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Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 02:26 PM Nov 2018

Why Trump was the biggest loser Tuesday night...

The three states that delivered Trump the presidency, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, all trended back to the Democrats in a strong way. Iowa, which Trump won, as well, trended back, too, but it was more mixed. Where Trump is going to struggle is finding a path to 270 without those three states now that Virginia has also trended ever further Democratic.

If Trump wins every state he won in 2016, but can't carry those Big Three, he loses the presidency - and that's giving him Florida and Ohio along with one of Maine's congressional districts.

This is a big development that seems to being downplayed. Trump can gloat about winning in Indiana and Missouri and Tennessee but those states don't matter to his reelection chances because they were already states he had in the bag. The only way this would've been worse for Trump is if Florida had gone Democratic. Alas, right now, that's the only thing he can hang his hat on and, if things hold, it won't be enough to deliver him the White House in 2020.

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Why Trump was the biggest loser Tuesday night... (Original Post) Drunken Irishman Nov 2018 OP
Good point Achilleaze Nov 2018 #1
Trump&Putin won these states by what, 80,000 votes total? GusBob Nov 2018 #2
Yup. 77,744 to be exact. Drunken Irishman Nov 2018 #4
Trump failed in taking down Tester... dubyadiprecession Nov 2018 #3
Lets hope mueller makes it all irrelevant... Maxheader Nov 2018 #5
+1, and it looks like Michigan is going auto registration and easier access !!! uponit7771 Nov 2018 #6
To put this in context: Imagine if Obama won the WH in 2008 due to JUST Indiana, NC and MO... Drunken Irishman Nov 2018 #7
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
7. To put this in context: Imagine if Obama won the WH in 2008 due to JUST Indiana, NC and MO...
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 02:36 PM
Nov 2018

Those three states were the only reason he won the White House - and without at least one, he'd lose it in 2012. That's kind of what Trump is facing. Obama did win Indiana and North Carolina in 2008, but lost 'em both in 2012, and narrowly, I mean narrowly, lost Missouri in 2008 before losing it by a sizable margin in 2012.

If Obama's reelection hopes came down to needing to win even just one of those states, I would not feel confident at all - and, as we saw, he did lose all three (but still won anyway). That's what Trump is facing.

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