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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 09:35 AM Nov 2018

Boys at Wisconsin high school busted for throwing up a Nazi salute in group photo

TRAVIS GETTYS 12 NOV 2018 AT 08:13 ET


Barabooo HS students (Twitter)

A group of boys from a Wisconsin high school posed for a photo giving a Nazi salute, and one of them shared it on social media.

The photo was shared Sunday night on Twitter by an account called “Welcome to Baraboo,” and showed dozens of teenage boys wearing tuxedos and making the “sieg heil” gesture.

The boys were identified as the class of 2019 at Wisconsin’s Barabook High School, and The Young Turks’ Jules Suzdaltsev tried to uncover more information about the boys and the photo.

“We even got the black kid to throw it up #BarabooProud,” the now-deleted account tweeted.

One boy in the middle of the group is making the “OK” sign that has become associated with white supremacists.


https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/boys-wisconsin-high-school-busted-throwing-nazi-salute-group-photo/
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Boys at Wisconsin high school busted for throwing up a Nazi salute in group photo (Original Post) workinclasszero Nov 2018 OP
I went to a Jewish summer camp in Wisconsin. We were well aware back in the '70s there were mucifer Nov 2018 #1
...on Green Lake? Ellipsis Nov 2018 #10
Camp Ramah Conover Wisconsin mucifer Nov 2018 #12
Holy shit. I was there in 1988. Just a Weirdo Nov 2018 #67
you are younger than me. I still remember some of the Bircat Hamzon. That was really mucifer Nov 2018 #69
I remembered the bug juice, and the tree near the mess house getting split in half by a lightning Just a Weirdo Nov 2018 #71
Who possibly thought this was funny or appropriate? They should all Funtatlaguy Nov 2018 #2
I think that could be traumatic to some people at the museum who go there willingly. mucifer Nov 2018 #4
I have a better suggestion jmowreader Nov 2018 #39
This is a public high school in Wisconsin in a city 20 miles north of Madison Wi. Stuart G Nov 2018 #3
Kids in 2018, throwing a nazi salute and the white power sign of the alt-right workinclasszero Nov 2018 #6
I'm guessing that many of them NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #5
Well when you take the side of an ideology workinclasszero Nov 2018 #7
Very likely. The state college will take them, or the kind of Hortensis Nov 2018 #8
would UW-Madison take them? NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #15
I certainly hope so. smirkymonkey Nov 2018 #22
That was my first thought ProudLib72 Nov 2018 #66
This picture was taken last spring, so if these idiots were seniors - cwydro Nov 2018 #77
WTF... This is going to be more than a little interesting. Ellipsis Nov 2018 #9
tRump, will seize this as an opportunity to start Trump Youth Camps. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2018 #11
They are all in "the Scott Walker Civics" class aren't they? LiberalArkie Nov 2018 #13
Curious about the few who didn't. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2018 #14
The only kid that was opposed it seem was the ONE kid on the very top right. Blue_true Nov 2018 #18
Actually there is more to the picture MagickMuffin Nov 2018 #23
Now I see it. Looks like he is ducking out of the picture. Blue_true Nov 2018 #24
+1. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #29
Then three middle and leftish, one with an "oh" face, none participating. And you see a few others Wintryjade Nov 2018 #30
The boy in the front row in the blue suit almost looks like he's giving the middle finger salute. pnwmom Nov 2018 #43
Yup. He's my hero. n/t pnwmom Nov 2018 #42
Disgusting! Shameful! MineralMan Nov 2018 #16
I doubt that it will go unpunished. Blue_true Nov 2018 #19
The kid on the top right neither gave the salute nor seemed to think that it was funny. Blue_true Nov 2018 #17
That kid has actually posted something avebury Nov 2018 #57
Such ignorance on display! Grammy23 Nov 2018 #20
If They Get In Trouble Over This. . . ProfessorGAC Nov 2018 #21
They should all be required to take a classes on the holocaust book_worm Nov 2018 #25
I disagree. Codeine Nov 2018 #26
America in 2018 Ferrets are Cool Nov 2018 #27
Not just kids Johnny2X2X Nov 2018 #28
Somebody had to teach these kids to hate enough workinclasszero Nov 2018 #36
they look SOOOO happy and joyous Demovictory9 Nov 2018 #31
guy on top row, right side. Looks somber, maybe he has some intelligence Demovictory9 Nov 2018 #32
He sounds like someone who deserves admiration needs support Hav Nov 2018 #38
Good for him for not complying with the photographer and peer pressure. aikoaiko Nov 2018 #48
He has spoken out about it. Nt avebury Nov 2018 #60
I'm sure their defenders will be along soon RandiFan1290 Nov 2018 #33
My dad was a graduate of that high school. He would be offended. LiberalFighter Nov 2018 #34
Result of parents, a legit political party Republicans and Trump giving Hitler the thumbs up, Putin. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #35
The worst thing about that is the fact... MrScorpio Nov 2018 #37
It's said that the photographer set them up to do it Hav Nov 2018 #40
an adult or student? Demovictory9 Nov 2018 #41
An adult Hav Nov 2018 #45
from the photographer: Demovictory9 Nov 2018 #54
"It's said?" Tipperary Nov 2018 #44
I know it's not reliable but I only commented what I read on Twitter Hav Nov 2018 #46
Fear not the path of truth Mendocino Nov 2018 #51
The boy on the top right tweeted something avebury Nov 2018 #58
Here is his tweet FreeState Nov 2018 #72
Those aren't Fascist salutes Ron Obvious Nov 2018 #47
And the boy in the front row is just signalling "A-OK"? Hekate Nov 2018 #49
You see what you want to see. n/t Ron Obvious Nov 2018 #50
That goes both ways Hav Nov 2018 #55
It's okay that you can't see it Downtown Hound Nov 2018 #52
Bull-fucking-shit. Codeine Nov 2018 #56
I'd laugh if your hot garbage water post wasn't so dangerous. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2018 #65
Ron "Obvious", eh? RhodeIslandOne Nov 2018 #70
"We even got the black kid to throw it up #BarabooProud," the now-deleted account tweeted. workinclasszero Nov 2018 #75
Does anyone think this could have been posted before 2016? NastyRiffraff Nov 2018 #53
The photo was taken in the Spring of this year at Junior prom Ellipsis Nov 2018 #59
It's a tragic development Hav Nov 2018 #61
Gives me chills, the more so as I was just thinking about Die Weisse Rose the other day... Hekate Nov 2018 #63
More. Retired educator has photog business - Wheel memories - he asked the boys to do the salute Demovictory9 Nov 2018 #62
Oh, they know all right. They just don't care. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2018 #64
the fucking moron even put it up on his photog site! Celerity Nov 2018 #68
baraboo seemed to be his one client Demovictory9 Nov 2018 #73
Well it seems pretty obvious that the creep that took the pictures thought nothing was wrong with workinclasszero Nov 2018 #76
Not only is this person a Nazi mindfulNJ Nov 2018 #78
Trump: "Very fine students..." Blue Owl Nov 2018 #74
This is the dark side of America revealing itself. IluvPitties Nov 2018 #79
Not sure anyone needs to go to Baraboo or WI Dells where many of these kids probably work 33taw Nov 2018 #80

