When you try to engineer a coup, make yourself face of it, then realize you are going down in flames

[hlthe2b]

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From Politico Article
https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/11/19/seth-moulton-nancy-pelosi-speaker-democrats-1005762?__twitter_impression=true

AMESBURY, Mass. — The push by Rep. Seth Moulton against House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi's bid to become speaker took center stage on Monday night at a town hall in his district, where constituents shouted and interrupted Moulton and one another in a lively debate over the future of the chamber.

Moulton (D-Mass.) and some of his constituents say the midterm elections show that it’s time for new leadership in the House, while his critics on Monday night called his opposition to Pelosi a product of sexism and ageism.

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The Monday night protest at Moulton’s town hall was organized by artist Isa Leshko and Bambi Snodgrass, director of Freedom North Shore, a women’s group that came out of the Women’s March. A longtime progressive, Leshko said Monday night’s protest was her first time organizing. She told Moulton his call for new leadership felt like a “slap in the face” to women, and pointed out that the letter calling for new House leadership that surfaced on Monday included signatures from only two female lawmakers.

“How can you say you have this huge outpouring of female support for new leadership?” Leshko asked.

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[UpInArms]

1. Dirty dirty dirty

😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

[woodsprite]

2. He has that "Nunes" look about him. nt

[ananda]

3. He looks like a Reep in Dem clothing.

Ick

[Fullduplexxx]

5. I dont put it past the gop to buy off "dems" or put a con in as a dem

[violetpastille]

27. +1

[workinclasszero]

4. The opposition to Pelosi is mainly white male conservadem

It is a move to force the House to the right. They can F right off IMO.

[getagrip_already]

6. He is the MA Ted Cruz....

Moulton is an Idiot. Nobody likes him outside of his own district, and the only reason he gets re-elected is nobody runs against him.

Luckily, I'm in Jim McGovern's district. Someone I CAN be proud of. But I'm going to donate to whoever challenges him in the primaries. Maybe I'll find a couple of changes of clothes and vote.... (snark).

[Green Line]

7. I think he'll face some competition next time

There are a lot of us in his district that don't like him. If he was in another state, he would be running as a Republican. Now this weasel is making excuses after last night's town hall and the avalanche of phone calls to his office.

[getagrip_already]

9. Heck, I'll call myself....

I'm not in his district, but it can't hurt since he will get the message state wide office is out now as well.

[Hortensis]

46. Nice to hear, Green. He wanted a different sort of publicity

of this, for sure. Democrat as a poor fit is made even more obvious. He failed to read even his own district.

[erronis]

16. He's getting close to Curz's sad-sack face. He'll be kryptonite from now on.

Maybe he should slink back to the kgop slime from whence he came - along with the rest of the known co-signatories (and the supposed other "dark" ones.)

[calimary]

8. TRAITOR.

[Takket]

10. Nothing says "getting rid of Pelosi" is a good idea like....

Admitting that the people behind some “letter” don’t even want their names known. That certainly fills me with confidence!

Pelosi will be speaker. Get in line and

Don’t forget that drumpf is the enemy!!!

[TheBlackAdder]

22. Yeah, that sounds about as good as having the Fregosi Emerald.

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[brooklynite]

11. Coup (noun): "a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government"

What actions have been violent or illegal?

[hlthe2b]

12. Defending this putz? Geebus, brooklynite.

[brooklynite]

17. Not defending him at all...Nor am I joining in on the larding up of attacks on him

For days I've been reading lazy stereotyping that they're all white, all male, all "right-wing". They're not. They're a mix of old and new members of Congress, from a variety political districts, MANY of whom were cheered on during their campaigns. They have different opinions on Leadership (which I pointed out long before Election Day). I have no problem if the Caucus wants to elect Pelosi as Speaker, and they probably will. But neither do I assert that she's the only person qualified to serve or the only person who deserves to get the job.

[hlthe2b]

19. Yeah... sure like Kathreen Rice is not a recently declared Republican until conveniently "switched"

I support Democrats who support Democratic goals. Perhaps you owe it to yourself to read up on Moulton and some of his conservadem ilck.


Here's a start to your education:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/10/who-is-seth-moulton-for.html

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a25093451/nancy-pelosi-speaker-democrat-opposition-tim-ryan-seth-moulton/

[brooklynite]

20. "until conveniently "switched"...

...and was elected by her Democratic constituents in 2006, 2008, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2016.....

Name a specific vote she's made that you object to.

[hlthe2b]

21. Support these "R's in wolve's clothing. I need waste no more time with you as I have

actual Dem or at least Dem-leaning Congress members to call. I do not intend to sit by as there is an actual attempt to overthrow the Dem party and install these Trump appeaser, eliminating the (largely) woman-led gains.

[brooklynite]

24. "Trump Appeaser"? You really want to go that far?

