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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 12:53 PM Dec 2018

Former DUer's Russian-styled disinformation campaign gets the attention of international media

People who were on this website around 2014 and 2015 might remember a semi-frequent poster who went by the screen name Go West Young Man. This individual's main concern here was spreading what amounted to conspiracy theories, some of which were fairly well-received by a certain contingent. The theories claimed, among other things, that the 2014 popular uprising against Ukrainian strongman president (and Paul Manafort client) Viktor Yankovych was in fact a US led "coup", that Russia's subsequent invasion and annexation of Ukraine's Crimean peninsula was legal, and that the shoot down of Malaysian Airlines Flight 17 over territory held by Russian backed rebels was actually conducted by the Ukrainian government and not the rebels. He also heaped praise upon the Russian government and Russian state run media. Eventually, moderators got tired of his propogandizing shtick and gave him the boot. He attempted to use several sock puppet accounts but those were quickly disposed of.

That poster utilizes the nickname Clarity of Signal on various corners of the internet, including his own personal blog webpage. After being kicked off DU, he attempted to try the same spread of propaganda and conspiracy theories at Discussionist, but that did not last long. Even JackPineRadicals got tired of his act after a while and cut him loose. Nonetheless, he has continued on to spread various forms of Russian state propaganda and conspiracy theories (including a vociferous defense of disgraced Georgia newsanchor Ben Swann, who has spread theories about mass shootings and 9-11 being "false flags", anti-vaxx claims, and gave credence to the inane Pizzagate theory).

His most recent target has been the Syrian White Helmets. The White Helmets are the volunteer group who go in right after airstrikes in Syrian Civil War (usually conducted by either the Syrian government or their partners in the Russian Air Force) to assist victims. They've been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize and were the subject of a popular documentary about their work. However, because their humanitarian work frequently places both the Syrian government and the Russian military in a bad light, they've long been the target of attacks on their mission and reputation.

Apparently, the individual behind Clarity of Signal has been making the rounds over the internet claiming that numerous members of the White Helmets are in fact not humanitarians but rather terrorists, and he has been posting videos of dubious origins claiming such. His claims have managed to become so prolific that France24--France's most prolific television network for international news--was forced to run a fact check on them. France24's article can be found here:

https://observers.france24.com/en/20180511-white-helmets-syria-fact-fiction-debunking

Relevant snips:

The “articles” posted on Clarity of signal include a large number of screengrabs showing Facebook profiles of men said to be White Helmets. The site offers these screengrabs as proof that at one time or another, these men took up arms and fought for rebel groups. These profiles have since been deleted, so we were not able to investigate these claims further.


At least two videos on the site Clarity of Signal are meant to show that the White Helmets share their premises with the Free Syrian Army. They show the same scene: a group of White Helmets in a room in which you can see both the logo of the White Helmets and that of the Free Syrian Army.

Conclusion:

The videos actually show a ceremony in honour of the White Helmets working in Eastern Ghouta and in the Jouber area and was organised by the council of rural areas of Damascus province, an administration made up of opponents to the regime. The ceremony took place in the town of Hamouria in eastern Ghouta on April 12, 2016, in the presence of the president of the council of rural areas, Akram Taâma, and a member of the administration of the White Helmets, Abdallah al-Hafi, according to the agency Smart News.


That the work of one single individual to disseminate false information was so widespread so as to attract actual media attention is rather alarming. And if you go to Clarity of Signal's own website, clarityofsignal.com, it's full of attacks on the Ukrainian government, the White Helmets, talks about "false flags", "the deep state" and "fake news", and even more troubling content. It's mission statement seems to be straight out of the page of what we've seen from Russian internet trolls spreading online propaganda--the likes of which was weaponized to help Donald Trump in the 2016 elections. It reads:

This Clarity of Signal website is part of a larger citizen effort to raise global awareness. Each of us must do our part. This contribution is mine and has taken me the past four years to compile. I thank everybody that has helped gather all this important world changing information that I have now put into one easily accessible resource. May peace be with you and guide your way.


The idea of having a central "distribution source" where propaganda and disinformation could be cut and paste on discussion boards and comment sections all over the internet is Russian Trolling 101. It is exactly what people like the folks at the now indicted Internet Research Agency out of St. Petersburg were doing.

