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GoneOffShore

(17,339 posts)
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 12:21 PM Nov 2018

And another tax exemption goes away to screw people -

The following was just posted on Facebook by a friend:


This is a story about the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017, commonly called the “Trump Tax Cuts.”

On October 16, heavy rains in the Junction, Texas area caused a rapid rise in the water level of the Llano River. The rain pattern tracked east along the path of the river, adding more water. Soon, the water was forty feet above flood stage in Llano, Texas. The raging flood continued east, and completely destroyed the highway 2900 bridge at Kingsland, Texas. Just east of the 2900, the Llano River confluences with the Colorado river, which flows south from Buchanan lake. Buchanan was already at max level, so the Colorado was flooding as well, and the two floods converged at Kingsland, with catastrophic effect.

My little lake place, a “cottage” as my Canadian friends would call it, a workshop and carport and two-slip boathouse is located on a small cove just off of the Colorado and just east of the confluence of the two rivers in Kingsland.

The flood waters lifted the workshop off of its pier foundation and moved it several feet. The water completely submerged a pickup truck I keep in the carport at the lake.

The water level inside the cabin rose to about 3 inches from the ceiling. Everything inside the cabin and workshop was destroyed.

I soon discovered that my property was not insured for flood damage.

An aside: I am not without culpability here. In my old-age, I have a lot of my life automated. Virtually all of my monthly bills are paid through automated arrangements between the creditors and my banks. Utility bills, credit card balances, insurance premiums. All paid automatically when they come due. Except, apparently, the premiums for the national flood insurance program. Through some weirdness in that system, those premiums must be paid manually. And I discovered that my policy had lapsed three years ago.

Okay, so I am uninsured and it’s my own negligence to blame. You know how you get a rut-roh moment when you finally remember you left the water hose running in the garden and you think, oh, boy, my water bill is gonna be high this month? Like that only different.

This is gonna be a six-figure ruh-roh.

Somewhere in the preceding paragraphs you may have wondered, “Sad tale, but what has any of this got to do with the Trump Tax Cut act?”

Well, glad you asked.

I was peripherally aware of, but had the good fortune to never use, a provision in the tax code that allowed people to deduct catastrophic expenses from a natural disaster, like, say, a tornado or fire or …flood. (Subject, of course, to only those expenses that exceeded insurance payments.) In the case of, for example, a six-figure uninsured loss, those tax deductions could soften the blow. Oh, there’d still be plenty of pain to go around, but it would be a glimmer of goodness, like finding a wondrous bargain price on a new TV on black Friday, but magnified by a LOT. What if you don’t make enough money this year to fully take advantage of the deduction? Well, if the loss were so great that it was more than you could use in this tax year, you could carry it forward to future years, or even modify previous year’s returns and take the losses there. Like I say, not redemption, but a softening of the carnage.

Well. It turns out that those evil Republican sumbitches in congress, while searching diligently for ways they could soften the blow to the federal budget that would result from giving a huge tax break to their wealthy cronies said, “Hey! Here’s something! Lets eliminate the catastrophic deduction for everybody who isn’t in a Presidentially-declared disaster area! We couldn’t eliminate it altogether, because in a big-news event, the outcry would be too great and we’d look bad. But a small disaster? Or even an individual singular event? Nobody will ever know or care! It’s genius!”

So, effective for the tax years 2018 through 2026, if you have a catastrophic loss and you are not in a President-declared disaster area? Zilch is what you can expect from your federal government in tax relief from your loss.

I won’t keep you in suspense. Has the Orange Toad declared the area of central Texas devastated by this flood a disaster area? The answer is….not yet.

But the governor of Texas, a staunch Republican sycophant, has sent a fancy, detailed request to his highness asking for it, so you’d think there will be a good chance it’ll get done. But, that assumes fatass will act rationally and reasonably and with compassion…

But, think about it. Even though my financial blow may be softened by some small percentage through a tax deduction--if the edict does indeed come down from on-high that this area truly is deserving of his wave of the scepter--even if that occurs, what about some farmer in Iowa who has his house and barns and cattle pens and silos and fencing and equipment destroyed by a single touchdown of an F5 tornado?

Here’s the answer from your buddies in congress and the White House, Farmer Brown. A collective smile and a dismissive wave of middle fingers.
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And another tax exemption goes away to screw people - (Original Post) GoneOffShore Nov 2018 OP
Consequences of elections beachbum bob Nov 2018 #1
You need to contact your mortgage holder if they had been paying the premium prior to the last dameatball Nov 2018 #2
I'll pass this information on to the person it happened to. GoneOffShore Nov 2018 #4
Sorry for your situation. The whole tax fiasco is a fraud. The personal exemption has also been still_one Nov 2018 #3
This didn't happen to me, but to a Facebook friend. GoneOffShore Nov 2018 #5
Still sorry for what your FB friend is going through still_one Nov 2018 #6
Thank you. GoneOffShore Nov 2018 #7
Yeah it sucks D_Master81 Nov 2018 #8
I used to be a tax accountant in the 1980's customerserviceguy Nov 2018 #9

dameatball

(7,397 posts)
2. You need to contact your mortgage holder if they had been paying the premium prior to the last
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 01:01 PM
Nov 2018

three years. I had a similar problem with my bank last year. Seven years ago, I refinanced my house into just in my name after a divorce. My flood insurance premiums were paid by the mortgage holder automatically every year for six consecutive years. Suddenly, this past year I got a letter from the mortgage holder wanting an updated copy of my flood insurance policy. Otherwise they were going to stop paying the annual premium. Between multiple calls from my local insurance agent and myself we finally got the national flood insurance company to send a copy to my mortgage holder. It was a real hassle all around. I also found out that the national flood insurance company would only work with my agent, which I thought was weird.

The point of all this is that if your premiums had been being paid previously, the mortgage holder should have at least notified you of any impending problems. If they did not, you may have a case. Slim chance perhaps.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
3. Sorry for your situation. The whole tax fiasco is a fraud. The personal exemption has also been
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 01:05 PM
Nov 2018

eliminated, along with certain itemized deductions, which will affect those mostly in blue states with high housing and property taxes. Yes, this was a punitive tax bill.

Those who used to itemize deductions may find that won’t happen now since the standard deduction has been raised, but either the loss of the personal exemption, they will find they will be actually paying more tax

Those at lower incomes who didn’t itemize before will also lose the personal exemption, but the increase in the standard deduction will most likely realize less tax for them, but it will not be any windfall for sure, and with the whittling down of the ACA, those who choose to keep that insurance will find much of that tax gain will go to increased premiums. With the trade war they will find the cost of everything will be higher, so much of that so called tax cut will go to the higher costs

It will be the wealthiest that will benefit the most, and the Reagan trickle down economics will be shown again to be a complete failure


D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
8. Yeah it sucks
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 03:33 PM
Nov 2018

Told a guy I know a few months back who had some flood damage he couldn’t even write off the losses on taxes this year. Needless to say he wasn’t pleased.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
9. I used to be a tax accountant in the 1980's
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 02:58 AM
Nov 2018

And during that decade, I saw all kinds of tax breaks eliminated. It seems to be inevitable that we will eventually just have a standard deduction, and nothing else for ordinary individuals.

Frankly, I never really liked the charitable exemption, especially as it applied to religious organizations. What church you go to, and how much of your income you choose to give them is purely your own business, and not something that the rest of us should subsidize.

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