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jpak

(41,757 posts)
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 05:43 AM Nov 2018

Tense atmosphere at the border as active-duty troops install coils of razor wire

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-mexico-border-brownsville-texas-tense-atmosphere-troops-install-coils-of-razor-wire/

BROWNSVILLE, Texas -- As the first active-duty military troops sent to the U.S. border with Mexico installed coils of razor wire on a bridge and a riverbank Friday, a sense of unease spread across Texas' Rio Grande Valley. President Trump's portrayal of a border under siege by drug smugglers and other criminals is at odds with what residents in towns along the 1,954-mile divide with Mexico see in their daily routines, with U.S. border towns consistently ranking among the safest in the country.

U.S. military units in San Antonio and other locations in Texas, California, and Arizona are going through specific training and rules along the border, CBS San Antonio affiliate KENS reports. Joint Base San Antonio - Lackland Air Force Base is one of the primary locations where training is underway.

Some Valley residents question the need for a large military presence and fear it will tarnish the area's image. And some are afraid of violence if and when the caravan of Central American migrants that the troops have been sent to confront reaches the U.S. border.

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According to an analysis by The Associated Press of FBI statistics, nine U.S. cities along the Mexican border had a violent crime rate of nearly 346 offenses per 100,000 residents in 2017. That's lower than the national rate of almost 383. In Brownsville, it was 257, in McAllen, 144.

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Tense atmosphere at the border as active-duty troops install coils of razor wire (Original Post) jpak Nov 2018 OP
scratch any plans onethatcares Nov 2018 #1
Agreed Sherman A1 Nov 2018 #2
Bless your little heart. LanternWaste Nov 2018 #25
Lol. Have you been to the Alamo? cwydro Nov 2018 #5
I visited it about 10 years ago. watoos Nov 2018 #11
I was permitted to take pics when I was there. (I was born and raised in San Antonio, Aristus Nov 2018 #27
I was there in the early 1990s kskiska Nov 2018 #33
if Beto wins, TX goes to the top of my list DBoon Nov 2018 #31
This is insane. smirkymonkey Nov 2018 #3
expensively insane and insanely expensive Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2018 #7
Just remember... razor wire works both ways ck4829 Nov 2018 #4
Bingo, walls and razor wire stop movement in or out... workinclasszero Nov 2018 #16
my fear is DBoon Nov 2018 #32
The republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief merits mass mockery Achilleaze Nov 2018 #6
cows, not hotel rooms for birther barbie Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2018 #8
This is about USING manufactured fear to build support Hortensis Nov 2018 #9
I have family in San Antonio. Silver Gaia Nov 2018 #10
With all the Army and Air Force bases already in San Antonio I'm sure they are used to the military Baclava Nov 2018 #13
Did you read the article? Silver Gaia Nov 2018 #23
Lol, do you have any idea how many bases there are in that area? cwydro Nov 2018 #22
Did you read the article? Silver Gaia Nov 2018 #24
$250,000/yr per troop populistdriven Nov 2018 #12
They're gonna need more razor wire C_U_L8R Nov 2018 #14
And they'll vote for Trump by a 2:1 margin in the next election. John Fante Nov 2018 #29
Razor wire....against defenseless civilians including children? jcmaine72 Nov 2018 #15
Razor wire is visible and passive, the troops themselves are more dangerous Amishman Nov 2018 #19
How is this going to ellie Nov 2018 #17
that was thought too. on both points Kurt V. Nov 2018 #30
All we need is John Wayne leading the troops to complete the made for television charade. jalan48 Nov 2018 #18
2,000 miles of razor wire --Invest in Razor Wire Companies!! TheBlackAdder Nov 2018 #20
Among enlisted recruits, 43 percent of men and 56 percent of women are Hispanic or a racial minority dalton99a Nov 2018 #21
This is getting sicker by the day. katmondoo Nov 2018 #26
A metaphor and then some lame54 Nov 2018 #28

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
2. Agreed
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 06:14 AM
Nov 2018

Texas was never high on my list of places to visit, but it has certainly dropped below zero at this point. Perhaps an email to their State Tourism Division stating such might be in order. Losing business is never high on the agenda of any group that is dedicated to increasing business for their constituents.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
25. Bless your little heart.
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 02:58 PM
Nov 2018

These are federal troops, not the TX national guard. To assign responsibility of this to Texas is without thought or reason. Ahhh.... ok. I get it.

