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Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 08:59 PM Oct 2018

Did you watch Eddie Glaude on Deadline WH today?

He was very eloquent and the words came from deep within. It was an insightful perspective about 2016....


[link:https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/10/31/msnbc_eddie_glaude_i_overestimated_white_people_i_didnt_think_they_would_put_trump_in_office.html|

Transcript:

EDDIE GLAUDE JR.: I was critical of Hillary Clinton and get hemmed up on Twitter every day for criticizing Donald Trump because people believe I'm responsible, in part, for Donald Trump being in the White House. What I did wrong in 2016 is I overestimated white people. I didn't think white people would put him in office.

So here he is running around the country appealing to our darker angels, appealing to our hatred and fears and I'm supposed to believe that Delaware County in Ohio is not going to vote for him. That the suburbs in Pennsylvania aren't going to vote for him? Aren't going to vote for him in Florida?

So part of what I do know is that it's going to require young people, it's going to require people of color, it's going to require African-Americans like they showed up in Alabama and Virginia. It's going to require us to turn out in massive numbers because I made a mistake in 2016. And the evidence is not in yet. I know it sounds cynical, but this man doubled down after 11 beautiful people were shot and killed while worshiping. Jefferson Town, Kentucky, murdered, shot in the back of the head for what? For what? Some ideal of whiteness that Donald Trump represents and spews out of his mouth every single day.


VIDEO at link. Please watch.
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Did you watch Eddie Glaude on Deadline WH today? (Original Post) Grasswire2 Oct 2018 OP
No Eddie, you're not getting a pass by blaming white folks for Trump's win. oasis Oct 2018 #1
I don't know how Eddie voted. Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #3
He said in 2016 that he would not vote for Hillary EffieBlack Oct 2018 #7
+1 oasis Oct 2018 #10
Another one without any vision. Cha Nov 2018 #21
Glaude's on t.v.with a microphone. He expects us to believe oasis Oct 2018 #9
I do. And yes he was on MSNBC constantly during 2016, spouting shite about Hillary. See here. OnDoutside Nov 2018 #30
Yeah Thanks oasis.. Eddie G is Not Cha Nov 2018 #20
I saw that. But White people did not put trump in the White House. I did not vote for trump. wasupaloopa Oct 2018 #2
The "I will vote my principles" and "No difference between parties" Blue_true Oct 2018 #5
Not all white people ... EffieBlack Oct 2018 #8
+ 100X JoeOtterbein Oct 2018 #13
Not all white people of course. Eddie Glaud is a perfect example of that. brush Oct 2018 #16
Eddie is correct. JoeOtterbein Oct 2018 #4
Credit Eddie for his fair share of Democratic "no shows". nt oasis Oct 2018 #11
This is why Glaude and a bunch of prominent Blackademics... Cha Nov 2018 #23
"Prof" Glaude couldn't bring himself to vote for Hillary, who is oasis Nov 2018 #33
Well, THIS college educated leftynyc Nov 2018 #26
Sorry, Eddie - but you don't get a pass by blaming white people EffieBlack Oct 2018 #6
do we know where he said this Grasswire2 Oct 2018 #12
He said it on Morning Joe EffieBlack Oct 2018 #15
He said it on Nicolle Wallace's show, too DeminPennswoods Nov 2018 #19
... Cha Nov 2018 #24
I'm so glad he has finally taken responsibility for his vote ecstatic Oct 2018 #14
He did NOT take responsibility leftynyc Nov 2018 #27
Cue the Wayback Machine Marcuse Oct 2018 #17
Glaude speaks of mobilizing and organizing "to bring pressure oasis Nov 2018 #36
There is no way to convince Trump voters to switch if we shame them every time renate Nov 2018 #18
He Wasn't A Trump Voter ProfessorGAC Nov 2018 #32
Saw it DeminPennswoods Nov 2018 #22
This right up there right here. phylny Nov 2018 #25
Same here leftynyc Nov 2018 #29
He's not nearly as bad as Cornell West ... LenaBaby61 Nov 2018 #28
What have Glaude, West and Sarandon in common ? All publicly asked people not to vote for Hillary. OnDoutside Nov 2018 #31
Eddie Glade/Sarandon/Jill Stein got us Kavanaugh/Gorsuch. oasis Nov 2018 #34
+1 OnDoutside Nov 2018 #35
We need to ask Eddie if he is happy LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2022 #37

oasis

(49,382 posts)
1. No Eddie, you're not getting a pass by blaming white folks for Trump's win.
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:03 PM
Oct 2018

Flakes like you proclaimed "I won't vote for Hillary", and dampened Democratic enthusiasm. Less votes for us because of "principled" pompous jellyfish like you.

Own it.

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
3. I don't know how Eddie voted.
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:10 PM
Oct 2018

Has he said?

I don't remember seeing him until recently. Was he high visibility during 2016?

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
7. He said in 2016 that he would not vote for Hillary
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:20 PM
Oct 2018

He claimed it didn't matter because he lived in a blue state. But surely many people who lived in other states heard him and saw that as permission not to vote for her either - after all, even the smart black guy from Princeton wasn't going to vote for her.

oasis

(49,382 posts)
9. Glaude's on t.v.with a microphone. He expects us to believe
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:33 PM
Oct 2018

he didn't influence a single person to stay away from the polls on Election Day.

Prof. Glaude.

