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So Mike Pence says it was not a blue wave (Original Post) malaise Nov 2018 OP
imagine the effects in a free and fair election Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2018 #1
+1,000 malaise Nov 2018 #3
I've heard estimates that 20% to 33% of our overall voting power was rendered impotent... Raster Nov 2018 #35
Can't see the writing on the wall underpants Nov 2018 #2
Perfect malaise Nov 2018 #4
Yeah, well, he still denies knowing what Mother's Aunt Flo was. Solly Mack Nov 2018 #5
Help? malaise Nov 2018 #6
Oh. Sorry. He calls his wife Mother. Solly Mack Nov 2018 #8
Thanks malaise Nov 2018 #9
I read a story where someone who knew them both back before marriage Solly Mack Nov 2018 #10
Jeez. So Trump's behaviors with cheating and pushing Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2018 #16
Probably works that way in his mind. Solly Mack Nov 2018 #19
He thinks he is Henry the 8th? SummerSnow Nov 2018 #18
More like he thinks as a man he is superior and she should have known better Solly Mack Nov 2018 #20
He probably thinks he saved her and marrying him was the SummerSnow Nov 2018 #21
He probably does think that and has convinced her of the same. Solly Mack Nov 2018 #22
Poor Mikey. Norbert Nov 2018 #7
What the hell ever happened to his self-respect? calimary Nov 2018 #11
His what? malaise Nov 2018 #12
Bingo, watoos Nov 2018 #13
Maybe Vlad Scarsdale Nov 2018 #15
don the con said onethatcares Nov 2018 #30
I hope Mueller tells us malaise Nov 2018 #26
He was also about to be denied another term as Governor. . . DinahMoeHum Nov 2018 #14
" I sent my kids to bible camp with that money so all is forgiven" SummerSnow Nov 2018 #25
Did that come under golf fees? malaise Nov 2018 #28
All approved by Jesus.lol SummerSnow Nov 2018 #37
That's 'mama's boy', dammit. He worked hard to earn that title. marble falls Nov 2018 #17
OK then malaise Nov 2018 #33
Mike Pence also said Democrats wouldn't take the House though ck4829 Nov 2018 #23
Mike is like the right hand man to Jim Jones. Be nervous if he buys Kool-Aid. Vinca Nov 2018 #24
You mean never take Kool-Aid from him malaise Nov 2018 #32
A dull, plodding booby vlyons Nov 2018 #27
NJ political map 2014-2018 in color! Jrsygrl96 Nov 2018 #29
Oh yeah! Mike Pence. What's he up to these days? Iggo Nov 2018 #31
It's not pence's fault... dubyadiprecession Nov 2018 #34
The Con must be running out of space malaise Nov 2018 #36
Here's a man who Danascot Nov 2018 #38

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,342 posts)
1. imagine the effects in a free and fair election
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 06:29 AM
Nov 2018

The entire GOP might have been flushed down the toilet if not for gerrymandering, voter purges, and vote suppression. That red wall took a lot to break and the wave that was left still changed the world.

Oh, and about voting machines...

malaise

(268,980 posts)
3. +1,000
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 06:51 AM
Nov 2018

What is scary is that they are prepared to destroy every institution for wealth and power.
How ironic that they have destroyed their own party's 'fake brand'. They were never conservatives, patriots or decent people.
Racists, crooks and liars best describe them.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
35. I've heard estimates that 20% to 33% of our overall voting power was rendered impotent...
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:03 AM
Nov 2018

...by various Republican* electoral shenanigans: voter suppression, voter disenfranchisement, and gerrymandering. We've had two Presidential elections where the will of the people somehow did not translate into wins for our candidates. We have state governments where Democratic voters cast a majority of the ballots, but our candidates receive a far less share of the actual votes.

Yes, Russia* has interfered with our elections to swing the results to their preferred candidate(s). Unfortunately, we have Republican* Governors and Secretaries of State that apparently do the same.

It is indeed time for a change. And I am FUCKING TIRED of the "each individual state, blah, blah, blah" refrains that attempt to paint the outright electoral theft and state electoral mismanagement as a good thing. It isn't. We as US citizens need to know that our votes are counted fairly and accurately, and NOT subject to whims of various Republican power structures that will do anything and everything to hold power. OVER IT!!!

