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Takket

(21,574 posts)
Sun Oct 21, 2018, 10:04 PM Oct 2018

Drumpf is trying to erase the concept of "transgender" from existance

This is the modern day equivalent of Hitler burning the books...............

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-lgbt/trump-administration-trying-to-define-transgender-out-of-existence-ny-times-idUSKCN1MV0TO

The Department of Health and Human Services has undertaken an effort across several government departments to establish a legal definition of sex under Title IX, the federal civil rights law that bans discrimination on the basis of sex, the Times said, citing a government memo that it obtained.

That definition would be as either male or female, unchangeable, and determined by the genitals a person is born with, the Times reported.

Such an interpretation would reverse the expansion of transgender rights that took place under the previous administration of President Barack Obama.

It would also set back aspirations for tolerance and equality among the estimated 0.7 percent of the population that identifies as transgender. Most transgender people live with a profound sense that the gender assigned to them at birth was wrong and transition to the opposite sex, while others live a non-binary or gender fluid life.

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Drumpf is trying to erase the concept of "transgender" from existance (Original Post) Takket Oct 2018 OP
This is bullshit...UNCONSTITUTIONAL FirstLight Oct 2018 #1
It's actually not unconstitutional, unfortunately. Ms. Toad Oct 2018 #2
Aside from the massive human rights violations here cagefreesoylentgreen Oct 2018 #3
Red meat to the same people who cheered on the Iraq War to bring on the "end times" ck4829 Oct 2018 #4
And as with abortion rights, Republicans in power don't actually give a shit. Garrett78 Oct 2018 #5

FirstLight

(13,360 posts)
1. This is bullshit...UNCONSTITUTIONAL
Sun Oct 21, 2018, 11:23 PM
Oct 2018

But since when did that matter to this Administration or Congress?

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
2. It's actually not unconstitutional, unfortunately.
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 12:29 AM
Oct 2018

It is only very recently that trans individuals have had any rights at all. Many still cannot have the gender marker on their birth certificates changed (in Ohio, for example). Most are able to get changes in their social security documents - and use the social security documents to leverage changes for the purpose of passports.

But - as far as the constitution - gender identity is not a protected class. Heck - it's not even certain that sexual orientation is a protected class (it was implied in Obergefell - but not expressly stated).

Gender identity has always been the ugly stepchild - even among far too many LGBT individuals. We have, until very recently, been able to sacrifice our trans siblings when it comes to job protection bills - for example. Because including gender identity would likely make the bill DOA, so we ask them to sit in the back of the bus and wait their turn.

Things changed under Obama, but only with the strength of executive orders (i.e. nothing durable). All of this can easily be undone - without any legal impedimnet - the same way.

3. Aside from the massive human rights violations here
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 07:53 AM
Oct 2018

Intersex XY women and XX men exist. What’s Mango Unchained going to do? Force gender reassignment on them? I wouldn’t put it beyond them.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
5. And as with abortion rights, Republicans in power don't actually give a shit.
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 08:09 AM
Oct 2018

It's just fodder for the base. That, of course, doesn't make it any less problematic. We must erase the concept of right wing ideology from existence.

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