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sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 01:08 AM Nov 2018

Here are two Strong Women. One white. One Black.

Last edited Sun Nov 18, 2018, 02:07 AM - Edit history (1)

They fought hard.

I will never know either one without the title before their name.


Madam President Hillary Clinton and Governor Stacey Abrams. They both had their elections stolen from them. Fact.

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Here are two Strong Women. One white. One Black. (Original Post) sheshe2 Nov 2018 OP
K&R! Excellent point! Rhiannon12866 Nov 2018 #1
Thank you. sheshe2 Nov 2018 #2
One additional thing that sends me over the edge is that this is Jimmy Carter's home state Rhiannon12866 Nov 2018 #4
Never thought of that. sheshe2 Nov 2018 #7
Somewhat a paradox there, Rhiannon in that.... KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2018 #8
I've thought about that quite a lot during these reports of voter suppression in this country Rhiannon12866 Nov 2018 #14
Thanks for the reminder about The Carter Center. KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2018 #15
Awww! Thanks! Rhiannon12866 Nov 2018 #16
LOL, you're making me want to dust off my old Jimmy Carter books! n/t KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2018 #17
Kudos to you for buying his books! Rhiannon12866 Nov 2018 #18
Agreed PaulX2 Nov 2018 #3
Damn Right!!! Stinky The Clown Nov 2018 #5
Makes me so angry. Kath2 Nov 2018 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author lunamagica Nov 2018 #9
K&R. I knew who you meant before clicking lunamagica Nov 2018 #10
That's right!! iluvtennis Nov 2018 #11
What could have been . . . what should've been . . .what was, without the cheating theft of office. NBachers Nov 2018 #12
And both continue to fight in spite of what happened to them. pazzyanne Nov 2018 #13
You're exactly right. JNelson6563 Nov 2018 #19
K&R brer cat Nov 2018 #20
K&R Scurrilous Nov 2018 #21

sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
2. Thank you.
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 01:15 AM
Nov 2018

Makes me want to cry. I wanted to believe we were better than this. The GOP is not the party of women and will do anything to take us down. Fact is they are terrified of us.

Rhiannon12866

(205,288 posts)
4. One additional thing that sends me over the edge is that this is Jimmy Carter's home state
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 01:21 AM
Nov 2018

President Carter and The Carter Center have gone all over the world to ensure fair elections - and yet this happens in this country and in the state where he's lived his entire life and served as governor. This must be a profound disappointment for him after all his hard work.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
8. Somewhat a paradox there, Rhiannon in that....
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 02:28 AM
Nov 2018

President Carter has worked so hard for fair and free elections around the globe, and yet his home state is corrupt as hell.

That's not to say that he has not done what he can in Georgia. It's just that Georgia Repugs have used every dirty underhanded trick in the book and kept much of it concealed.

I just hope our courts and a new national voting rights bill will eliminate this evil....

Rhiannon12866

(205,288 posts)
14. I've thought about that quite a lot during these reports of voter suppression in this country
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 04:08 AM
Nov 2018

President Carter dedicated so much of his life to ensuring fair elections throughout the world - but now we're hearing about "dirty tricks," gerrymandering and voter suppression right here in this country. And the obvious fact that it's happened so blatantly right in his home state has to particularly rankle. I have his autobiography and there was egregious fraud - stolen votes - in his first run for public office. That's the kind of thing that regularly happened back then, but he took them on - and won. Every time I've heard about what's been going on, I've thought that we could really use the resources of The Carter Center right here at home.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
15. Thanks for the reminder about The Carter Center.
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 06:05 AM
Nov 2018

I doubt if it gets the support they deserve considering the wonderful work they do. I'm way overdue for a contribution, having gone through the election and some tight times. Will put that on my do list!

No better humans on this earth than Jimmy and Rosalynn in my book!...........

Rhiannon12866

(205,288 posts)
16. Awww! Thanks!
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 06:43 AM
Nov 2018

And they're still giving back - unbelievably still building houses in their 90s - both in this country and in other parts of the world for Habitat for Humanity. He learned about giving back at a young age from Miss Lillian - an R.N. who was often the only medical care available in the area - and never stopped. I've also heard that he drives the Secret Service nuts because he'll stop and have a conversation with anyone who approaches him, LOL.

And I also recommend his autobiography highly: "A Full Life: Reflections at 90." I have it on disc, read by the author. He really has led a fascinating life, growing up during the depression in rural Georgia, to his naval career - I don't think he even got to his run for president until disc #5. I listen to it in my car whenever I have to drive any distance. I was always a supporter from the very beginning - the first candidate I really paid attention to and felt an affinity for - my brother picked on me for it. And having learned even more about him, my admiration has grown...

Rhiannon12866

(205,288 posts)
18. Kudos to you for buying his books!
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 07:26 AM
Nov 2018

That's been a major source of income for his family! And you probably know that he learned woodworking and building from an early age, helped to build the house they still live in and made much of the furniture they needed when they got married - and still use today!

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NBachers

(17,108 posts)
12. What could have been . . . what should've been . . .what was, without the cheating theft of office.
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 02:49 AM
Nov 2018

There is no greater betrayal of America than the sabotage of our Democracy. There should be penalties equal to the crime.

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