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NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 10:34 PM Nov 2018

TPM Marshall "They All Lied, They're All Guilty"

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/they-all-lied-theyre-all-guilty

By Josh Marshall
November 29, 2018 8:42 pm

Sometimes it’s worth stepping back and stating the obvious. Over the course of these thirty months of cover-ups, every player in the Trump/Russia story has lied about their role in the conspiracy. And not hedging and spinning fibs but straight up lies about the core nature of their involvement, their overt acts. Most – though here what we know is a bit more tentative – seem to have lied under oath, whether to congressional committees or a grand jury. Not a single one of them told a story that wasn’t eventually contradicted and disproved. Not a single one.

Who? Well, let’s see. Donald Trump, Jr., Michael Cohen, Michael Flynn, George Papadopoulos, Donald Trump, Jerome Corsi, Roger Stone, Paul Manafort, Rick Gates, Carter Page, Jared Kushner. These are ones who lied, the ones we can state definitively. I’m not including the marginal players, folks like Dutch lawyer Alex van der Zwaan. I’m not including those who just never spoke at all – at least not in public.

We can now see documentation and confessions that outline some of what has always seemed probable. During the campaign – for roughly the first year of the campaign! – Donald Trump was actively trying to strike business deals in Russia with the help of Vladimir Putin’s government and working closely with members of the Russian intelligence services. Felix Sater was working with all these people. Trump’s deal-maker and Russian money channel handler, Michael Cohen, literally reached out to Putin’s press office and spoke to a member of the staff to enlist the Russian government’s assistance. This was while Trump was already the clear frontrunner for the nomination.

As this was happening, Putin’s intelligence services were stealing emails and documents from various arms of the Democratic party. They were mounting various information operations within the United States. As this was happening a bankrupt and desperate political fixer who’d been working for a Putin loyalist for a decade showed up wanting to work for the campaign for free. That’s Paul Manafort, a longtime business partner of Roger Stone, another member of the conspiracy.

snip - read the rest. Excellent as always from Josh Marshall.

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TPM Marshall "They All Lied, They're All Guilty" (Original Post) NRaleighLiberal Nov 2018 OP
Bring the hammer down! Ponietz Nov 2018 #1
patience grasshopper Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2018 #4
If the GOP wants redemption, they should impeach now while still in power davekriss Nov 2018 #6
After years the nauseating stress, I am smiling and don't feel bad at all for their pain uppityperson Nov 2018 #2
K&R and add this for freepers that will kick this up later to hide your O.P... Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #8
Wall Them Up! Wall Them Up! Mr. Ected Nov 2018 #3
That's good. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2018 #9
The Criminal Party rickyhall Nov 2018 #5
If you have the external financial help of a foreign government anyone can be elected UCmeNdc Nov 2018 #7
Treasonous scumbags malaise Nov 2018 #10

Ponietz

(2,966 posts)
1. Bring the hammer down!
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 10:43 PM
Nov 2018

The House should impeach immediately and put it right in the Repuke Senate’s face, since there are 22 Repuke senators up for reelection in 2020. They stand to lose reelection if they vote to acquit.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,340 posts)
4. patience grasshopper
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 01:09 AM
Nov 2018

2020 is 2 years away. Plenty of time for lots and lots of televised hearings. There are many more liars to be unmasked.

davekriss

(4,616 posts)
6. If the GOP wants redemption, they should impeach now while still in power
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 03:04 AM
Nov 2018

But they won't, they don't want redemption. They want power and can see nothing else.

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
7. If you have the external financial help of a foreign government anyone can be elected
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 03:38 AM
Nov 2018

Trump used Russian intelligence agents and Russian money to win the presidential election. This is a clear and obvious fact.

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