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qwlauren35

(6,153 posts)
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 12:16 AM Nov 2018

Have You Ever Committed a Crime?

We had a victory in Florida this month with the passing of Amendment 4, re-enfranchising 1.4 million Floridians, up to 40% of Florida's black male population, by restoring ex-felons right to vote.

This is a great thing. However, I wanted to take a moment, a teaching moment, to point out that the reason why this is such a win for black men is because of white privilege. Because LOTS of white people commit crimes, felonies, and either don't get caught, or don't get arrested, or don't get convicted, or are able to plea bargain, because of a biased system of lenience. Lenient police officers, lenient judges, lenient juries. And decent legal representation.

Here is my teaching moment. Shoplifting, drug possession and drunk driving are felonies in many states. People do it anyway. Just for laughs and giggles, take a moment to respond. (Someone pointed out that this is not anonymous, my apologies - but I think you'll be okay.)


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I have shoplifted but I didn't get caught.
4 (19%)
I have shoplifted and got caught but I wasn't arrested.
2 (10%)
I have driven drunk (over the legal limit) but I didn't get caught.
2 (10%)
I have driven drunk and got caught, but I wasn't arrested.
0 (0%)
I have been in possession of illegal drugs, but didn't get caught.
2 (10%)
I have been in possession of illegal drugs, and got caught but I wasn't arrested.
1 (5%)
I have sold drugs/marijuana, but didn't get caught.
1 (5%)
I have sold drugs/marijuana, and got caught, but I wasn't arrested.
0 (0%)
I have never committed any crime (okay, maybe speeding).
8 (38%)
I have committed a felony that is not on this list but I was never caught.
1 (5%)
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Have You Ever Committed a Crime? (Original Post) qwlauren35 Nov 2018 OP
You'd get more response with fewer, less specific options. nt greyl Nov 2018 #1
I'll add a generic bullet. qwlauren35 Nov 2018 #3
I am in my late 40's brettdale Nov 2018 #2
I passed I can only select one crime doc03 Nov 2018 #4
Hmmm... trying to decide on this one. Adrahil Nov 2018 #5
When I was in the 3rd grade some kids encouraged me to steal a bag of M&ms. Kablooie Nov 2018 #6
i stole underwear and bra when i was 13. my mother had died and i could not talk to my dad trueblue2007 Nov 2018 #33
Maybe you should add an 'all of the above' category Snarkoleptic Nov 2018 #7
This question doesn't work. Socal31 Nov 2018 #8
Polls on DU are not anonymous. Click the "show usernames" to see how people voted. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2018 #9
BINGO! regnaD kciN Nov 2018 #27
This is crazy thing to ask people here Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2018 #10
Is this a crime brettdale Nov 2018 #11
maybe a war crime CloudWatcher Nov 2018 #12
I Googled and found I have a criminal record! Glimmer of Hope Nov 2018 #13
Thought crime. Yep, definitely committed one of those... mwooldri Nov 2018 #14
I used to have a criminal record... mwooldri Nov 2018 #15
Good Lord jberryhill Nov 2018 #36
Worth the listen. Funny guy underpants Nov 2018 #39
Enjoy underpants Nov 2018 #40
This poll is ridiculously skewed toward the result you want melman Nov 2018 #16
All of the above? fantase56 Nov 2018 #17
FWIW - Speeding is not a "crime"; it's a civil infraction. brooklynite Nov 2018 #18
I tore the tags off a mattress once Freddie Nov 2018 #19
I have smoked pot way before my state legalized. I would have said hadn't committed a crime, Wintryjade Nov 2018 #20
Yes but I'm not confessing to anything. Marie Marie Nov 2018 #21
Have done a whole bunch of stuff but mostly in my teens and early 20's Quixote1818 Nov 2018 #22
Lawyer. I know my Miranda Rights. nt TeamPooka Nov 2018 #23
Shoplifting is a misdemeanor in cities local to me JonLP24 Nov 2018 #24
Never done drugs, don't drink, and have never stole but I am willing to give others SweetieD Nov 2018 #25
Is driving without a license a crime? TlalocW Nov 2018 #26
I've never stolen, never used any alcohol or drugs, Codeine Nov 2018 #28
You can get anything you want... jcgoldie Nov 2018 #29
Ummm ... can I just answer ... 'yes' ... to a fair number of these questions, if you mean 'ever'? mr_lebowski Nov 2018 #30
Is there an ALL of the ABOVE option.. SimpleC Nov 2018 #31
Most options apply to me. Kaleva Nov 2018 #32
I robbed a Wells Fargo bank at 383 SW Luder Rd. in Portland, Oregon on Jun 5th 2011 xor Nov 2018 #34
I stole one of those little eraser tops from the F.W.Woolworth justhanginon Nov 2018 #35
I'm not sure how this demonstrates anything, since people of all colors may respond. n/t Chemisse Nov 2018 #37
It is likely qwlauren35 Nov 2018 #41
I got caught for speeding twice, once in two different states. Blue_true Nov 2018 #38
On the list of crimes... qwlauren35 Nov 2018 #42
I had to watch those videos in Florida as part of drivers Ed. Blue_true Nov 2018 #43

