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Um, isn't this a major no-no? (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2012 OP
Same thought here. A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2012 #1
I was about to post the exact same thing. Joe the Revelator Jan 2012 #2
That's what I thought. RandySF Jan 2012 #3
Applies even to reserves apparently. joshcryer Jan 2012 #8
Yes. Isn't that not permitted? Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #4
And speaking; even worse itsrobert Jan 2012 #5
Interesting catch, didn't know that, here's the page: joshcryer Jan 2012 #6
Is Paul just going to keep saying the word Liberty or is he going to talk about jobs and the economy FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #7
Against the law. Period. Nt DevonRex Jan 2012 #9
Yes. Who did it? elleng Jan 2012 #10
Guy speaking at the Ron Paul post caucus remarks Ruby the Liberal Jan 2012 #13
I found this neverforget Jan 2012 #11
Context? tanyev Jan 2012 #12
An active duty member of the armed forces spoke at the Ron Paul rally A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2012 #15
Thank you. tanyev Jan 2012 #18
This is not allowed! Of course, I guess IOKIYAR! TheDebbieDee Jan 2012 #22
You're not supposed to engage in political activities in uniform NavyDem Jan 2012 #14
Kamikaze move? JohnnyLib2 Jan 2012 #16
Probably. Ron Paul would champion how "wrong" it is. joshcryer Jan 2012 #19
i kind of felt happy for him, you can tell he was excited to meet Ron Paul JI7 Jan 2012 #17
Yeah but he should've been in civies. neverforget Jan 2012 #20
Yes, yes, and more yes. An absolute BOZO NO NO. MADem Jan 2012 #21
Yes it is.......he is active duty.......... Historic NY Jan 2012 #23
What if he's no longer active? Is he allowed to wear his work or dress uniform then? Thegonagle Jan 2012 #24
As always - IOKIYAR baldguy Jan 2012 #25
If the soldier hates war so much..... FrenchieCat Jan 2012 #26

neverforget

(9,436 posts)
11. I found this
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 12:16 AM
Jan 2012
http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/134410p.pdf

4.1.1. A member of the Armed Forces on active duty may:

4.1.1.9. Attend partisan and nonpartisan political fundraising activities, meetings, rallies, debates, conventions, or activities as a spectator when not in uniform and when no inference or appearance of official sponsorship, approval, or endorsement can reasonably be drawn.

Upon further reading:
4.1.2. A member of the Armed Forces on active duty shall not:

4.1.2.5. Speak before a partisan political gathering, including any gathering that promotes a partisan political party, candidate, or cause.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
22. This is not allowed! Of course, I guess IOKIYAR!
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 12:25 AM
Jan 2012

And don't tell me about freedom of speech. When one is a member of the United States Armed Forces, one has no freedom of speech. Look it up.

Or any other freedoms, for that matter..............

NavyDem

(525 posts)
14. You're not supposed to engage in political activities in uniform
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 12:19 AM
Jan 2012

What political activities are members of the Armed Forces permitted to do?

A member on active duty may:

Register, vote, and express a personal opinion on political candidates and issues, but not as a representative of the Armed Forces.

Promote and encourage other military members to exercise their voting franchise, if such promotion does not constitute an attempt to influence or interfere with the outcome of an election.

Join a political club and attend its meetings when not in uniform. See Directive 1334.1.

Serve as an election official, if such service is not as a representative of a partisan political party, does not interfere with military duties, is performed when not in uniform, and has the prior approval of the Secretary concerned or the Secretary's designee.

Sign a petition for specific legislative action or a petition to place a candidate's name on an official election ballot, if the signing does not obligate the member to engage in partisan political activity and is done as a private citizen and not as a representative of the Armed Forces.

Write a letter to the editor of a newspaper expressing the member's personal views on public issues or political candidates, if such action is not part of an organized letter-writing campaign or a solicitation of votes for or against a political party or partisan political cause or candidate.

Make monetary contributions to a political organization, party, or committee favoring a particular candidate or slate of candidates, subject to the limitations under 2 U.S.C. 441a, 18 U.S.C. 607 and other applicable law.

Display a political sticker on the member's private vehicle.

Attend partisan and nonpartisan political meetings or rallies as a spectator when not in uniform.


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Source: http://www.ig.navy.mil/complaints/Complaints%20%20(Political%20Activities%20of%20Military%20Members).htm

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
19. Probably. Ron Paul would champion how "wrong" it is.
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 12:23 AM
Jan 2012

Liberals would back Ron Paul despite that junta rule is something we as a country shouldn't aspire to (which is why the rules exist).

JI7

(89,249 posts)
17. i kind of felt happy for him, you can tell he was excited to meet Ron Paul
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 12:20 AM
Jan 2012

he kind of looked like a kid meeting their favorite sports or rock star.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
21. Yes, yes, and more yes. An absolute BOZO NO NO.
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 12:24 AM
Jan 2012

Military personnel are not supposed to lend their uniformed presence to any partisan political process in any way that suggests an endorsement of a particular political candidate.

An exception is frequently made for, say, a color guard posting the colors at a convention or something of that nature, but a person, in a uniform, advocating for or cheering on a candidate? Hell to the no!

It's also very craven, IMO, when a reservist politician does something sleazy like go on a fact finding tour as an elected official (cough ScottBrown cough) and then change into his uniform when he gets to where he's going, like, say, Afghanistan, (cough ScottBrown cough) so he can have some pretty campaign pics taken.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
23. Yes it is.......he is active duty..........
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 12:26 AM
Jan 2012

Last edited Wed Jan 4, 2012, 01:06 AM - Edit history (2)

Personnel, including reserve forces, are prohibited from wearing military uniforms at political campaign or election events. Attendance at rallies, meetings and conventions as a spectator and not in uniform is allowed.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/soldier-throws-his-support-behind-ron-paul/2012/01/03/gIQAB0lTZP_video.html

Cpl. Jesse Thorsen??

http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/225164-cnn-cuts-off-soldier-who-voted-paul-spoke-out-against-more-war.html

Soldier in Uniform Campaigns on National TV for GOP Presidential Candidate Rep. Ron Paul
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2828380/posts

even the freeps think he is toasted.......

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
26. If the soldier hates war so much.....
Wed Jan 4, 2012, 12:31 AM
Jan 2012

to this extent...perhaps, he shouldn't have volunteer. It's not like he got drafted.
Plus them is Republican wars he was dissing, while supporting someone from the
Republican party. Irony all around!

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