I call bullshit in Ohio

[Botany]

So some of the same people who voted for D Sherrod Brown for
senate then turned around and voted for R DeWine as governor?

[Wintryjade]

1. Right. Some votes are not making sense. Liberal amendment in Florida, yet Gillum loses.

[LonePirate]

8. Every poll but 1 or 2 of several dozen since the primary had Gillum winning. Something smells there.

Nelson's race was supposed to be closer but Gillum was expected to win by a handful of points instead of losing by 1-2.

[Wintryjade]

12. Thanks for that info. I did not know. And agree. It makes no sense.

[LisaL]

20. Bradley effect?

[barbiegeek]

10. Florida should be recounted

[Wintryjade]

14. Again, oh the pain of 200 flashback.

[Codeine]

19. It wasn't by necessity a "liberal" amendment

as it had some surprising support among evangelicals.

[Wintryjade]

21. Well, that is surprising. I heard it won by a large margin though and was mostly liberal supported.

[we can do it]

2. I have to agree. Can't say I'm sad we moved away.

[Baitball Blogger]

3. Something strange in Florida too.

Dade and Broward didn't change the numbers for Gillum and Nelson at the end of the night, as it usually happens.

[LonePirate]

16. That same type of strangeness happened in 2016.

Florida just seems very weird to me.

[Baitball Blogger]

17. Do you believe it?

[LonePirate]

24. Maybe it is incompetence by the South Florida election officials. Maybe it is something nefarious.

I honestly do not know what it is but what you described is exactly what happened to Clinton in 2016 in that part of the state.

[Baitball Blogger]

25. Except that we couldn't talk about it, like we're talking about it now because DU was

taken off line.

Do you think that whatever was tampered with in 2016, never got dismantled and is still in operation?

[LonePirate]

27. I don't know if something illegal happened. It's just a strange result which is now the norm in FL.

It's like Stonehenge. The reality of what happened is too strange for most to believe which leaves the door open to other theories.

I definitely hope the pollsters do a post mortem on Florida given how it seem so to be the big miss tonight for them. A comparison to county level numbers from 2016 also should prove fascinating.

[Baitball Blogger]

30. Something definitely stinks.

[FlightRN]

4. I hate this state

If anyone in California needs free nursing care for a room send me a message.

Ohio people are shit

[Ohio Barbarian]

5. Yeah, there could be massive election fraud in Ohio, but so what?

The Dems will cave, no lawsuits will be filed, and this story will die. Please think long and hard on this.

[LisaL]

7. Well, if it was due to "massive election fraud" why not have Sherrod go down too?

[Ohio Barbarian]

26. Because he was expected to win.

I know; tin foil hat of me. Maybe it's just because there's too many viciously ignorant people in my state. It sure looks that way right now.

[LisaL]

28. Expected means nothing. Clinton was expected to win.

[Maven]

6. I agree

Makes no sense.

[Ohiogal]

9. I am soooo disappointed

Ohioans are morons.

[blueinredohio]

29. That makes two of us

[lindysalsagal]

11. Ohio: The prepetual schitzophrenic swing state.

[irisblue]

39. Ohio is now a pretty red purple state now.

Blus areas are Franklin, Athens area & on Lake Erie. Delaware is still red.

[RhodeIslandOne]

13. Ohio is almost as bad as Florida

[LisaL]

18. Almost. At least we didn't lose the senate seat there.

[912gdm]

15. Im from Cincinnati..

the only thing I can say is DeWine has decades of name recognition.


Ohio is a 'special' place.

[Ms. Toad]

33. Yup, including being a sympathetic figure since a car accident that took his daughter's life. n/t

[smirkymonkey]

37. What is the deal w/ Cincinnati anyway?

There are a number of major corporations either headquartered or with major operations in that city, pulling in people from all over the world, so it's not the typical isolated mid-western city. What is your opinion on why it is so special? Just curious, as I would expect it to behave a little more like an East Coast city politically.

[EffieBlack]

38. The Dems all won Cincinnati and the county

[smirkymonkey]

40. Really? That's good to hear!

[EffieBlack]

41. According to the Hamilton County Board of Elections

https://results.enr.clarityelections.com/OH/Hamilton/77124/219546/Web01/en/summary.html

[Glamrock]

22. Duh!

That's the fucking american electorate! Goddamn I wish peeps on this forum would take a minute to step out of their bubble. We (DU members) are an anomaly. We view politics strategically (albeit sometimes). We are engaged. Most of the electorate can't be bothered to learn the issues that effect them. They take pride in stating, "I don't vote for the party, I vote for the person." Not surprising at, all in my experience.

[KentuckyWoman]

23. Raised in KY but generations in Ohio too

Everyone I've ever met raised in Ohio votes individuals, not party. I totally get a good deal voted for Sherrod Brown and also Mike Dewine. Disappointed, but I get it.

[OhioBlue]

31. I call bull shit too! I was watching the SOS website

we were down some 250k with lots of votes left in Cuyahoga, Franklin, Hamilton, Lucas, Summit and as the percentage of precincts kept increasing, the margins did not. Almost all of the rural counties were at 100% reporting.

And right - Sherrod and Judges win but not other statewides?

We are fucked for redistricting. We are also fucked for medicaid expansion.

[Ms. Toad]

32. You obviously don't live here.

The only surprise is that Renacci came as close to Sherrod as he did. Sherrod is popular in Ohio (and has the statewide name recognition that Renacci doesn't) - and he supports some of Trump's trade practices (tarriffs, in particularly)

Similarly, for many people in Ohio DeWine has been a sympathetic figure since his daughter was killed in a car crash in 1993. He also has more name recognition in Ohio than Cordray (and has beaten him in the past). Cordray's stint in Washington as a government watch-dog won't win him many friends among some of the people who are fond of Brown for his stands on trade issues.

[Botany]

34. I don't live in OH?

Well, that is news to me.

[Ms. Toad]

36. I am surprised that anyone who lives in Ohio

does not find the split predictable, given the personalities involved.

[JI7]

35. yes, those are the "which way the wind blows" types