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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 06:30 PM Nov 2018

GOP strategist delivers last rites: 'When Trump leaves, there will be no more Republican party'

BRENDAN SKWIRE 15 NOV 2018 AT 16:00 ET

Republican strategist Rick Tyler told MSNBC on Thursday that he doesn’t expect the Republican party to survive President Trump — and wonders what will replace it.

The party, he told host Chris Jansing, was hemorrhaging affluent women, along with African American and Latino voters they’ve already lost.

“That would be a generational realignment, and if that’s true the Republicans won’t be in charge for a very, very long time,” he said, adding that the party needed to “stand up to the president” more often. Still, Tyler believed the party was in a death spiral.

“When Donald Trump leaves, there will be no Republican party anymore. I don’t know what will replace it, but I don’t think that coalition exists anymore.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/gop-strategist-delivers-last-rites-when-trump-leaves-there-will-be-no-more-republican-party/
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GOP strategist delivers last rites: 'When Trump leaves, there will be no more Republican party' (Original Post) workinclasszero Nov 2018 OP
The party needed to stand up to -45 Rorey Nov 2018 #1
Yes but they chose to kiss his ring instead and play the race hate card workinclasszero Nov 2018 #5
Yes, Hades! Rorey Nov 2018 #7
NP workinclasszero Nov 2018 #8
I guess they really do believe... sheshe2 Nov 2018 #10
All they were thinking about is how easy ooky Nov 2018 #6
Can't science just clone more change jingling old white farts? Brother Buzz Nov 2018 #2
Hey, some of us are Democrats! klook Nov 2018 #14
He makes a really good point Alhena Nov 2018 #3
Gotta say I like the sound of that Blue Owl Nov 2018 #4
I've seen this movie before hibbing Nov 2018 #9
The only voting blocks the GOP can depend on are white males with a HS education workinclasszero Nov 2018 #12
great analogy!! redstateblues Nov 2018 #28
EXACTLY! GaYellowDawg Nov 2018 #30
The Republican Party will exist as long as our American Oligarchs continue to fund it. Midnight Writer Nov 2018 #11
Same Answer ProfessorGAC Nov 2018 #20
repubs still the party of racist, sexist, homophobic immigrant bashers w/out trump nt msongs Nov 2018 #13
Hater/GUNZ party. Lovely. lindysalsagal Nov 2018 #15
Not an ounce of courage among them, Iterate Nov 2018 #16
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. 50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2018 #17
I've been saying something along those lines for years Victor_c3 Nov 2018 #18
First, the will shrink to a "Regional Party" ThoughtCriminal Nov 2018 #19
Then this.... workinclasszero Nov 2018 #25
Bullshit. The Republican Party isn't going anywhere. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #21
Exactly right! central scrutinizer Nov 2018 #23
Yeah, this wishful thinking makes a regular appearance. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #24
Spoiler alert: It's already morphed into the American Fascist Party. VOX Nov 2018 #22
There will be a GOP Supreme Court for a long time. lpbk2713 Nov 2018 #26
Pundits have trumpeted the death of the GOP for decades redstateblues Nov 2018 #27
There may not be a republican party, but there will always be hateful assholes. Initech Nov 2018 #29
I watched that. Chris Jansing seems to take exception to him Kahuna7 Nov 2018 #31
Whatever happened to that most patriotic of all, the Tea Party? Why won't they be the next standard erronis Nov 2018 #32
Yes, it's a difficult choice. Turbineguy Nov 2018 #33
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
5. Yes but they chose to kiss his ring instead and play the race hate card
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 06:40 PM
Nov 2018

May the GOP rest in Hades!

sheshe2

(84,057 posts)
10. I guess they really do believe...
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 06:48 PM
Nov 2018

I guess they really do believe… In a ‘persons’right to chose. They chose party over people. They just aborted themselves.

ooky

(8,933 posts)
6. All they were thinking about is how easy
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 06:42 PM
Nov 2018

it would be for them to loot us with a criminal in the White House to sign off on their legislative theft.

Blue Owl

(50,567 posts)
4. Gotta say I like the sound of that
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 06:38 PM
Nov 2018

Although it will probably be some kind of zombie outfit that wields power from beyond the grave through big corporate money...

hibbing

(10,113 posts)
9. I've seen this movie before
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 06:44 PM
Nov 2018

Wasn't the last presidential election supposed to be the death of the Republican party? Like a turd that won't flush, they will float back up to the top.


