin

(28,257 posts)
39. I never missed an issue, even when P.J. O'Rourke was editor.
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 11:59 AM
Oct 2018

That was back when O'Rourke had plenty of mind-altering substances at his disposal, and was a funny guy---instead of being a right-wing funny guy wanna-be.

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
45. I still appreciate O'Rourke's writing when I can find it.
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 03:08 PM
Oct 2018

He's far from a Tea Party Trump republican, but more of a traditional conservative which is pretty benign these days. I liked him as Rolling Stone Magazine's travel editor for years as well.

There's a great Netflix biopic about Michael Kenney and the National Lampoon called "A Futile And Stupid Gesture". Really brought back memories:

https://www.avclub.com/national-lampoon-biopic-a-futile-and-stupid-gesture-lau-1822409063

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
27. time for democratic political ads to run this clip reinforcing trumps and gOP's willingness to lie
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 11:34 AM
Oct 2018

without regard to consequences. Make all republicans defend lying

CincyDem

(6,358 posts)
28. This is the language of a well practiced liar, con-man, swindler...
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 11:36 AM
Oct 2018


...but, IMHO, he didn't actually say "I'll give you a million bucks if you take the test". The clear intention is to tell his believers "I am so certain of this that I will risk $1 million of my own money - that's how certain I am". And I'm sure that's what they heard.

But in his typical slippery, slimy, purposeful language - honed by years of swindling and weaselling out of contracts - what he really said is "when I'm in a debate with her, I'll offer her a million bucks to take the test".

His bullchit defense now. I didn't say I would do it. I said I would say that I would do it if we had a debate. We haven't had a debate and, even though I said I would say it, I didn't actually say it.

And this is how total dipshits come understand their fearless leader. A guy who frames his promises in a hypothetical future structure so he can always welch on them.

Such as asshat.

LonePirate

(13,420 posts)
29. Unfortunately, this changes nothing.
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 11:39 AM
Oct 2018

The left already knows he is a serial liar. The right couldn’t care less if he lies. The middle tunes out all of this since it has no direct impact on their lives.

The_Counsel

(1,660 posts)
30. The Guy Is an Ignorant Dick.
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 11:39 AM
Oct 2018

* First of all, tossing a DNA swab at a debate opponent does nothing. How soon can a result come back? Certainly not before the end of said debate. Lab rats help me out here...

* Secondly...no, it would not hurt Sen. Warren's arm. It WILL hurt Trump's feelings, though, to prove him wrong. Thus, his reaction here.

* Thirdly, since when would a DNA test offend the #MeToo movement? Trump is clearly buggin'...

* Four. Warren never said she was Indian. She said she has Native American heritage. For India, you want that rather large diamond-shaped country halfway around the world. "Indian..." Really...?

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
38. Liz Warren already took the DNA test - she's proven she does have native American ancestors
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 11:57 AM
Oct 2018

... so it no longer matters what the orange asshole said.

Now what matters is what's he going to do. Will he stop lying about her and insulting her?
Will he admit that he was wrong and apologize to her?
It takes a big man to do that, and we all know that he's not a big man.



dhol82

(9,353 posts)
41. Remember when Bill Maher offered five million to anyone who could prove that
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 12:08 PM
Oct 2018

dump was not fathered but an orangutan?
The shitgibbon actually sued to get the five mil and showed his birth certificate.



But there was an actual suit that was thrown out of court.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
44. He said she has to prove it via a kit he throws at her in order to get the million.
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 12:49 PM
Oct 2018

That's what he'll argue. Anyway, this won't have any bearing on how people view Trump. Minds are made up.

 

Mr. Big

(45 posts)
47. His ass is flat broke. He doesn't have $1m to his name
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 03:51 PM
Oct 2018

He's probably badly leveraged and trying to get out of the holes he's been digging himself.

Only problem is, the holes are bigger and better and bestest holes ever seen. No-one has escaped from my holes!

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
51. republicans who slop up Dirty Donny's lies are eventually
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 04:50 PM
Oct 2018

going to find a lie TOO BIG TO IGNORE.

In the meantime, as they uncritically swallow republican lies they are polluting their souls.

mconnors

(19 posts)
52. She needs to play into his ego
Mon Oct 15, 2018, 05:36 PM
Oct 2018

Sen Warren needs to say something like, I knew all along he would not pay because he doesn't have the money plus he never keeps his word. I just wanted to see him put his foot in his own mouth trying to weasel himself out of it. ( no offense to weasels) I played him just for all the good laughs that I and my family will enjoy for years!!

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