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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 01:14 PM Nov 2018

Trump may not have confidence of entire GOP, says Republican strategist

GOP strategist Liz Copeland on Tuesday said that President Trump may not have the entire confidence of the Republican Party ahead of 2020.

"We need to solidify behind someone who can kind of keep us together, hold the party together, and I'm not quite sure that he has the full confidence of the entire Republican Party," Copeland, a former Democrat and the president and founder of Urban Conservative Project, Inc., told Hill.TV's Krystal Ball and Buck Sexton, on "Rising."

Copeland, who has been a critic of the president in the past, was making reference to a new American Barometer survey that found 72 percent of respondents said they wanted Trump to face a primary challenger in 2020.

Of the Republicans polled, 43 percent said they wanted the president to be challenged by a member of his own party.

Copeland said that Democratic successes in last week's midterm elections have Republicans worried about the role of Trump in the party.

"While it may not have been a blue wave, it was certainly a blue something. It was a blue splash. There's something that's coming, and I think that from the president's behavior in Paris, the way he responded to Republican members of Congress who lost, his decision to remove another Cabinet member," she continued.

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Trump may not have confidence of entire GOP, says Republican strategist (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2018 OP
You mean there's one or two republicans who object to endless lying, cheating, and bullying? Achilleaze Nov 2018 #1
Yes central scrutinizer Nov 2018 #10
I Don't Get This ProfessorGAC Nov 2018 #2
Look at what they do, not what they say karynnj Nov 2018 #12
I Think You're Agreeing With Me ProfessorGAC Nov 2018 #13
absolutely - it was a huge victory karynnj Nov 2018 #14
Right There With Ya! ProfessorGAC Nov 2018 #15
"not quite sure" "maybe might not" violetpastille Nov 2018 #3
Eff off, Lizzie thegoose Nov 2018 #4
Trump may not have the party's full confidence gratuitous Nov 2018 #5
I assume that I'm not the only DUer vlyons Nov 2018 #6
They kicked and screamed for the toy they wanted from TV The Genealogist Nov 2018 #7
I sense a pattern, not a one-off opinion regarding the GOP libdem4life Nov 2018 #8
Prepping the way for a Kasich challenge. marylandblue Nov 2018 #9
Yes, yes yes! Put this out there and spread it around....let's make rump even more paranoid.... UniteFightBack Nov 2018 #11
GOP strategist Liz Copeland is a former Democrat and a never Trumper Justice Nov 2018 #16

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
1. You mean there's one or two republicans who object to endless lying, cheating, and bullying?
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 01:15 PM
Nov 2018

What a surprise.

central scrutinizer

(11,648 posts)
10. Yes
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 01:48 PM
Nov 2018

Expect furrowed brows and maybe a sternly worded letter of concern just before they do nothing and vote in lockstep.

ProfessorGAC

(65,021 posts)
2. I Don't Get This
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 01:16 PM
Nov 2018

Because they didn't take over the Senate, taking over the house, flipping 6 governors and around 6 legislative seats per state is a "splash"?

Clearly Copeland simply can't find anything nice to say about the opposition.

Kind of a dick move.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
12. Look at what they do, not what they say
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 01:56 PM
Nov 2018

I think most members of Congress see the writing on the wall from the election -- and it does not say "Yay, Trump".

Here is another way to look at the election:

1) There were 35 Senate seats up. Democrats started with 26 of them. With two (Mississippi and Florida) not determined, we have 24 of those called. The Republicans have 8 of them. This is the class of Senators where we nearly ran the board in 2006 and again in 2012. The end result - even if we lose the two outstanding (FL will sting as it would mean we lost due to local ballot being poorly designed again) - we still have over half of that class. We still have several Senators from "purple" seats and at least one (Tester) from a red state. The Republicans would have just one purple state - Florida. Note that we lost Indiana, where had they not primaried Lugar, we never would have won and Missouri where McCaskill was very lucky with terrible opponents who shot themselves in the foot. The point is the Republicans only won a few seats in very red states (ND is the other), which we took in wave elections.

The importance of us minimizing the loses in the Senate is that the next class is the class that won in 2014 when we lost several races that were competive. We start that election defending fewer seats/ contesting more of them. 2020 is when we should take back the Senate.