Now, I would not be giving this little cretin and unfortunate DU relic the time of day but for the fact that yesterday he returned to DU under a sock puppet account to post this false, debunked information about the White Helmets. Thankfully, MIRT quickly disposed of him and removed the content, but it was a reminder that there are still a lot of these Russian-style troll accounts attempting to infiltrate this site and push false narratives.

The thing about Go West Young Man/Clarity of Signal is that he does very little to mask his real life persona. A quick 15 minute Google search of documents on the public domain will reveal his real name, where he lives, what he does, who he married, etc. His entire life story is literally front page news for all to see on a local newspaper. And he's been completely unapologetic about specifically his past attempts to troll the Democratic Underground board as well as others.

Now, I don't believe in doxxing, so as much as this individual disgusts me, I'm not going to reveal that information. (For my own ethical/moral sake, not his). It is out there for everyone to see, though. And I can say that this person directly associates with Russian nationals. I can't say and I'm not going to say that I know that he associates with actual agents of the Russian government or is doing business on behalf of people working for the Kremlin, because I simply do not know that to be the case. But he is most definitely pandering a pro-Russian government agenda over the internet and DU was one of his multiple targets.

What this means is that I think there were serious concerted efforts dating back years (even before the 2016 elections ramped up) to target people both on the right and left to push pro-Russian narratives and propaganda. As to places like DU, I believe disassociated leftists who may have had legitimate beefs with past abuses of US foreign policy were targeted to unwillingly buy into and even spread talking points that actually benefited Vladimir Putin and the Russian government, and to change public perception here in the United States.

And unfortunately, as I saw yesterday, those threats have not yet subsided.
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Former DUer's Russian-styled disinformation campaign gets the attention of international media (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2018 OP
OMG... hlthe2b Dec 2018 #1
Question: If he is spreading Russian propaganda why not expose his ID? olegramps Dec 2018 #14
well, his sock names would have been too brief to note, but many here remember: hlthe2b Dec 2018 #15
That's perhaps one of the reasons he choose George Harrison. nt Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2018 #22
Yes, I remember him. Denzil_DC Dec 2018 #2
It rings a bell, but can't say I remember that name. I'm not good w/names. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #23
Thanks for compiling and posting this important information. yardwork Dec 2018 #3
Funny how some DUers were onto this even years back. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2018 #8
Some very good DUers on that thread who left DU because of trolls. yardwork Dec 2018 #9
too many JI7 Dec 2018 #47
She is a smart cookie and I miss her contributions here. boston bean Dec 2018 #37
Intense. H2O Man Dec 2018 #4
Not these guys though. TexasTowelie Dec 2018 #5
It was nice of him to drop by for the holidays this week jberryhill Dec 2018 #6
LOL. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2018 #7
I want to read this...too long since I'm working around moment... FarPoint Dec 2018 #10
So do I. Need some time to read and study. calimary Dec 2018 #12
I'm finally home... FarPoint Dec 2018 #39
Of course someone like that would target This Beautiful Place. byronius Dec 2018 #11
"That the work of one single individual..." CloudWatcher Dec 2018 #13
I'm thinking something along the lines of a regional distributor type of situation. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2018 #18
Yikes karin_sj Dec 2018 #16
I still say that to swing public opinion in a significant way, would take an act of god to do ... SWBTATTReg Dec 2018 #17
This person? WeekiWater Dec 2018 #19
That's him in his glory. nt Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2018 #20
Wow.. big kick for this, thanks for posting. mountain grammy Dec 2018 #21
K&R Scurrilous Dec 2018 #24
Christ on a trailer hitch. Bookmarking. nt Hekate Dec 2018 #25
I remember this fellow, and someone named "Polly." I often pointed out errors of fact. Nitram Dec 2018 #26
Do we know he hasn't stolen someone's identity? rainin Dec 2018 #27
I hope not. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2018 #35
This guy was so batshit insane that even the Jackpines banned him, that's a high level of crazy Tarc Dec 2018 #28
I remember that poster mcar Dec 2018 #29
Holy Shit ismnotwasm Dec 2018 #30
Thanks for posting for us latecomers Bradshaw3 Dec 2018 #31
It was quite an interesting harbinger of things to come. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2018 #34
I honestly don't see that now Bradshaw3 Dec 2018 #38
This was a ton of work. MontanaMama Dec 2018 #32
I believe there's another DU member (inactive but still a member) who assisted... Grasswire2 Dec 2018 #33
Of course, I remember "Go West Young Man", Cha Dec 2018 #36
I KNEW IT !! I KNEW IT !! I KNEW DU IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS SHIT SOMEHOW !!!! uponit7771 Dec 2018 #40
I don't remember that user, but I'm glad he and others like him ecstatic Dec 2018 #41
I bumped heads with him quite a lot.... Adrahil Dec 2018 #42
Yep. I remember the name dalton99a Dec 2018 #43
He had a strange obsession with Victoria Nuland's cookies. OilemFirchen Dec 2018 #44
I encountered trolls for Russia as far back as 1998 McCamy Taylor Dec 2018 #45
Thank you for this Maeve Dec 2018 #46

