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Remember when our President wasn't Russia's b**ch? (Original Post) allgood33 Dec 2018 OP
If you need to use asteriks because it is a gendered slur, then do not use a gendered slur obamanut2012 Dec 2018 #1
The other day I saw people lament that... DetlefK Dec 2018 #3
Thanks! PatSeg Dec 2018 #7
Yeah, own it PJMcK Dec 2018 #9
That would be Norman Mailer... RobertDevereaux Dec 2018 #14
Yep, that's the tale! PJMcK Dec 2018 #15
It's the new DU. nt LexVegas Dec 2018 #10
And Republicans don't care Rizen Dec 2018 #2
Interesting post. orangecrush Dec 2018 #5
I actually heard that comment from a man who was lamenting that the US mtngirl47 Dec 2018 #6
Significant, that trump who hates all criticism and vehemently responds to it, so meekly submits, empedocles Dec 2018 #4
I prefer presidents who weren't captured by Russia. nt NCjack Dec 2018 #8
I certainly remember truth, integrity & honor Achilleaze Dec 2018 #11
Those were the days. GoCubsGo Dec 2018 #12
Why not use Russia's "Pawn". Shows correct analysis without the offense. Blue_true Dec 2018 #13

obamanut2012

(26,076 posts)
1. If you need to use asteriks because it is a gendered slur, then do not use a gendered slur
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 07:02 AM
Dec 2018

Lackey, minion, stooge -- all better words to use.

Casual sexism and gendered language is still sexism and gendered language, even when used against sociopaths.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
3. The other day I saw people lament that...
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 07:42 AM
Dec 2018

The other day I saw people lament that astronaut Alexander Gerst behaved like a sociopath and racist towards the robot CIMON when he was field-testing it aboard the ISS.

https://gizmodo.com/in-video-debut-cimon-the-iss-robot-throws-an-unexpecte-1830768737

1. He displayed body-language towards the robot that might or might not have been aggressive!
2. When the robot had a malfunction, wouldn't exit music-mode and accused him of being not nice, the astronaut dared to make an annoyed quip!
3. When another astronaut showed up, Alexander Gerst downplayed the accusations of the malfunctioning robot, which is a clear sign that Alexander Gerst is an abuser and sociopath!

OMG, can you believe that?

Can you believe that an astronaut would treat a defective chatbot as anything but a person?

And the astronaut is definitely also a racist because something-something white people.

PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
7. Thanks!
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 08:28 AM
Dec 2018


We have some really serious issues to deal with these days. Sometimes we need to lighten up!

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
9. Yeah, own it
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 08:58 AM
Dec 2018

I've never understood why posters are willing to imply certain words but try to "hide" them by using asterisks. Like the reader doesn't know which word the writer means!

If you're going to curse, have at it! We're all adults and can handle so-called blue language. Otherwise, dig out your thesaurus and find a better word. English is a profoundly diverse and rich language so use it.

Otherwise, a writer just looks like a jackass.

It reminds me of a story that I unfortunately cannot remember the specific details. A famous author had written a somewhat racy book in which he repeatedly used "fug" in place of "fuck." (I believe his publisher insisted on this substitution.) At a book release party, the author was introduced to a famous and elegant actress. When the introductions were completed, she said, "Oh, you're the guy who doesn't know how to spell fuck!"

RobertDevereaux

(1,857 posts)
14. That would be Norman Mailer...
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 09:44 AM
Dec 2018

In I’m guessing The Naked and the Dead.

“As much as the youthful Norman Mailer may have enjoyed inflating his self-image by inundating friend and foe with a superheated geyser of fucks, his favorite word wasn’t acceptable for the printed page in 1948. The disgruntled (read “pissed-off”) Mailer was forced to substitute the word fug for fuck in his gritty war novel The Naked and the Dead. The story goes that this prompted the waggish starlet Tallulah Bankhead to say upon first meeting Mailer, “So you’re the young man who can’t spell fuck.” If Mailer never wanted to see—or say—another fug in his life, there was a counterculture rock group that thought the euphemism was the ideal name to have to “stick it to” the establishment of the 1960s.”

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
15. Yep, that's the tale!
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 09:47 AM
Dec 2018

Thanks, RobertDevereaux. I thought it was Mr. Mailer but I wasn't sure. I also thought it was Katherine Hepburn so I'm glad to have the correct information.

Enjoy your day.

mtngirl47

(989 posts)
6. I actually heard that comment from a man who was lamenting that the US
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 08:24 AM
Dec 2018

is "letting in so many 3rd worlders" (read: brown people) into our country.

He praised Russia for being a white country. There is no doubt--the support for Trump is about racism.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
4. Significant, that trump who hates all criticism and vehemently responds to it, so meekly submits,
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 07:53 AM
Dec 2018

to putin's ridicule.

GoCubsGo

(32,083 posts)
12. Those were the days.
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 09:20 AM
Dec 2018

I look forward to the day when those "cyberbombs" he had planted in the Russian Internet get detonated.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
13. Why not use Russia's "Pawn". Shows correct analysis without the offense.
Mon Dec 3, 2018, 09:28 AM
Dec 2018

I can be rough on the edges, but I try to avoid gender insult language.

I agree totally with your sentiment, just not your choice of expressing it.

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