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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 01:09 PM Nov 2018

For anyone who thinks Trump WON'T challenge the election results if Democrats take back the House...

Donald J. Trump
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@realDonaldTrump

Law Enforcement has been strongly notified to watch closely for any ILLEGAL VOTING which may take place in Tuesday’s Election (or Early Voting). Anyone caught will be subject to the Maximum Criminal Penalties allowed by law. Thank you!

8:41 AM - 5 Nov 2018


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For anyone who thinks Trump WON'T challenge the election results if Democrats take back the House... (Original Post) Miles Archer Nov 2018 OP
They probably WILL catch some Republicans. dchill Nov 2018 #1
Democrats need to win with big enough margins that the outcome isn't at all doubtful. Arkansas Granny Nov 2018 #2
I don't care how gracelessly he pouts... Moostache Nov 2018 #16
There has never been even a flicker of doubt in my mind The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #3
Groups of election lawyers are standing by for these challenges Gothmog Nov 2018 #4
By what mechanism..., tweeting? RockRaven Nov 2018 #5
Yeah, that was my first thought as well. honest.abe Nov 2018 #15
Of course he can sign an executive order that says literally anything. RockRaven Nov 2018 #23
Why does he need to "accept" anything? David__77 Nov 2018 #6
I don't think he can stop a Democratic House from being seated... regnaD kciN Nov 2018 #20
I think that he could try that. David__77 Nov 2018 #21
Everything he says is bull shit wasupaloopa Nov 2018 #7
Largest democracy in the world has less voting problems at140 Nov 2018 #8
I hope ALL the Democratic candidates have already KCDebbie Nov 2018 #9
and this what he has planned sunonmars Nov 2018 #10
Trump has no say over state run elections and once certified, case closed beachbum bob Nov 2018 #11
He can't do anything about the results, but he can inflame the nutballs The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #13
and inflame the nutball GOPers certifying the elections Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2018 #19
Whine and moan does not equal legal challenges NightWatcher Nov 2018 #12
I also believe that Stacey Abrams has already been robbed! KCDebbie Nov 2018 #14
Me too unless something massive has happened they did not anticipate. sunonmars Nov 2018 #17
I hope Ms Abrams has legal staff that can make a big KCDebbie Nov 2018 #18
538 has the race rated as a tossup. MarvinGardens Nov 2018 #29
If true, the ironic thing is he is damaging his own case with that tweet Downtown Hound Nov 2018 #22
Trump can't challenge anything. MineralMan Nov 2018 #24
Well states have Republican Governors and election officials. honest.abe Nov 2018 #25
I will allow that you are correct on what we thought the law was before Bush v. Gore. TomSlick Nov 2018 #30
Fuck you Drumpf, you Nazi. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2018 #26
Any chance they will be watching for voter supression? world wide wally Nov 2018 #27
His challenge to the results will be as ineffective as any one person's challenge. LanternWaste Nov 2018 #28
Great post malaise Nov 2018 #32
Is it still the home of the brave? FOF malaise Nov 2018 #31

Arkansas Granny

(31,516 posts)
2. Democrats need to win with big enough margins that the outcome isn't at all doubtful.
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 01:12 PM
Nov 2018

That won't stop Trump from claiming a rigged election, however. He won't accept a loss gracefully.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
16. I don't care how gracelessly he pouts...
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 01:25 PM
Nov 2018

Fuck Trump. With everything imaginable.

He is a piece of shit and a goddamn childish bully. I hope the Democratic Party wins every single race, but whether by 1,000,000 or by 1 vote, Trump will scream "stolen" because in his warped little brain, there is no possibility of him losing...

The exact same shit was oozing out of that hole in his head before the 2016 results came in..."rigged", "fixed", "we'll just have to see what happens"...seriously, anyone that takes anything that man-baby says as truth is worthy of having con men fleece them of their remaining (and dwindling) wealth ASAP.

I'd actually LOVE to see close Democratic win after another all night long tomorrow just to watch the asshole melt down a little more with each called race.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
3. There has never been even a flicker of doubt in my mind
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 01:12 PM
Nov 2018

that as to every election a Dem wins he will claim "voter fraud" of some kind, most likely in the form of illegal voting by members of MS-13 and ISIS who entered the country with the help of George Soros.

RockRaven

(14,966 posts)
5. By what mechanism..., tweeting?
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 01:15 PM
Nov 2018

He can tweet all he wants, he can scream all he wants, he can pout all he wants, he can even incite violence all he wants.

None of that has any impact on the election results.

