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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
5. Ouch.
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 06:53 PM
Nov 2018

The Second Amendment was designed to allow white males of property to carry guns in order to protect themselves from their slaves.

And the US police forces started as slave patrols.

So there are those facts as well. A black person with a gun is perceived as a threat.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
12. Yep. You got it right. Carrying a gun is a privilege for Whites.
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 10:07 PM
Nov 2018

It is clear there can be no such thing as a good guy with a gun if that person is African American.

 

Soleta

(23 posts)
3. This story is more an example of what's wrong with police,
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 06:42 PM
Nov 2018

than an example of what's wrong with armed non-police.


Too many police believe in the "better safe than sorry" principle when it comes to deadly force. It is a bankrupt philosophy for people who signed up to be 'heroes' to take as a guiding principle.

Kaleva

(36,298 posts)
7. The guy may have died following the "better safe then sorry" principle
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 06:56 PM
Nov 2018

When out in public, one doesn't pull a gun unless there is 100 % certainty that the next action will be pulling the trigger. Guy knew shit was going down so he thought it best to be safe and draw the gun in case he needed it. That killed him.

Of course I'm just guessing as to what the actual events were.

Bottom line is that one doesn't draw a gun because there may be police or other good guys with a gun who mistake you for a bad guy with a gun.

pecosbob

(7,538 posts)
4. The article I read yesterday had the police claiming he was involved.
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 06:42 PM
Nov 2018

It sounded like a lie when I read it.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
8. The Washington Post article on this is poorly written
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 07:45 PM
Nov 2018

Here is the quote.

About an hour before the shooting, Bradford posted a photo of himself on Facebook, showing him posing in a doorway in the shredded jeans and T-shirt in which he would die. Digital scribbles on the photo obscure his left hand, in which he appears to be holding something.

I read it to mean he said he would die in these clothes. That is not what the Facebook picture shows. It does show him almost surely holding a gun. My 74 year old mom has the same type of picture on Facebook. I advised her against it, but you know how the NRA types love these types of pictures unless perhaps it is a black man holding the gun. Then he is a thug.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/11/24/police-said-they-killed-mall-shooter-now-they-say-they-might-have-shot-wrong-man/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.7ead5381b47d

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
14. Family of man killed by officer in Alabama mall shooting hires civil rights attorney
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 10:24 PM
Nov 2018
HOOVER, Ala. — The family of a man who was fatally shot by a police officer at mall in Hoover, Alabama has retained a national civil rights attorney, a press release confirms.

Family members have hired Benjamin Crump to represent them in 21-year-old Emantic Fitzgerald Bradford Jr.'s Thanksgiving night shooting death. Crump represented Trayvon Martin's family in the 2012 to 2013 George Zimmerman case.

https://abc3340.com/news/local/family-of-man-killed-by-officer-in-alabama-mall-shooting-hires-civil-rights-attorney
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