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
14. Question: If he is spreading Russian propaganda why not expose his ID?
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 02:30 PM
Dec 2018

I mean that as a question that I would appreciate being explored.

hlthe2b

(102,269 posts)
15. well, his sock names would have been too brief to note, but many here remember:
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 02:35 PM
Dec 2018

"Go West Young Man"... He was around for quite some time under that screen name. The sock puppets apparently were rapidly dispatched by MIRT or admins.

I remember he used a George Harrison avatar, which makes it all the worse to me, given what a kind, gentle soul Harrison was. Obviously that choice was likely a manipulative one to gain trust.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
23. It rings a bell, but can't say I remember that name. I'm not good w/names.
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 03:10 PM
Dec 2018

But it does ring a bill...GoWestYoungMan.

yardwork

(61,608 posts)
3. Thanks for compiling and posting this important information.
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 01:01 PM
Dec 2018

The Russian troll farms are real, and the propaganda infects lots of other people as well, making them true-believer zealots (useful fools) who spread a lot of false information.

I remember all the pro-Putin, anti-Ukraine crap on DU.

I also remember the pro-BREXIT crap and pro-Trump crap on DU. And, mostly, I remember zillions of lies about Hilary being posted over and over and over again here.

And we're just one corner of the internet.

FarPoint

(12,366 posts)
10. I want to read this...too long since I'm working around moment...
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 01:45 PM
Dec 2018

I enjoy review of past posters and threads.

byronius

(7,394 posts)
11. Of course someone like that would target This Beautiful Place.
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 02:10 PM
Dec 2018

Center of the Benevolent Universe, man.

All the alien hordes read DU, both good and bad.

CloudWatcher

(1,848 posts)
13. "That the work of one single individual..."
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 02:21 PM
Dec 2018

Is there convincing evidence that this is actually a single individual and not a shared account being run from Russian disinformation groups?

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
18. I'm thinking something along the lines of a regional distributor type of situation.
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 02:54 PM
Dec 2018

With different distributors targeting different types of audiences using different types of messages.

What was pushed here would obviously not work in other places, and visa versa.

I think there were different types of messengers. My suspicions about the Gary Forbes/Pasquariello individual whose messages permeated Twitter and Facebook all throughout the GOP Primaries might be another example of this.

But regarding this particular person. Perhaps he just really, really, really loved Russia. But if I had my money, having read up on him and his background I'm getting a very strong Paul Erickson/Maria Butina scenario playing out here. That's just my gut.

karin_sj

(808 posts)
16. Yikes
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 02:43 PM
Dec 2018

And this sort of thing is no doubt still happening: here, Facebook, Twitter, in the comments section of blogs & news sites, and all over the Internet. These instigators and sock puppets need to be rooted out and removed, so they can't continue to do damage to our democracy and that of other countries.

SWBTATTReg

(22,124 posts)
17. I still say that to swing public opinion in a significant way, would take an act of god to do ...
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 02:50 PM
Dec 2018

so. There are literally billions and billions (perhaps even trillions) daily of email/text exchanges. The ability to influence is getting weaker and weaker on a daily basis, especially when we've been presented w/ evidence that there are those entities seeking to do us harm.

