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NRaleighLiberal

(60,567 posts)
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 04:44 PM Nov 2018

Spot on from Slate "Trump's performance in Paris was a stunning abdication of global leadership"

(Even for lifetime failure trump, this is a real low point - my comments)

Trump Retreats From the West

by Fred Kaplan

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/11/trump-paris-armistice-western-world-retreat.html

The most disturbing thing about President Trump’s disgraceful performance in France this past weekend is the clear signal it sent that, under his thumb, the United States has left the West.

He came to the continent to join with other world leaders to mark the 100th anniversary of the end of World War I. But the significance of the armistice is not so much to commemorate the fallen in an absurd and ghastly war as it is to celebrate the special peace—grounded in a democratic European Union and a trans-Atlantic alliance—that grew in its wake and the greater war that followed.

And yet, after flying nearly 4,000 miles across the Atlantic, Trump stayed in his room in Paris on Saturday rather than making the additional 50-mile trip to the Aisne-Marne cemetery, where 50,000 American soldiers were laid to rest a century ago. His excuse for not attending was lame, to say the least. His aides said, after the fact, that rainfall precluded a trip by helicopter—a claim refuted by the writer James Fallows, an instrument-certified pilot who, as a former White House official, is familiar with this helicopter.

I *don’t* know what happened in this case.

But it simply is not true that “Marine One cannot fly in rain or fog.” (I speak as instrument-rated pilot, and someone who has been on Marine One.) That part of WH framing should not just be passed along.

— James Fallows (@JamesFallows) November 12, 2018
A later claim, that the route posed a challenge to the large presidential motorcade, is doubly insulting. It’s insulting, first, to the Secret Service and White House travel office whose professionals prepare for, and surmount, any and all obstacles on such trips (an insult exacerbated by the fact that none of the other leaders’ security teams had any trouble dealing with the route); second, to the armed forces and allies, who must wonder whether Trump might turn away from the challenges of mobilizing armored battalions to the front lines in the event of an invasion.

snip - lots more at the link

last para

At such an occasion so rife with moment and symbolism, any other American president would have felt compelled to repair and strengthen this union. If there were any doubts that President Trump understands little about his mission, and cares even less, this trip dispelled them once and for all.

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Spot on from Slate "Trump's performance in Paris was a stunning abdication of global leadership" (Original Post) NRaleighLiberal Nov 2018 OP
He was a total dick to his host and the rest of Europe. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2018 #1
trump bowed to Putin. Cha Nov 2018 #2
yes, his master's voice Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2018 #4
Nice pic at time.com Cha Nov 2018 #7
Bill Moyers' "everything we know about russia and trump" has moved Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2018 #8
Wow.. Thank You, Hermit! Cha Nov 2018 #9
welcome! Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2018 #11
It brings into focus the suspected fact that he never wanted the job...just the publicity libdem4life Nov 2018 #3
Kick NRaleighLiberal Nov 2018 #5
The republican misleader has systematically weakened America Achilleaze Nov 2018 #6
K&R smirkymonkey Nov 2018 #10

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,622 posts)
4. yes, his master's voice
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 06:06 PM
Nov 2018

Putin wants a world where there are no political alliances to oppose him. He wants a world of robber barons because he sits on all those billions of stolen money. Trump owes Putin, therefore does Putin's bidding.

One of many reports:
http://time.com/4433880/donald-trump-ties-to-russia/

Cha

(305,853 posts)
7. Nice pic at time.com
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 07:56 PM
Nov 2018


This is surreal that this is even happening.. trump owes Putin so he's selling out America right in front of the whole world and his gop craven doormats have been in freaking Lock Step.

And, the US M$$$M have been derelict once again in their responsibility to expose it thoroughly.. even though they assisted getting the Imposter rigged in.

That pic of the Idiot smiling when his master comes on the scene and Putin's shit eating grin.. giving his little stupid thumbs up should be blasted in 2020. Just sayin'

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,622 posts)
11. welcome!
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 08:40 PM
Nov 2018

That page has become a monster. It used to be at http://billmoyers.com/story/trump-russia-timeline/

That 6-image collage you posted (the EarlG link) -- the "smile" in the last one looks a bit desperate, to me. "Hi, Boss. I'm doing good, Boss. We'll show 'em all, Boss. Big money for all us winners, Boss. Don't poison me, Boss!" Or maybe substitute Daddy for Boss. He lost his real one and maybe needed a new one to cover his debts and lifestyle.

I'd love to see a 2 year cycle of investigate, impeach, point to Senate GOPs shirking their duty, repeat. But, that wouldn't help Grandma cover medical costs nor convince crazy Uncle Joe that Democrats care. There will be enough investigations and indictments taking place during the course of correcting all the deliberate destruction and incompetent screw-ups so far.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
3. It brings into focus the suspected fact that he never wanted the job...just the publicity
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 05:02 PM
Nov 2018

and money-making opportunities that came with running. Why so many other con men joined in. I'm even beginning to think he really didn't know or even care that Russia was responsible. I think they have reconsidered, as well. None of his qualified opponents wanted him, either...any one of them would have done better and they knew it.

Perhaps, we're giving him too much credit, after all. Melania stayed away as long as possible. Again, rumor has it that when he was elected, she cried...she did not want to be First Lady either. She wanted a friggin' divorce. She only looks happy when she's holding babies.

Not a formula for success.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
6. The republican misleader has systematically weakened America
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 06:16 PM
Nov 2018

in so many ways. He and his republican cronies are fulfilling the kremlin plan and systematically undermining America's power, prestige, and security.

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