We will likely have almost as many Representatives in the House than the Republicans had after 2010 -- where Obama conceded we took a shellacking. The Republicans in 2010 ended up with 242. We have (per the NYT site)229 with 10 undecided. Though this is less, the key point is that we have a healthy margin over the 218 needed to control the Hosue. This in spite of it being easier for Republicans due to gerrymandering from the 2010 census that affects us now. (Contrast what happened in PA where they were ordered to redistrict vs NC where they weren't.

2) We are near equal when you consider redistricting in terms of our control of Governors and state legislatures. While we are still way behind in control of legislatures - only one eighth of them were up in this election, we did make significant gains that will hopefully be added to before redistricting is done on the basis of the 2020 census. https://ballotpedia.org/State_legislative_elections,_2018 As to governorships, ignoring Florida and Georgia, we have 23 Governorships having picked up 7. (In fact, under Trump, we picked up another one NJ and retained VA in 2017). Considering that both MA and VT have Democratic supermajorities and moderate Republican governors, we greatly improved our position.

Many Senators up next time, including Collins, might see following Trump as a bad career move!

ProfessorGAC

(65,021 posts)
13. I Think You're Agreeing With Me
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 02:41 PM
Nov 2018

I think this was a pretty resounding victory, but Copeland just had to find the dark cloud in the silver lining.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
14. absolutely - it was a huge victory
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 02:50 PM
Nov 2018

In fact, it was ONLY that things became progressively better that hopes rose that it could be even better -- ie holding those Senate seats and controlling the Senate.

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
3. "not quite sure" "maybe might not"
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 01:16 PM
Nov 2018

They'll all go down together despite, "concerns" and "troubling thoughts".

 

thegoose

(3,115 posts)
4. Eff off, Lizzie
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 01:18 PM
Nov 2018

With or without Dumpie, the Puke party is still evil, complicit, greedy, anti-earth, racist, misogynist, etc., etc., etc.

The Orange Turd just allowed them to come out of the hate closet.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
5. Trump may not have the party's full confidence
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 01:18 PM
Nov 2018

But they'll line up behind him on the Trump Train nevertheless. That's a lead pipe cinch.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
6. I assume that I'm not the only DUer
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 01:24 PM
Nov 2018

who had a big harty-har-har from this post. How in the world did Republicans become so stupid?

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
7. They kicked and screamed for the toy they wanted from TV
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 01:26 PM
Nov 2018

And now that the toy they got isn't like on the commercial they are sullen. At least some of them. Really that is the analogy. They had a wish list for all the dispicable things they wanted in a president, and they got it. Now some of them are upset because they don't like his use of a bullhorn instead of a dog whistle. Don't like him? Work to help gets dems elected to challenge Trump. Otherwise stop whining.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
8. I sense a pattern, not a one-off opinion regarding the GOP
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 01:34 PM
Nov 2018

As Trump descends into the nether regions of his insanity, he pushes rank and file away, which automatically results in shifting priorities of their representatives.

It happened with Nixon, it can happen...and I predict it will...again. There are fewer and fewer wiling to enter those dark, insane regions with him. Now he's wildly flailing by firing everyone and anyone. Paris made him a national imbecile...and he's at least smart enough to know that. All about his hair...how sociopathic and narcissistic can one get?

They say it's his terror that DTJ is going to be jailed. Probably not so much because he is his son, but because he knows what he knows and that like father, like son...has no loyalty...he'll sing like a canary.

The Trump Foundation links in Ivanka, as well.

The Mad King...won't last long in a democracy.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
9. Prepping the way for a Kasich challenge.
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 01:46 PM
Nov 2018

Think Carter in 1980. Officially the party backed.him, but unofficially, many people preferred Kennedy. It didn't help Kennedy, but it hurt Carter in the general election.

Justice

(7,188 posts)
16. GOP strategist Liz Copeland is a former Democrat and a never Trumper
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 02:58 PM
Nov 2018

She is wrong about lots of things.

It was a big blue wave.

Party elders will never allow Trump to be primaried in any meaningful way.

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