mucifer

(23,542 posts)
1. I went to a Jewish summer camp in Wisconsin. We were well aware back in the '70s there were
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 09:39 AM
Nov 2018

nazi parts of Wisconsin not too far from our camp.

Later I enjoyed the liberal atmosphere of the University of Wisconsin in Madison.

It's a very diverse state politically speaking.

 

Just a Weirdo

(488 posts)
67. Holy shit. I was there in 1988.
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 10:05 PM
Nov 2018

Small world. And that was the camp I thought of when you said "Jewish camp in Wisconsin".

mucifer

(23,542 posts)
69. you are younger than me. I still remember some of the Bircat Hamzon. That was really
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 10:17 PM
Nov 2018

the only time I did that was summer camp.

 

Just a Weirdo

(488 posts)
71. I remembered the bug juice, and the tree near the mess house getting split in half by a lightning
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 10:28 PM
Nov 2018

that was about 25-30 feet from me!

I see Rabbi Soloff is still around!

Funtatlaguy

(10,870 posts)
2. Who possibly thought this was funny or appropriate? They should all
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 09:41 AM
Nov 2018

Be forced to visit the Holocaust museum and write papers and give verbal presentations on it.

mucifer

(23,542 posts)
4. I think that could be traumatic to some people at the museum who go there willingly.
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 09:44 AM
Nov 2018

Some of these kids can learn. I doubt all are capable. I could see several being inappropriate in the museum. Stuff like that happens.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
6. Kids in 2018, throwing a nazi salute and the white power sign of the alt-right
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 09:54 AM
Nov 2018
You've got to be taught
To hate and fear,
You've got to be taught
From year to year,
It's got to be drummed
In your dear little ear
You've got to be carefully taught.

You've got to be taught to be afraid
Of people whose eyes are oddly made,
And people whose skin is a diff'rent shade,
You've got to be carefully taught.




South Pacific - Youve Got To Be Carefully Taught Lyrics | MetroLyrics

http://www.metrolyrics.com/youve-got-to-be-carefully-taught-lyrics-south-pacific.html

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
5. I'm guessing that many of them
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 09:51 AM
Nov 2018

are also going to be losing most of their chances at college admissions as well, as least into many good schools.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
7. Well when you take the side of an ideology
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 09:57 AM
Nov 2018

that exterminated six million men, women and children in death camp gas chambers, there should be severe repercussions I would say.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. Very likely. The state college will take them, or the kind of
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 09:58 AM
Nov 2018

private institutions that routinely fill their openings with the nation's sweepings.