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
5. Yeah, well, he still denies knowing what Mother's Aunt Flo was.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 06:58 AM
Nov 2018

Instead he calls it Mother's penitence.

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
8. Oh. Sorry. He calls his wife Mother.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 07:08 AM
Nov 2018

Aunt Flo is an old euphemism for a woman having a period. (think red wave)

He is a right-wing religious zealot.

Considering the story of Eve and so-called original sin beliefs - Pence would see a woman having her period as her penitence for being born a woman/original sin.


He wouldn't call a Blue Wave a Blue Wave because he lives in a world where facts are not as meaningful as beliefs and because he's an asshole anyway.



My mind lives in its own universe sometimes. It's a strange place.






Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
10. I read a story where someone who knew them both back before marriage
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 07:24 AM
Nov 2018

and he said Pence was hurt and wounded that Mother wasn't virgin because she had been married before. That it was basically a black mark against her character. That Pence talked in terms of having to overcome his feelings to marry her.

Lots of patriarchal, religious zealotry packed in that thinking.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
16. Jeez. So Trump's behaviors with cheating and pushing
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:12 AM
Nov 2018

himself on women and paying for silence and now they say paying for multiple abortions is AOK cuz he's a guy? The chosen gender?

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
19. Probably works that way in his mind.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:25 AM
Nov 2018

That Trump was tempted by women and women are to blame for not keeping themselves pure and blah, blah, blah.

Pence is of the religious patriarchy school of thought that says men are the heads of household, women are submissive, and that women carry original sin - so they can't be trusted to do the right thing - and it's OK if you commit a sin because you're forgiven - and if you're a man - it's somehow the fault of a woman.

From which is born: she was asking for it, what was she wearing, why was she there, and it's up to women to put a check on a man's behavior, etc..

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
20. More like he thinks as a man he is superior and she should have known better
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:27 AM
Nov 2018

and that she will live a life of forever making it up to him. That she was less and he married her anyway.

Can you imagine how horrid that is?

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
21. He probably thinks he saved her and marrying him was the
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:31 AM
Nov 2018

best thing she did. The fact that she is still with him speaks volumes.

malaise

(268,980 posts)
12. His what?
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 07:41 AM
Nov 2018

Remember he had to withdraw from an election years ago for spending campaign funds on himself and the family.
He's just another crook posing as a holier than thou asshole.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
15. Maybe Vlad
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:09 AM
Nov 2018

recommended him?? Putin seems to be their "owner" He sure spent lavishly for the gop to get tRump into the WH.

onethatcares

(16,168 posts)
30. don the con said
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:45 AM
Nov 2018

he looked like he just came out of central casting.

I mean, wtf else would you look for in a vp?

DinahMoeHum

(21,786 posts)
14. He was also about to be denied another term as Governor. . .
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:07 AM
Nov 2018

. . .by the voters in Indiana.

Until Trump and Manafort came along.

malaise

(268,980 posts)
28. Did that come under golf fees?
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:42 AM
Nov 2018
https://heavy.com/news/2016/10/mike-pence-finance-scandal-vice-presidential-debate-net-worth-indiana-governor/


2. He Used Campaign Funds To Pay His Mortgage — and Other Expenses

So what was the scandal? What was Pence doing with those campaign funds that caused him to be crushed by Sharp in the election 26 years ago?

The campaign finance documents unearthed at the time showed that Pence spent $12,867 of donor cash — which would be more than $23,000 in 2016 money, according to the Consumer Price Index Inflation Calculator — to help pay down the mortgage on his house, as well as on such expenses as fees to take part in golf tournaments and even groceries for his home.

His mortgage payment was $992 per month, and he made seven payments using diverted campaign donations. Pence’s wife, Karen, also had a monthly car payment of $222, and Pence used his campaign funds to make seven of those payments as well. Other campaign donations went to help pay down Pence’s credit cards.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
27. A dull, plodding booby
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:41 AM
Nov 2018

Failure as a governor. Sold his integrity for power and privilege. Masquerades as a Christian. He's not worthy to shine Forrest Gump's shoes.

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