Peace

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
12. The only voting blocks the GOP can depend on are white males with a HS education
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 06:51 PM
Nov 2018

the dying by the day, Baby Boomers and the religious right.

If they don't change Trump's racist, nationalist white power racism, the party is DEAD.

Midnight Writer

(21,847 posts)
11. The Republican Party will exist as long as our American Oligarchs continue to fund it.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 06:48 PM
Nov 2018

Just like right wing hate radio. Shows like Rush Limbaugh lose millions of dollars, but are funded by private donors.

Iterate

(3,020 posts)
16. Not an ounce of courage among them,
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 07:12 PM
Nov 2018

and I don't see how they will form a new party without courage and a renewal of core American ideals. "Not quite as bad as Trump" is hardly a motivating rallying cry.

Structurally it's possible, even now, or especially now. Defectors (or new party founders, if you will), especially in the Senate, could resign their party, go indie, and caucus with Democrats. Restore the rule of law, no compromises, shackle Pence or his newly appointed successor, then let the chips fall in 2020.

But not an ounce of courage. Such things have happened in the past, but not with this lot.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
18. I've been saying something along those lines for years
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 07:29 PM
Nov 2018

The Republican Party is in its last death spasms - or at least the Republican Party as we know it.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,052 posts)
19. First, the will shrink to a "Regional Party"
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 07:59 PM
Nov 2018

Then eventually, it will be down to two angry old men who spend their time screaming at each other over which one of them is more conservative.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
21. Bullshit. The Republican Party isn't going anywhere.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:13 PM
Nov 2018

First of all, memories and attention spans are short. Gerrymandering and voter suppression are alive and well. We have a tyranny of the minority system that heavily favors Republicans in terms of the Senate (a good 40 seats are basically out of reach for us). A majority of governors are Republican. A large number of states are completely under Republican control. There are, at most, 10 battleground states.

We're more likely to see Trump 2.0, a more savvy and charismatic demagogue, than we are to see the demise of the Republican Party.

central scrutinizer

(11,666 posts)
23. Exactly right!
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:22 PM
Nov 2018

I've been on DU since 2002 and I remember multiple posts claiming the Repugs were done, dead and buried, after GWB destroyed the economy in 2008 and Iraq was turning into an epic cluster-fuck. But, ... here we are now with only the House saving the US from ruin. Organize and fight, never slow down.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
24. Yeah, this wishful thinking makes a regular appearance.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:25 PM
Nov 2018

And then there's the family of "MSNBC Republicans in denial." In denial about their complicity in what their party has become, as if Trump happened in a vacuum (as opposed to being the inevitable result of 50+ years of increasingly cruel rhetoric and policy). I suspect they hope to assuage their guilt by forecasting the party's demise and replacement. They'd love to go back to the days of using a dog whistle instead of a bullhorn. They worship at the altar of Saint Ronnie, as if there's no linkage between Reagan and Trump. Idiots.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
22. Spoiler alert: It's already morphed into the American Fascist Party.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:18 PM
Nov 2018

With an untethered, insane autocrat nominally "in charge," lots of huzzahs from the patriot-liberty-christian-nationalist types and absolute stony silence from his enabling cabinet and party members.

Every day that this abominable freak-show is allowed to continue, all that's good and decent grows dimmer. But last week's election brings a ray of hope.

lpbk2713

(42,774 posts)
26. There will be a GOP Supreme Court for a long time.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:43 PM
Nov 2018



And they will do all they can to keep their party alive.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
27. Pundits have trumpeted the death of the GOP for decades
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 08:57 PM
Nov 2018

That segment between him and Jansing was ridiculous. Oddly she seemed sad at the prospect of the end of the GOP. Very strange. I used to buy into that but as long as mean people need an ideology to embrace we can look forward to the GOP. Hopefully very weak.

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
31. I watched that. Chris Jansing seems to take exception to him
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:08 PM
Nov 2018

saying the republican party would cease to exist. I was like, really Chris? STFU.

erronis

(15,461 posts)
32. Whatever happened to that most patriotic of all, the Tea Party? Why won't they be the next standard
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:17 PM
Nov 2018

bearers for the repuglicons? Why won't Koch and Mercer own up to their crimes? Was it just to destroy a multi-party system in the US or was it an attempt to overthrow the elected government?

Let's hope that some honest people start investigating and prosecuting the crimes of the last 20+ years. (And no, they aren't Hillary's email servers.)

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