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https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a25053526/florida-republicans-2000-recount-playbook/Republicans in Florida Are Running Every Play From Their 2000 Recount Playbook
The people covering these recounts shouldn't fall for the same tricks.
By Charles P. Pierce
Nov 13, 2018
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... as The New York Times reports, the Republicans have dusted off an old playbook and they're running every play in it.
But the Republicans posture on the recountespecially the partys claims of fraud and cover-up and President Trumps latest assertion on Monday of forgery, all presented without evidencehas been deeply divisive and even drew a stern rebuke Monday from the chief state judge in Broward County, Fla., Jack Tuter. He urged lawyers involved in the battle over the recount to ramp down the rhetoric and take any accusations of electoral fraud to the police.
The Republicans strategy in Florida reflects their experience in the 2000 presidential recount in the state. Party strategists and lawyers say they prevailed largely because they approached it as they did the race itself, with legal, political and public relations components that allowed them to outmaneuver the Democrats, who were less strategic and consistent with their lawsuit targets and public remarks about the recount.
Nobody who was alive then can dispute that latter assertion. Because they were prepared to use all means, fair and foul, to hand the country the second-worst president of the past 18 years, the Republicans brilliantly set the stage for their ultimate legal triumphan utterly illegitimate Supreme Court decision that was so shameful that its authors specifically said that it could never be used as precedent for anything.
But it was the Republican groundwork laid in the streets and election offices in Florida that allowed the Court to come stumbling in for the save.And it was Democratic bumfuzzlement at key moments that helped the process along. Remember vice-presidential candidate Joe Lieberman's submarining the Gore effort by saying that all military ballots, even if they were filled out in crayon and arrived weeks after the deadline, should be counted? That was a gift from the dark gods of Spin to James Baker and all the ancillary ratfckers under his command. (Ironically, of course, the Republicans, including the president*, are making exactly the opposite case this time around. Them rats won't fck themselves.)
The goal of the extralegal strategy in 2000 was to delegitimize a fairly simple recount procedure by creating the illusion of a circus. If everybody played by the rules, Gore would have won the state. The Florida legislature would've appointed its own set of Republican electors and the state would have sent two sets to Washington. The House of Representatives, then in the hands of a Republican majority, would have accepted the Republican slate of electors and C-Plus Augustus would've been president anyway but, at least, we would have had a constitutional crisis according to, you know, the Constitution.
But, instead, we had cultivated chaos that gave the illusion of a fiasco, which, alas for the country, the elite political press covered as reality. When the lasting memory of a seminal event like the 2000 election is not a completely bogus Supreme Court decision but, rather, a picture of a bald guy looking at a ballot through a magnifying glass, you have to conclude that the "political and public relations components" worked pretty damn well.
All of which is to caution the people covering these recounts not to make the same mistake this time around. So far, both the local Florida judges and the Democratic side of the argument are doing much better. But as much in love with History Repeating Itself as the elite political press might be, the 2000 recount wasn't a game and it was carefully manufactured to look like a fiasco. Too many people fell for that. It would be helpful if they didn't this time around.
Botany
(70,635 posts).... absentee & provisional votes would give the race to Nelson. Same might hold for the
Governor's race too.
Palm Beach Post many absentee ballots were sent out with not enough time to vote and
mail them back in and have that ballot counted because it was too late.
They cheat, end of story. https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211416264
NY Times:
People voted for Governor but skipped voting for senator.
Ballot design in Broward County is one possible cause of votes cast for one contest but apparently not another.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/09/upshot/florida-senate-race-broward-undercount.html
BTW How much did Rick Scott scam on his health care billing thing?
https://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2014/mar/03/florida-democratic-party/rick-scott-rick-scott-oversaw-largest-medicare-fra/
BigmanPigman
(51,649 posts)When will Fl change their practices, when the Dems are in control for a few election cycles?
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)We seem to be a little readier for them this time around.
I had a roommate many years ago, who played football for his small high school as an offensive lineman. The other team had pinned them deep on a punt, so the quarterback called their basic draw play, Knock Right, to try to gain a little room. Surprisingly, they got seven or eight yards. So they ran it again, and got another nice gain for a first down. Back in the huddle, the quarterback looked around, shrugged, and said, "Knock Right." They ran the play over and over, and the other team either couldn't stop the play or couldn't believe they kept running the same play. After six or so times, the offense was huddling up and everyone would say in unison, "Knock Right!" If the other team had stopped them even once, they would have gone to other plays on the drive, but they didn't need to.