brettdale

(12,389 posts)
2. I am in my late 40's
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 12:18 AM
Nov 2018

And have never committed a crime.

Unless you can count having tickets to see Garth Brooks in New Zealand in 1994, and
having your seat in BLOCK G, but sneaking into the front row.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
5. Hmmm... trying to decide on this one.
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 12:21 AM
Nov 2018

I suspect in my misspent youth I may have driven when over the limit, but don't know for sure. I never drove falling down drunk.

Nothing else serious. I did get in a bar fight in my 20's, but it was strictly defensive (asshole was being aggressive to a young woman... me and a buddy told him to stop and he and his buddies decided it was go time... fortunately, an off duty cop came in the bar right as they were swinging on us).

No drugs or anything like that.

Kablooie

(18,646 posts)
6. When I was in the 3rd grade some kids encouraged me to steal a bag of M&ms.
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 12:23 AM
Nov 2018

I've felt guilty about it ever since.

But when a store put a price tag of 98c on a small microscope that was really $1.98 I bought it at the lower price without any Qualms.

trueblue2007

(17,245 posts)
33. i stole underwear and bra when i was 13. my mother had died and i could not talk to my dad
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 04:32 AM
Nov 2018

not having a mother when you're a girl is awful. I still feel guilty.

Snarkoleptic

(6,002 posts)
7. Maybe you should add an 'all of the above' category
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 12:26 AM
Nov 2018

for those of us who were violent and troubled youth.
Sometimes I'm astonished at the crap my white-privileged-ass got away with.
In Illinois, we're a few months away from legalizing recreational cannabis, which is a huge step in the right direction.

Socal31

(2,484 posts)
8. This question doesn't work.
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 12:26 AM
Nov 2018

The only reason someone would say "no" is because they are ignorant of the laws they broke. If the feds ever want to come after you, you will find out just exactly how many "technical" crimes you commit.

This isn't even up for debate.

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
27. BINGO!
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 02:42 AM
Nov 2018

That's why I thought this was a really dumb idea the moment I first saw it. Unless you're 100% certain that no one can connect your username to your real identity, answering this poll can be quite dangerous.

brettdale

(12,389 posts)
11. Is this a crime
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 12:39 AM
Nov 2018

I was eight years old, a boy had a big bag of marbles. he dropped it and they went rolling
everywhere outside, every kid came in from miles I picked some up handed them back to him,
but then saw a few on the ground and decided to keep them for my efforts.

CloudWatcher

(1,851 posts)
12. maybe a war crime
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 12:41 AM
Nov 2018

I believed Colin Powell's 2003 UN speech about Iraq WMD's for a few days. Feels like a war crime now.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
14. Thought crime. Yep, definitely committed one of those...
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 12:44 AM
Nov 2018

But misdemeanors and felonies? None on my record, and I plead the 5th about what I may or may not have done.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
15. I used to have a criminal record...
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 12:47 AM
Nov 2018

But it's not unusual to lose them while moving...



Hmm... Is owning a Tom Jones LP a crime?

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
16. This poll is ridiculously skewed toward the result you want
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 12:52 AM
Nov 2018

There's no options for 'yes I was caught and convicted' etc. As if it's impossible that could happen.

 

Wintryjade

(814 posts)
20. I have smoked pot way before my state legalized. I would have said hadn't committed a crime,
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 01:26 AM
Nov 2018

other than speeding, then read your questions. Booze? Who knows if I was ever "over" the limit. I will tell you though and I have had the conversation in the past. I know, with my privilege, if I did get busted for pot, it would not have amounted to much of anything. I do know what my privilege gets me as far as that is concerned.

Good Op. Thank you.

Quixote1818

(29,018 posts)
22. Have done a whole bunch of stuff but mostly in my teens and early 20's
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 01:57 AM
Nov 2018

Clean since getting out of college and now I would not want to do anything illegal now.

