I do not believe trump will be impeached because of paying people to be quiet about his affairs

[still_one]

"hush money", even if it violates campaign finance laws, and other violations.

However, if there is hard evidence that links Trump and others in his administration with colluding with a foreign power to affect the election, along with making deals with that foreign government. such as promising favors that sanctions would be removed, and other special arrangements, I think that is where impeachment is a real possibility

[RDANGELO]

1. I agree.

The campaign violations make him look like a real dirtbag, but it probably won't get him impeached.

[EffieBlack]

2. Agree

It won’t get him impeached - but it will help to wear down his support in the Senate.

[bitterross]

3. I agree.

People feel the hush money is a sort of victimless crime.

[tblue37]

4. Yet they impeached Clinton for lying about a consensual affair with no

hush money and no campaign finance felonies involved.

[bitterross]

5. IOKIYAR

Come on, you know it's only a crime if you're not a white male Republican.

[spooky3]

6. A classic case of IOKIYAR. I agree with the OP.

It's a question of what the average American thinks of the accusations. In the case of Clinton, most people did not believe that what he was accused of was impeachable, but the Republicans misread it. And even though Trump's payoffs to Daniels and McDougall are far more serious charges than anything Clinton was accused of, I think the average American will still see them as personal indiscretions and will not view them as impeachable offenses.

But the conspiracy/aiding and abetting is a different matter. And business crimes may also be.

[still_one]

10. Well stated!!!

[still_one]

8. I understand, but he wasn't convicted, and removed from office. I think colluding with a foreign

power to alter our election, and subvert our democracy, might bring enough republicans to convict

[tblue37]

13. The OP was only about impeachment. nt

[still_one]

14. I know, I am the OP, and I do not believe the House will bring articles of impeachment just for the

hush money. However, there is no doubt in my mind that I believe the House will do it if their is evidence of working with a foreign power to influence our election, plus any other issues involved including the hush money, but I don't believe it will happen if the hush money is the only issue they can get him on.

[Imperialism Inc.]

7. Though he probably won't be impeached he could and should go

to jail once he leaves office if he knew about how the payments were structured. Cohen's payments were undoubtedly a crime (campaign finance). Cohen paid by using a shell company. Then he invoiced the Trump Org for campaign expenditures to get reimbursed. The payments were broken up into 12 payments and the amount was doubled to account for taxes. Purposefully disguising payments intended to reimburse a crime has name and it's money laundering. That's kind of a big deal.

[still_one]

9. Yes, and if thatt should be the case, I suspect he will arrange something like Nixon to procur a

pardon for any current or future crimes involved.

If trump runs and loses, in November, he will resign in before the new president takes over, and have the VP pardon him during that lame duck

[roamer65]

11. Just wait until the Butina case.

The NRA is fucked along with the Dump crime family.

Money laundering is a crime.

[still_one]

12. Those are entirely different issues, and yes, if there is a paper trail, and hard evidence, I agree

with you

[Initech]

15. Oh there's plenty of reasons to impeach him.

But hush money over extra marital affairs definitely ain't one of them.

[ooky]

16. I think the bigger deal in that is the falsifying of documents and

using the Trump Organization to cover up the payments. Especially since it leaves the Trump children exposed to prosecution.

Could it be the beginning of a deal to force him to resign to keep his children out of prison?

[global1]

17. We Should Wait Until Mueller's Report Is Finalized And Presented To Congress &....

the American People. All Trump's crimes collectively will warrant impeachment. That would include these payments/campaign finance infractions; money laundering; emoluments issues; Russian collusion; obstruction of justice; not living up to the oath of presidency; etc. I'm sure that he probably knew about the NRA funny stuff with the Russians and maybe there's even something there with the RNC. I believe a number of Repugs - both in the House and Senate - are probably involved with a lot of this as well and will go down with Trump and his family.

We shouldn't piecemeal impeachment. I know that he's an un-indicted co-conspirator along with Cohen on these payments - but given how everything he does is normalized by the Repugs and how they always circle the wagons around him - I'm afraid that they'll somehow justify that this issue doesn't warrant impeachment. Then when the other issues come up - they'll run with the Dems are on a witch hunt.

If we are patient and wait - collectively all the crimes as listed above in this post - are just too much for the Repugs to justify and they will be forced into voting for impeachment as well.