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
15. Yeah, that was my first thought as well.
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 01:23 PM
Nov 2018

However could the Idiot make some sort of executive order voiding the election results due to "illegal voting"? I know that sounds ridiculous but we are dealing with a lunatic here.

RockRaven

(14,966 posts)
23. Of course he can sign an executive order that says literally anything.
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 01:40 PM
Nov 2018

But that doesn't mean it holds any legal weight. Most state and local officials would ignore any illegitimate or illegal executive order, and those few hyperpartisans who tried to go along with it would find themselves in court. And they would lose.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
20. I don't think he can stop a Democratic House from being seated...
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 01:33 PM
Nov 2018

...but I fully expect to see him deal with the next two years by thoroughly bypassing Congress and attempting to rule by Executive Order — and I wouldn’t want to bet against the current SCOTUS giving him the thumbs-up on that gambit.

David__77

(23,372 posts)
21. I think that he could try that.
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 01:39 PM
Nov 2018

And he could try that even if he called up "accepted" election results.

I just hope that no one gets too concerned about Trump not accepting the legitimacy of this or that. I don't think his support or agreement is needed.

at140

(6,110 posts)
8. Largest democracy in the world has less voting problems
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 01:17 PM
Nov 2018

India with population 4 times bigger than United states, has voter ID cards with photo!

95.64%: The percentage of eligible voters who have been issued photo identity cards to prevent misuse. That’s around 780 million individuals


https://qz.com/197550/almost-all-voters-in-india-now-have-a-photo-identity-card/

 

KCDebbie

(664 posts)
9. I hope ALL the Democratic candidates have already
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 01:18 PM
Nov 2018

Retained election attorneys.

Every Dem that wins will be challenged.

Every Dem that loses should challenge the results!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
13. He can't do anything about the results, but he can inflame the nutballs
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 01:22 PM
Nov 2018

who attend his rallies - which are set to continue after these elections.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,342 posts)
19. and inflame the nutball GOPers certifying the elections
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 01:31 PM
Nov 2018

All the little trumpass-kissers in state offices might make a lot of noise with their whining and foaming at the mouth.

 

KCDebbie

(664 posts)
14. I also believe that Stacey Abrams has already been robbed!
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 01:22 PM
Nov 2018

Georgia had NO paper trail WRT ballots and Kemp has already taken steps to ensure that he will win with a vote difference that will NOT trigger a run-off election or re-count!

 

KCDebbie

(664 posts)
18. I hope Ms Abrams has legal staff that can make a big
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 01:28 PM
Nov 2018

Enough stink to wake the dead!

Her supporters need to be ready to turn out in mass # To show their disapproval of how this election was handled by Kemp!

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
22. If true, the ironic thing is he is damaging his own case with that tweet
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 01:39 PM
Nov 2018

"Oh you say the election was illegitimate? Where's you evidence?"

"We have lots of evidence. The best evidence. Beautiful evidence. Lots of really great people with all kinds of evidence."

"What is the evidence? Didn't you say you had law enforcement monitoring the situation everywhere?"

"We did, and they have all kinds of evidence. Lots of people are saying this."

"Yes but what is the evidence?"

"It's the best evidence. Trust me. Believe me. Lots of people from all over are saying this."

"But do you have anything concrete? If law enforcement was monitoring the situation and has seen all kinds of evidence, can you give me specifics. Was anybody arrested? What are they accused of doing?"

"We have the best evidence, and to suggest otherwise is fake news. Sad."

The bottom line is, that by making these threats, he's going to have to actually back up his claims with hard facts if he chooses to contest the election. Because if law enforcement is monitoring the situation closely as he says, and they have nothing, so does he.





MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
24. Trump can't challenge anything.
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 01:50 PM
Nov 2018

Elections are state matters. The federal government doesn't run our elections. States and counties do. Trump can whine. Trump can say whatever he wants. It doesn't matter. The states are in charge.

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
25. Well states have Republican Governors and election officials.
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 02:11 PM
Nov 2018

Trump and the R Govs and RW media will all work together spouting the election was illegitimate. Not sure exactly what they can do but we should not be surprised they will try something extreme.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
30. I will allow that you are correct on what we thought the law was before Bush v. Gore.
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 08:48 PM
Nov 2018

That decision is indefensible but.....

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
28. His challenge to the results will be as ineffective as any one person's challenge.
Mon Nov 5, 2018, 03:57 PM
Nov 2018

He will whine and moan, he will cry and throw another tantrum...

And then a squirrel will pass his vision, and more quickly than Stormy says the Porn President can last, he'll be off to bully another citizen.



I think it's adorable so many people give our petulant little man so much credibility and power.

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