Their parents are seeing their children in this also, plus their own friends, employers, customers, relatives...

Good. Better in the sunshine than in their basements.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
15. would UW-Madison take them?
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 10:32 AM
Nov 2018

if they were otherwise eligible? Of, maybe would they be shuffled off to one of the other branches of UW?

I would think most of the other top colleges in the upper Midwest would probably say "no" to him - Univ of Michigan, Notre Dame, Univ of Illinois, etc.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
66. That was my first thought
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 08:53 PM
Nov 2018

I hope they lose their chance to go to college. Let them stay where they are and become janitors at that school cleaning up teen puke for the rest of their lives.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
77. This picture was taken last spring, so if these idiots were seniors -
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 03:20 AM
Nov 2018

They’re probably already in college.

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
9. WTF... This is going to be more than a little interesting.
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 10:05 AM
Nov 2018

It definitely has a weird vibe sometimes... Baraboo that is. The pic looks like it was taken in front of the county courthouse.

It literally is Circus town. http://alringlingmansion.com/


I'll post some feedback after this story marinates.



Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
18. The only kid that was opposed it seem was the ONE kid on the very top right.
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 11:03 AM
Nov 2018

All the others either did it or laughed about it. The kids that have non hateful parents should suffer a sound talking to. All of them, except the kid on the top right have negatively impacted the rest of their lives. It is one thing to agree to a group photo, it is another to give a salute to hatred.

MagickMuffin

(15,937 posts)
23. Actually there is more to the picture
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 11:37 AM
Nov 2018

I looked through the magnifying glass and at the very top left I saw a head behind everyone else. It's as though he didn't want his face seen. And rightfully so.

There were a few other kids not saluting but still showing their faces, some smiling, some not so much.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
24. Now I see it. Looks like he is ducking out of the picture.
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 01:12 PM
Nov 2018

Can barely see his head. Does not look like he is smiling, just doesn't want to be there. Well, two kids will get into the college of their choice, one because he stood and literally said the salute was stupid, the other because he seemed to have wanted nothing to do with the picture at all.

 

Wintryjade

(814 posts)
30. Then three middle and leftish, one with an "oh" face, none participating. And you see a few others
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 03:49 PM
Nov 2018

scattered thru out. Now looking with glasses and this bigger picture. I am seeing more not participating. And a smile or smile leaving the face does not mean they are participating. Thanks for pointing that out and making me put on glasses.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
43. The boy in the front row in the blue suit almost looks like he's giving the middle finger salute.
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 05:56 PM
Nov 2018

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. I doubt that it will go unpunished.
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 11:06 AM
Nov 2018

Those kids are likely being identified on the web right now. This will follow them for life. People really need to teach their kids not to be followers, some of the kids may be good kids that got wrapped up in something that they should have steadfastly refused to do, only ONE kid seemed to have understood that.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
17. The kid on the top right neither gave the salute nor seemed to think that it was funny.
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 10:56 AM
Nov 2018

One out of the whole group. Pretty shameful.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
57. That kid has actually posted something
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 07:47 PM
Nov 2018

about it on line. The photographer told them to do it and the kid thought that it was totally inappropriate.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
20. Such ignorance on display!
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 11:12 AM
Nov 2018

These boys need a remedial class in world history but it is doubtful they will. Perhaps the shame and infamy that will follow them forever (given the nature of the internet) might give them something to think about. Sometimes the decisions we make when we are young can have lifelong consequences.

ProfessorGAC

(65,013 posts)
21. If They Get In Trouble Over This. . .
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 11:17 AM
Nov 2018

. . .they will look for reasons to blame others. I fear most will learn nothing from the ignorant actions.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
26. I disagree.
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 02:23 PM
Nov 2018

They need to be publically humiliated, shamed, and taunted. They need to find their college prospects drying up.

Education would be a wasted effort on these little shits. The only thing that would work is having those grins wiped right off their faces.

Johnny2X2X

(19,063 posts)
28. Not just kids
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 02:37 PM
Nov 2018

Some of these kids were caught up and did something stupid, but make no mistake, a good number of them have parents who are white supremacists. White Supremacy has a seat at the table in the White House.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
36. Somebody had to teach these kids to hate enough
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 04:45 PM
Nov 2018

to emulate a group of people that exterminated six million men women and children and think that’s
funny.

They weren’t born that way. That’s a fact.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
38. He sounds like someone who deserves admiration needs support
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 05:42 PM
Nov 2018

He's the one who is bullied by the others. He apparently made a statement about the photo.