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
30. I do. And yes he was on MSNBC constantly during 2016, spouting shite about Hillary. See here.
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 08:09 AM
Nov 2018
My Democratic Problem With Voting for Hillary Clinton


By EDDIE S. GLAUDE, JR. July 12, 2016
IDEAS
Glaude is the William S. Tod Professor of Religion and African American Studies at Princeton University and the author of Democracy in Black.
I am not voting for Hillary Clinton, regardless of her endorsement by Bernie Sanders. My decision isn’t because of the scandal around her emails or because of some concern over her character. My reasons are pretty straightforward. I don’t agree with her ideologically.

Democratic values centered on economic and racial justice shape my own politics. I’m not convinced those values shape hers. Nothing Clinton says or intends to do if elected will fundamentally transform the circumstances of the most vulnerable in this country—even with her concessions to the Sanders campaign. Like the majority of Democratic politicians these days, she is a corporate Democrat intent on maintaining the status quo. And I have had enough of all of them.


More at

http://time.com/4402823/glaude-hillary-clinton/

Cha

(297,196 posts)
20. Yeah Thanks oasis.. Eddie G is Not
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 04:25 AM
Nov 2018

eloquent at all.

More like brainwashed.

Yeah, do any of them "own" their shite?

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
2. I saw that. But White people did not put trump in the White House. I did not vote for trump.
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:04 PM
Oct 2018

I know we can just blow off what I feel, but we need to stop broad brushing people. I am an old white male. I am not your enemy.

I have voted for Dems since 1968.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
5. The "I will vote my principles" and "No difference between parties"
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:18 PM
Oct 2018

need to take ownership for every republican driven disaster since Bush 2000. They own the country not being as progressive as they, all because of them.

brush

(53,776 posts)
16. Not all white people of course. Eddie Glaud is a perfect example of that.
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 11:03 PM
Oct 2018

He said in 2016 that he could not vote for Hillary Clinton.

He had a platform public platform then and undoubtedly influenced others.

JoeOtterbein

(7,700 posts)
4. Eddie is correct.
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:15 PM
Oct 2018

Any look at the '16 election will show you that the majority of white women, as well as white men, voted for Trump.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
23. This is why Glaude and a bunch of prominent Blackademics...
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 04:47 AM
Nov 2018

spent the 2016***





***I edited to correct the date.. Bodak Red got us in 2106 in her Tweet.

oasis

(49,382 posts)
33. "Prof" Glaude couldn't bring himself to vote for Hillary, who is
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 09:28 AM
Nov 2018

an extremely intelligent individual--oh no, the erudite professor chooses to back Jill Stein.

Thanks Cha, for the Bodak Red piece. He's telling it like it is.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
26. Well, THIS college educated
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 07:53 AM
Nov 2018

WHITE woman as well as all the other college educated white women in my family all voted for Hillary and I'll accept ZERO responsibility for the degenerate in the oval office. The blame goes to those who voted for donnie as well as those who didn't vote or voted third party with their imbecilic "there's no difference between the parties" nonsense - like this clown who didn't vote for Hillary because he thought being edgy would keep him on TV during a Hillary administration..

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
6. Sorry, Eddie - but you don't get a pass by blaming white people
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:19 PM
Oct 2018

One reason some of those white people didn't vote for Hillary is that they heard a black guy on TV saying he couldn't bring himself to vote for her, thereby giving the permission to do the same thing.

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
12. do we know where he said this
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:38 PM
Oct 2018

I'd like to see if, if anyone remembers.

I don't remember him at all from previous era.

ecstatic

(32,701 posts)
14. I'm so glad he has finally taken responsibility for his vote
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:51 PM
Oct 2018

in 2016. It really really bothered me that he refused to in the months following the election. That being said, his excuse for voting for Stein is ridiculous.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
27. He did NOT take responsibility
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 07:54 AM
Nov 2018

Saying he overestimated white people is trying to shift the blame. THIS white woman voted for Hillary, he did not.

oasis

(49,382 posts)
36. Glaude speaks of mobilizing and organizing "to bring pressure
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 09:27 AM
Nov 2018

to bear on her presidency". A classic Hillary hater, Glaude, in late Oct. 2016, was preparing to undermine her administration. He preferred Jill Stein.

renate

(13,776 posts)
18. There is no way to convince Trump voters to switch if we shame them every time
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 12:01 AM
Nov 2018

I wish we would welcome people who are brave enough to publicly admit their mistakes.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
22. Saw it
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 04:29 AM
Nov 2018

If his intent was to show white people how it feels to be stereotyped, kudos, job well done.

Plenty of white people, myself included, voted for Clinton and vote for Dems every election. Unfortunately, there were too many people like Prof Glaude who believed the good was the enemy of the perfect and refused to vote for her or voted 3rd party or just stayed home.

Near the end of Deadline WH, Glaude did seem to realize his comments were over the top and tried to walk them back, but can't unring that bell.

phylny

(8,380 posts)
25. This right up there right here.
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 07:47 AM
Nov 2018

I'm busting my butt to elect Democrats here in Virginia. We did it for Ralph Northam for Governor in a big way and we continue to do so.

Rural, white, 60-year-old, always voted Democratic woman. Right here.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
29. Same here
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 07:56 AM
Nov 2018

and it makes my blood boil that others who actually didn't vote for Hillary try and shift that blame elsewhere.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
28. He's not nearly as bad as Cornell West ...
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 07:55 AM
Nov 2018

Whom I've not herard SHIT from since he made a cot damn fool out of himself only this time on Bill Maher's show, still talking out of the side of his neck about how bad Hillary was 🙄

But Glaude's someone who I've not really ever been fond of either.

Doc Eddie underestimated how racist some white folks can be?

oasis

(49,382 posts)
34. Eddie Glade/Sarandon/Jill Stein got us Kavanaugh/Gorsuch.
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 12:35 PM
Nov 2018

"If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem"---Eldridge Cleaver.

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