Now, for validity: "American was never high on my list of places..." and then yours would be relevant. Germane, even. Otherwise, just more irrational mewing.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
5. Lol. Have you been to the Alamo?
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 06:24 AM
Nov 2018

It’s right inside the city of San Antonio. Practically downtown.

And 150 miles from the border.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
11. I visited it about 10 years ago.
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 07:32 AM
Nov 2018

I remember not being allowed to take any pictures because it was a shrine, but not holy enough that they couldn't sell Don't Mess with Texas armadillos.

Aristus

(66,329 posts)
27. I was permitted to take pics when I was there. (I was born and raised in San Antonio,
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 03:13 PM
Nov 2018

but I was visiting as an out-of-towner.)

If they had told me it was a shrine, I would have told them to kiss my ass; it's a shrine to slave-owners and supporters of the westward expansion of slavery. They did the country good with their suicide pact.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,342 posts)
7. expensively insane and insanely expensive
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 06:30 AM
Nov 2018

Daddy's Boy Donnie has like a really big brain -- compared to an armadillo.

How long will it take for the world to forgive us his hateful stupidity?

DBoon

(22,364 posts)
32. my fear is
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 04:21 PM
Nov 2018

A resumption of the military draft would cause an exodus to Mexico

Many draft age folks either have relatives there or their friends do

Last time it was Canada, this time Mexico

Would not be surprised if "they" thought of this

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
6. The republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief merits mass mockery
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 06:29 AM
Nov 2018

for his knee-knocking paranoia. Dirty Donny (R) is afraid one of the hungry, homeless children escaping from right-wing thugs will spoil his golden, gourmet, luxury republican golf goof offs (which we hard-working taxpayers are forced to pay for with our taxes).

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,342 posts)
8. cows, not hotel rooms for birther barbie
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 06:35 AM
Nov 2018

How many cows could be given to the refugees for the price of a 6 hour hotel stay by Birther Barbie? Enough for all the children to have fresh milk until they grow up?

$95,000 can do some real good if not squandered on the parasitic uber-rich.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. This is about USING manufactured fear to build support
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 06:54 AM
Nov 2018

to overset the democratic systems meant to control the president, and as seems all too possible to take further power. Trump would be a pathetic joke if Republicans in congress checked him, but instead they are enabling a man who wants his OWN people to fear and obey him.

Tuesday we'll see how big a stick we've been given to put in their works.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
13. With all the Army and Air Force bases already in San Antonio I'm sure they are used to the military
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 08:39 AM
Nov 2018

San Antonio is nowhere near the border

Silver Gaia

(4,544 posts)
23. Did you read the article?
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 06:27 PM
Nov 2018

Thanks, but I am well aware where San Antonio is located. However, San Antonio is specifically mentioned as one of the places where training for this crap is happening on nearby bases, and that means an increase in military presence for them. So, yeah, I'm concerned for them in many ways. As is my right.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
22. Lol, do you have any idea how many bases there are in that area?
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 11:21 AM
Nov 2018

And as pointed out several times on this thread, San Antonio is quite a distance from the border.

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
14. They're gonna need more razor wire
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 08:58 AM
Nov 2018

But not really ...since this is just a stupid stunt to satisfy Trump's infantile urges. Our poor military has to suffer this fool and his misguided orders.

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
15. Razor wire....against defenseless civilians including children?
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 09:04 AM
Nov 2018

I recall reading somewhere that U.S. soldiers are not obligated to follow immoral orders. Also something about necessity and proportionality. Is it really necessary to lay razor wire against defenseless civilians? Is such an action proportional to any perceived threat, of which there is none?

I hope to read news reports soon that this immoral orders is being roundly disobeyed by our soldiers. Claiming that you were merely following orders will NOT be a valid excuse if a child in the refugee caravan becomes entangled in that wire and is gravely injured. Our soldiers need to understand that. Just ask William “Rusty” Calley.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
19. Razor wire is visible and passive, the troops themselves are more dangerous
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 10:45 AM
Nov 2018

The wire is less dangerous than the troops, the wire just sits there while armed troops can make mistakes.

The refugees are going to a border checkpoint and requesting asylum, the wire isn't going to do anything. It's not a threat, it's not a help, it's just a waste of time and money.

ellie

(6,929 posts)
17. How is this going to
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 10:18 AM
Nov 2018

affect animals and their migration? This fucking country has lost its damned mind.

dalton99a

(81,485 posts)
21. Among enlisted recruits, 43 percent of men and 56 percent of women are Hispanic or a racial minority
Sat Nov 3, 2018, 11:21 AM
Nov 2018
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