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sheshe2

(83,770 posts)
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 06:40 PM Oct 2018

Our complicit media


During World War 2 there were two sides. One side was filled with Nazis, Nazi supporters and enablers. The other side was fighting to stop the destruction that was being caused by Nazis and their supporters and enablers. The press in this country was unlikely suggesting in any way that they were two sides of the same coin. There may have been some equivalent of Storm Front but I would have to assume that there was no overt support of Nazis. There were unlikely false equivalences.

Upon descending the escalator at Trump Tower Trump began fanning the same flames that were exploited by Hitler in Nazi Germany. It was clear as a bell. It was not accidental it was intentional.

The press reported on all of this with some degree of shock but they never really confronted what was taking place. After all Hillary Clinton had decided to use a private email server which was suggested to her to not do but it was not illegal. Not being technologically proficient Hillary decided that would be the easiest way for her to function. That decision opened the door to create a false equivalence between the white supremacist rhetoric and the choice to use a private server. Although in the case of Hillary Clinton if it hadn’t been the email server they would have fixated on something else.

The media waited excitedly for every new email that was exposed and although there was nothing nefarious in them they parsed out every word making a big nothing seem world shattering while moving on from everything Trump was saying and doing and not doing enough to expose all that is known of his past. They treated everything that pertained to Hillary Clinton hysterically and they treated everything that pertained to Trump as gossip. The press was treated the election like a reality show. If the press had just fully looked into Trump's past it might have been enough to stop him from becoming president - but her emails.

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They saw two sides to the presidential campaign and today they see two sides when they talk about the democrats and the republicans. There are two sides but those two sides are not equal. One side is supporting Democracy and the other side is supporting Fascism. They are the same two sides that were present in World War 2 but the media wasn’t confused and they didn’t sit on the fence and they didn’t help to enable Fascism.


You should read it all: http://www.thepeoplesview.net/main/2018/10/22/our-complicit-media

They need to be held accountable.
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Our complicit media (Original Post) sheshe2 Oct 2018 OP
stop it. just stop it. Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #1
complicit is correct Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2018 #2
Thank you, Hermit-The-Prog. sheshe2 Oct 2018 #4
I look for your posts Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2018 #5
Lol sheshe2 Oct 2018 #6
K&R Scurrilous Oct 2018 #3

Grasswire2

(13,570 posts)
1. stop it. just stop it.
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 07:23 PM
Oct 2018

"The media."

"The press."

Steam is coming out of my ears.

Our diligent watchdog free press is just about the only check we have right now on tyranny, as the three co-equal branches of government are not functioning as the founders intended.

Who the hell is -- EVERY FREAKING DAY -- digging for information, standing up to withering criticisms and attacks, working with deep professionalism, getting the news and bringing it to us EVERY DAY?

Those who talk like this must not be seeing what I see.

What a danger it is to refuse to acknowledge and support reporters right now.

That said, differentiating between reporters and talking heads is important.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,346 posts)
2. complicit is correct
Mon Oct 22, 2018, 08:58 PM
Oct 2018

Some news media outlets began to wake up before it was too late; most did not. The M$M still engages in false equivalencies just to promote ratings and a "horse race" instead of an election based on issues.

Note the absence of tv news in the following. Note also the dates on those mostly op-eds. "Our diligent watchdog free press" was busily titillating viewers to boost ad revenue while fascists took over. The free press that actually covered the bias wasn't as easily accessed as clicking the tv remote -- far more people were subjected to false equivalence snow-jobs than facts.

Confessions of a Clinton reporter: The media's 5 unspoken rules for covering Hillary
https://www.vox.com/2015/7/6/8900143/hillary-clinton-reporting-rules

The Hillary Clinton email story is out of control
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-hillary-clinton-email-story-is-out-of-control/2016/09/08/692947d0-75fc-11e6-8149-b8d05321db62_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.bdc831304f2d

How False Equivalence Is Distorting the 2016 Election Coverage
https://www.thenation.com/article/how-false-equivalence-is-distorting-the-2016-election-coverage/

Last year, no candidate got more negative media coverage than Hillary Clinton
https://www.vox.com/2016/6/20/11949860/media-coverage-hillary-clinton

No Comparison
The press needs to stop grasping for false equivalencies between Trump and Clinton.
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2016-08-30/stop-the-false-media-balance-between-trump-and-clinton

While Ignoring Trump’s Hidden Health Records, Biased Press Jumps On Clinton Overheating
https://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/11/ignoring-trumps-hidden-health-records-biased-press-jumps-clinton-overheating.html

The Squalid Case Against Hillary and Her Emails
https://www.newsweek.com/squalid-case-against-hillary-and-her-emails-492017

In NYT’s Hillary Clinton Coverage, An Obsession With ‘Clouds’ And ‘Shadows’
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/new-york-times-cloud-shadow-clinton-coverage

President Obama: the media is completely failing to hold Donald Trump to account
https://www.vox.com/2016/9/13/12904824/obama-donald-trump-media

Why Donald Trump gets a pass
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/why-donald-trump-gets-a-pass-228009

Abbreviated Pundit Round-up: A critique of the media that stings because it's true
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/9/14/1569792/-Abbreviated-Pundit-Round-up-A-critique-of-the-media-that-stings-because-it-s-true

Obama to Media: ‘You Don’t Grade the Presidency on a Curve’
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/09/obama-to-media-dont-grade-the-presidency-on-a-curve.html?gtm=top&gtm=bottom

Moderation in Pursuit of Truth Is the Media’s Vice
But neither NBC News nor The New York Times public editor knows it
https://billmoyers.com/story/journalism-truth-election-fact-check-debates/

The Abnormalization of Hillary Clinton
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/09/the-abnormalization-of-hillary-clinton.html?gtm=bottom&gtm=top

Most of the media is ignoring the Trump Foundation’s shady work. Stephen Colbert isn’t.
https://www.vox.com/2016/9/16/12940264/stephen-colbert-trump-foundation-late-show

sheshe2

(83,770 posts)
4. Thank you, Hermit-The-Prog.
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 12:16 AM
Oct 2018

I appreciate all your links. I am to tired to fight right now. The media was complicit, that is a fact. Some are trying to make up for some of that now.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,346 posts)
5. I look for your posts
Tue Oct 23, 2018, 12:30 AM
Oct 2018

I have more links that support your OP, just figured it was a big enough pile.

Thanks for your interesting and informative posts!

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