LiberalFighter

(50,912 posts)
34. My dad was a graduate of that high school. He would be offended.
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 04:05 PM
Nov 2018

Have to wonder what is being taught in that high school now. Probably not enough about the history.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
37. The worst thing about that is the fact...
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 04:52 PM
Nov 2018

That, between Nazi Germany and the America of today, at least Nazi Germany didn’t have Nazi Germany as both an example and a warning.

No excuse for that nonsense at all.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
40. It's said that the photographer set them up to do it
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 05:46 PM
Nov 2018

Because they are su susceptible, they should read about The Third Wave. Punishment alone isn't helpful, they need to be educated.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
45. An adult
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 05:59 PM
Nov 2018

But I can only go from that is said on Twitter.
But the whole school seems very toxic for normal (non-deplorable human beings). If only some of the stories that have come out since are true, then it's a disgrace for an institution for kids.

Several accounts here:


Demovictory9

(32,454 posts)
54. from the photographer:
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 07:39 PM
Nov 2018

The photo appears to have originated on photographer Pete Gust’s website, Wheel Memories. The page that hosted the photo on the site has since been replaced with a message claiming “malevolent behavior” by “those in society who can and do take the time to be jerks” caused the site to remove the photos.

“The internet can be a wonderful tool but for some there is an overwhelming urge to destroy,” the web page says. “The destruction may not be physical but instead it can be bullying that is intellectual or emotional. To anyone that was hurt I sincerely apologize.”

Gust could not be reached for comment Monday.

https://www.wiscnews.com/baraboonewsrepublic/news/local/update-nazi-salutes-appear-to-be-used-in-group-photo/article_3224ea4a-7423-5fc1-b2ca-20159f7129e5.html

Hav

(5,969 posts)
46. I know it's not reliable but I only commented what I read on Twitter
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 06:01 PM
Nov 2018

For instance, the one student who didn't participate (top right) reportedly made a statement about it:


avebury

(10,952 posts)
58. The boy on the top right tweeted something
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 07:50 PM
Nov 2018

about it on line. He wasn’t happy about it, thought it was inappropriate and the photographer didn’t give enough time for anyone to get out of the picture.

FreeState

(10,572 posts)
72. Here is his tweet
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 10:34 PM
Nov 2018

Linking to a quote, not the kids profile:




“I spoke with the only student who is visibly not comfortable with the “salute”, he provided this statement. https://t.co/HbNBc8xLOK
 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
47. Those aren't Fascist salutes
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 06:52 PM
Nov 2018

You don't do Nazi salutes with bent elbow, FFS.

Those look more like celebrity waves.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
49. And the boy in the front row is just signalling "A-OK"?
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 07:06 PM
Nov 2018

Or in context is it another white power signal?

Seig Heil -- the ones with bent elbows just need more practice.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
55. That goes both ways
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 07:40 PM
Nov 2018

That picture was published with the line "We even got the black guy to throw it up". Does that make more sense, now?
One student came forward and said it was the photographer that told them to make this salute. This isn't something innocent caught in the moment.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
52. It's okay that you can't see it
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 07:34 PM
Nov 2018

Most of us wouldn't be able to either if our heads were totally buried in the sand as yours apparently is.

Seriously, you're actually going to take that approach?

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
56. Bull-fucking-shit.
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 07:42 PM
Nov 2018

Why, if they were harmless “celebrity waves”, would the picture be captioned “We even got the black kid to throw it!”?

You’re straight-up wrong on this one, sir. And the little douchebag up front is doing the WP sign as well.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
75. "We even got the black kid to throw it up #BarabooProud," the now-deleted account tweeted.
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 01:58 AM
Nov 2018

So if they were just waving, what did these little racist pricks mean by saying "we even got the black kid to throw it up"???

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
53. Does anyone think this could have been posted before 2016?
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 07:38 PM
Nov 2018

Proudly posted on social media. At least the Twitter account was deleted.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
61. It's a tragic development
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 07:54 PM
Nov 2018

In related news, a tweet from yesterday about the last surviving member of the White Rose. "We are dying out and at the same time everything is coming back again":




How sad is that.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
63. Gives me chills, the more so as I was just thinking about Die Weisse Rose the other day...
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 08:47 PM
Nov 2018

Such brave young people.

Demovictory9

(32,454 posts)
62. More. Retired educator has photog business - Wheel memories - he asked the boys to do the salute
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 08:02 PM
Nov 2018

he was displaying the photo proudly for months until all hell broke loose. He was an educator for decades, has doctorate, and didn't know the Nazi salute was a problem?????

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
76. Well it seems pretty obvious that the creep that took the pictures thought nothing was wrong with
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 02:04 AM
Nov 2018

kids at the local school giving nazi salutes and white power signs.

It sure didn't seem to offend the local area in general either as this pic was on public display for over a year I believe before anyone even questioned it.

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