Nitram

(22,800 posts)
26. I remember this fellow, and someone named "Polly." I often pointed out errors of fact.
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 03:50 PM
Dec 2018

A lot of posts included fake "evidence" that the government off Ukraine was fascist.

rainin

(3,011 posts)
27. Do we know he hasn't stolen someone's identity?
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 03:53 PM
Dec 2018

I hope he hasn't set up a victim to be his real life identity.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
35. I hope not.
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 05:37 PM
Dec 2018

But I don't think that's the case.

Based on my read on the situation (and I won't divulge the details publicly) I think it's similar to what we've seen with Erickson and Butina.

mcar

(42,329 posts)
29. I remember that poster
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 03:56 PM
Dec 2018

One of several on DU spreading Russian propaganda during that stretch.

What this means is that I think there were serious concerted efforts dating back years (even before the 2016 elections ramped up) to target people both on the right and left to push pro-Russian narratives and propaganda. As to places like DU, I believe disassociated leftists who may have had legitimate beefs with past abuses of US foreign policy were targeted to unwillingly buy into and even spread talking points that actually benefited Vladimir Putin and the Russian government, and to change public perception here in the United States.

Bradshaw3

(7,522 posts)
31. Thanks for posting for us latecomers
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 04:02 PM
Dec 2018

Some of us more recent members aren't aware of these past attempts so I appreicate you giving this info.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
34. It was quite an interesting harbinger of things to come.
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 05:36 PM
Dec 2018

I remember being inundated with propaganda, and not just from this one particular person.

Bradshaw3

(7,522 posts)
38. I honestly don't see that now
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 06:02 PM
Dec 2018

Maybe I'm naive about it or they just do a good job of taking them out early. I did report one guy a few months ago but he just seemed to be some right wing doofus who didn't understand he was going to be gone quickly by defending drumpf.

I have learned to be more careful about where I get sources that I repost. I tend to be a big tent Dem who thinks trying to understand other point of views (within that Democratic tent of course) can be a good thing but realize now that can also be used against us.

MontanaMama

(23,314 posts)
32. This was a ton of work.
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 04:16 PM
Dec 2018

Thank you for posting - I am bookmarking so I can refer back to this. Just a quick Google search reveals this individual's name and many other details. Holy hell! How many more of these individuals are still here on DU? Eyes and ears open everyone...you never know when they'll appear.

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
33. I believe there's another DU member (inactive but still a member) who assisted...
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 04:31 PM
Dec 2018

....with Russian social media effort during the 2016 election and after. Not going to name that person, but just be aware that people may still be cooperating. The evidence and deep suspicion regarding this particular person was corroborated with a google search where I found that person accused elsewhere by multiple persons on social media of promoting Russian efforts.

Cha

(297,213 posts)
36. Of course, I remember "Go West Young Man",
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 05:37 PM
Dec 2018

and knew it was all a pile of shite.

And, of course, we had members here hanging on every word.. and now he's still trying to sneak back in?!

Thanks for the heads up, Tommy.

ecstatic

(32,704 posts)
41. I don't remember that user, but I'm glad he and others like him
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 07:27 PM
Dec 2018

are gone! We must remain vigilant as the 2020 elections near.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
42. I bumped heads with him quite a lot....
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 07:29 PM
Dec 2018

Even got a hide when I called him out as a pro-Russian shill.

Not surprised by this at all.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
44. He had a strange obsession with Victoria Nuland's cookies.
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 07:46 PM
Dec 2018

Last I saw him, he was pallin' around with ace reporter Nadine Brzezinskii.

Just ewww.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
45. I encountered trolls for Russia as far back as 1998
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 08:22 PM
Dec 2018

on some other forums (obviously not DU). Their English was atrocious. Their main concern was that the Clinton's were enabling terrorists by objecting to Serbian genocide of Muslims.

And yes, I still believe that there were Russia trolls in the mix in 2008 when Clinton was maligned in ways never seen before or after. And no, it was not her gender that sparked it. It was Russia objecting to what she did in the Balkans.

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
46. Thank you for this
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 08:49 PM
Dec 2018

I am aware of the current round of propaganda being peddled here (and have had the pleasure of helping get rid of it); it is interesting to get the background

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