Shoplifting as a teen, drinking and driving, illegal drugs. I guess that is probably it. Been to jail 3 times but twice was because of clerical errors for tickets I had paid and one was for drinking under age when I was 20.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
24. Shoplifting is a misdemeanor in cities local to me
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 02:19 AM
Nov 2018

Unless there is organized shoplifting or high dollar value items trafficking stolen items though is the bigger crime. No never shopliftedled even while homeless. All drug possession in this state though is a felony which is ridiculous. The penalties for simple possession can be as bad as kidnapping (class 2 felony).

SweetieD

(1,660 posts)
25. Never done drugs, don't drink, and have never stole but I am willing to give others
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 02:22 AM
Nov 2018

benefit of the doubt. And I don't think a felony should make you a society outcast.

TlalocW

(15,394 posts)
26. Is driving without a license a crime?
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 02:38 AM
Nov 2018

If so, I was guilty in middle school of driving a mo-ped every day at 3 in the morning to throw papers.

I've always subscribed to the Penn and Teller philosophy that you can be a really big asshole without crossing any lines that would put you in jail.

TlalocW

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
28. I've never stolen, never used any alcohol or drugs,
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 02:46 AM
Nov 2018

and can’t think of any crime I’ve committed. I’m quite boring.

That said, felony disenfranchisement is ridiculous and has always been racially motivated.

jcgoldie

(11,657 posts)
29. You can get anything you want...
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 02:54 AM
Nov 2018

And I, I walked over to the, to the bench there, and there is, Group W's
Where they put you if you may not be moral enough to join the army after
Committing your special crime, and there was all kinds of mean nasty ugly
Looking people on the bench there. Mother rapers. Father stabbers. Father
Rapers! Father rapers sitting right there on the bench next to me! And
They was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible crime-type guys sitting on the
Bench next to me. And the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one, the meanest
Father raper of them all, was coming over to me and he was mean and ugly
And nasty and horrible and all kind of things and he sat down next to me
And said, "Kid, what did you get?" I said, "I didn't get nothing, I had to pay
$50 and pick up the garbage." He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?"
And I said, "Littering." And they all moved away from me on the bench
There, and the hairy eyeball and all kinds of mean nasty things, till I
Said, "And creating a nuisance." And they all came back, shook my hand
And we had a great time on the bench, talkin about crime, mother stabbing
Father raping, all kinds of groovy things that we was talking about on the
Bench.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
30. Ummm ... can I just answer ... 'yes' ... to a fair number of these questions, if you mean 'ever'?
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 02:55 AM
Nov 2018

And, 'no' to pretty much all of them ... for ... like, awhile?

xor

(1,204 posts)
34. I robbed a Wells Fargo bank at 383 SW Luder Rd. in Portland, Oregon on Jun 5th 2011
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 04:54 AM
Nov 2018

and I was never caught. This is all anonymous, right?


*I should probably make it clear that I'm kidding. Put down your phone, Agent Mike.

justhanginon

(3,290 posts)
35. I stole one of those little eraser tops from the F.W.Woolworth
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 08:12 AM
Nov 2018

dime store when I was very young. My dad found out, (either my brother or sister ratted me out), took me back to the store and made me apologize and return it to the manager. Thus ended my life of crime at the age of 8 or 9 years old. Funny, that was some 74 years ago and I still remember that.

qwlauren35

(6,153 posts)
41. It is likely
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 03:01 PM
Nov 2018

that if someone reads what I have written, they will understand the intent, and people of color will not respond. As it is, I think I've demonstrated something basic with the few statistics that are shown in the poll at this time.

Some people commit crimes and don't get caught. So it is likely that our jails do not represent the true demographics of Americans who commit crimes. They only represent the demographics of who gets caught, who gets arrested and who gets convicted. In a fair society, those who commit crimes and those who get convicted would match up demographically.

We do not live in a fair society.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
38. I got caught for speeding twice, once in two different states.
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 09:04 AM
Nov 2018

Lucky there isn't a national registry of speeders, I would be facing my third strike.

I normally don't speed, just got impatient once and was running late another.

qwlauren35

(6,153 posts)
42. On the list of crimes...
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 03:04 PM
Nov 2018

If people went to jail for speeding, I'd have seen the inside of a cell more than once. I used to be so bad that I had to go to the "special class". I don't remember which state it was, but they had this one day "scare you straight" class for speeders. They showed a lot of accidents and it wasn't pretty.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
43. I had to watch those videos in Florida as part of drivers Ed.
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 05:55 PM
Nov 2018

Pieces of bodies being picked up and labled. It was scary.

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