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Tue Nov 27, 2018, 08:58 PM

If RUMP or Kushner knew in advance of the Saudi Butcher of Khashoggi then

would they BOTH be accessories to the crime?

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Reply If RUMP or Kushner knew in advance of the Saudi Butcher of Khashoggi then (Original post)
bluestarone Nov 2018 OP
Ilsa Nov 2018 #1
bluestarone Nov 2018 #2
KWR65 Nov 2018 #3
Ilsa Nov 2018 #4
Atticus Nov 2018 #5
KWR65 Nov 2018 #6
htuttle Nov 2018 #9
KWR65 Nov 2018 #13
Atticus Nov 2018 #11
htuttle Nov 2018 #8
Cracklin Charlie Nov 2018 #10
Wellstone ruled Nov 2018 #7
bluestarone Nov 2018 #12

Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 09:04 PM

1. And did they stop the CIA from warning Khashoggi? nt

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 09:06 PM

2. Exactly!!!

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 09:08 PM

3. No. They would have to actively do something.

If you tell me you are going to rob a bank then I'm not liable. If I drive you to the bank then I am liable.

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Response to KWR65 (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 09:11 PM

4. What if the told the CIA not to warn Khashoggi? nt

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Response to KWR65 (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 09:11 PM

5. I may have misunderstood, but I believe there is in fact a specific federal

statute that made it their legal obligation to warn him.

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Response to Atticus (Reply #5)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 09:12 PM

6. There is no such law. Otherwise millions of people would be in prison.

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Response to KWR65 (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 09:22 PM

9. It applies to the US intelligence community

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Response to htuttle (Reply #9)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 09:51 PM

13. That is a directive.

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Response to KWR65 (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 09:32 PM

11. This is what I had in mind:

"If U.S. intelligence knew of the danger toKhashoggi Intelligence Community Directive191 - Duty to Warn (pdf) would have applied:

An IC element that collects or acquirescredible and specific information indicatingan impending threat of intentional killing,serious bodily injury, or kidnappingdirected at a person or group of people(hereafter referred to as intended victim)shall have a duty to warn the intendedvictim or those responsible for protectingthe intended victim, as appropriate. Thisincludes threats where the target is aninstitution, place of business, structure,or location. The term intended victimincludes both U.S. persons, as defined in EO12333, Section 3.5(k), and non-U.S. persons."

That's a quote from an article found at http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50410.htm. As another response mentioned, this applies to the intelligence community, but it was TRUMP'S intelligence community and this article mentions Kushner's friendship with the Crown Prince as a reason why the warning may have not been issued. In most any other situation, the person in charge is responsible for the failures of his agents to follow the law. This would be especially true where the misfeasance was ordered or encouraged by the person in charge.

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Response to KWR65 (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 09:25 PM

10. Who told him to go to that building?

To get a marriage license?

Sounded like a set up, to me.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 09:14 PM

7. We will have that factual answer

by March of next year. Remember who the Committee Chair persons are.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #7)

Tue Nov 27, 2018, 09:37 PM

12. YES will be interesting to say the least!!

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