[hlthe2b]

26. whether intentionally or by sheer ignorance + personal ambition, they are doing his bidding

going after our best leader and sending an incredibly ugly message to the women members of the caucus that made these gains possible.

[phleshdef]

28. People use "coup" in a non-literal way all the time.

And you know that. You're just trying to pick.

[brooklynite]

31. Yes, they do...and the implication is always that in some way it's illegitimate"

Democratic Caucus members have a right to vote for their choice as Speaker. And nobody -- even Nancy Pelosi -- has an automatic right to the job.

[hlthe2b]

34. Your guy! MOULTON JUST COMPARED OUSTING NANCY PELOSI TO OUSTING MARGARET THATCHER

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[brooklynite]

35. How is Moulton "my guy"?

[hlthe2b]

43. Gee, brooklynite: HuffPo just used the term "coup" likewise to describe Seth's sexist campaign

Maybe you need to redress them for using a term-- long since relegated to the common vernacular.


Rep. Seth Moulton Faces Friendly Fire Back Home For Opposing Pelosi
The rising Democratic star says making Nancy Pelosi House speaker would be “failing the American people.” Some in his Massachusetts district call him sexist.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rep-seth-moulton-opposing-nancy-pelosi_us_5bf37a6ee4b0376c9e681223

Now, as that willingness to criticize top Democratic officials reaches its peak with his leadership of a coup against likely House Speaker-in-waiting Nancy Pelosi, Moulton is feeling the backlash. At a town hall in his district on Massachusetts’ North Shore on Monday night, activists confronted Moulton with accusations of sexism and ageism, mirroring the assault he’s facing from Pelosi allies in Washington.

[TreasonousBastard]

13. 2020 is a long way off-- let's hope memories don't fade. n/t

[Hortensis]

47. Yes. :) It's really looking like this is just a publicity stunt,

positioning himself as the man for any who've OD'd on too much women's (and ?) equality. Apparently he's forgotten how Jim Webb dropped out of sight without a splash, or is too OD'd himself to understand why. That he couldn't predict backlash on this suggests the latter.

[George II]

14. I wonder what his real motivation is for spearheading this division? Does he have any suggestions..

...about who this "new leadership in the House" might be? I doubt it. He's just throwing shit against the wall without any idea of how to clean it up.

And I'm sure this charade he's perpetrating is going to do him more harm than good.

[erronis]

18. Maybe he learned something from the pee-tartiers. Throw enough shit

and something might stick.

Bet there's some koch-style funding behind him and his buds.

[skypilot]

23. I also wonder if...

...he has given any thought to the fact that whoever this "new" person ended up being, he/she would be in the line of succession for the presidency. I'd be a lot more comfortable with someone as experienced as Pelosi than with some newbie.

[Nitram]

15. Jacob Wohlishness or Assholiness?

[Fuzzpope]

25. Wtf

I'm sorry to say it, but this slimy shit weasel is serving a republican agenda like a straight up operative. Even if he isn't one, if he achieves the same damage and desired outcome, does it even matter if he is or isn't?

It's time for curtains, stinky man. That yummy hot dog aroma is your own ass on fire, buddy.

[atreides1]

29. Moulton was a Marine?

I wonder where he got his training, Chicken-shit-R-Us???

[saidsimplesimon]

30. Rep. Moulton

has "cut of his nose to spite his face" so to speak. The voters in Massachusetts can send him packing, and Democrats can cut off any campaign funding as his reward. imo

[octoberlib]

32. He engineered a coup, made himself the face of it then hides behind other people and makes them

do the dirty work. "The list? I didn't release the list. Wasn't me."

[seaglass]

36. He blamed his decision on his 35 day old daughter! Even though he tried to oust Pelosi in 2016 too.

He doesn't think much of his constituents.

[Tracer]

33. He's not my Rep either, but

I think he is making a very big mistake.

[seaglass]

37. And his mentor, the one he wants to take Pelosi's place, Marcia Fudge, is fvcked.

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[hlthe2b]

38. well, that is unfortunate. I don't support Fudge for Speaker, but this only proves

she did not really know this man at all, whose earlier acts she didn't defend, but whose friendship she felt deserving of loyalty. That he, in truth was a domestic abuser heading to a (likely) murderous end is horrific.

[seaglass]

39. She spoke up for him after he beat his wife. I don't find that defensible. n/t

[hlthe2b]

40. I was only speaking to the content of the letter. Obviously, I don't condone speaking for him

either. I wasn't aware she'd taken it further.

[seaglass]

41. I'm only talking about the letter also. I don't consider what he did a "mistake". n/t

[hlthe2b]

42. well, her appraisal was based on sheer ignorance, at a minimum.

[Progressive dog]

44. He and his tiny faction

think that it's fair for them to dictate who can be speaker. They are not democrats or Democrats.

[Cha]

45. Yeah, that whole Margaret Thatcher

Gaslit thing for one..

Thank You, Isa Leshko!