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Quixote1818

(28,933 posts)
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 11:43 PM Dec 2018

Trump is 'flipping out' and 'there's going to be an intervention' after Mattis resignation:

I am thinking this might be close to a breaking point for Republicans. Republicans are seeing what happened with Syria and Mattis and they are getting very freaked out.




Trump is ‘flipping out’ and ‘there’s going to be an intervention’ after Mattis resignation: Former senior White House staffer

MARTIN CIZMAR
20 DEC 2018 AT 22:35 ET

Snip:

“Trump has been isolated in bunker mode in recent weeks as political and personal crises mount, according to interviews with 27 current and former White House officials, Republican lawmakers, and outside advisers to the president, some of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to offer candid assessments,” the report says.

Things are likely to come to a head now that Mattis is resigning.

“There’s going to be an intervention,” a former senior White House official told the Post. “Jim Mattis just sent a shot across the bow. He’s the most credible member of the administration by five grades of magnitude. He’s the steady, safe set of hands. And this letter is brutal. He quit because of the madness.”

The situation inside the White House was dire Thursday night, the report said. A Republican close to the White House told the Post Trump was in “a tailspin,” acting “totally irrationally” and “flipping out.”

Link: https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/trump-flipping-theres-going-intervention-mattis-resignation-former-senior-white-house-staffer/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Trump is 'flipping out' and 'there's going to be an intervention' after Mattis resignation: (Original Post) Quixote1818 Dec 2018 OP
...Trump was in "a tailspin," acting "totally irrationally" and "flipping out." jcgoldie Dec 2018 #1
Exactly, jcgoldie. The only Cha Dec 2018 #22
In other words, it's Thursday Hekate Dec 2018 #2
hehe jcgoldie Dec 2018 #4
And tomorrow is friday UpInArms Dec 2018 #20
Wheels on the bus? hobby10113 Dec 2018 #36
Well, the ones on this bus UpInArms Dec 2018 #43
Nothing will happen Matthew28 Dec 2018 #3
tRump thrives on this stuff, its his own realty show, you are right, nothing will happen. nt elmac Dec 2018 #25
A real intervention would take him away in a straightjacket. Croney Dec 2018 #5
A real intervention would take him away in handcuffs, not a straightjacket. LonePirate Dec 2018 #28
Doesn't he act that way all the time? Ohiogal Dec 2018 #6
I'm sorry, but... DontBooVote Dec 2018 #7
This isn't America's first dance with fucking up the world. KentuckyWoman Dec 2018 #8
Try enacting the 25th for a start... BigmanPigman Dec 2018 #9
I'm waiting for LOSER45 to tweet his heartfelt opinion that Gen. Mattis is a "lightweight" - Leghorn21 Dec 2018 #10
Rethugs conduct an intervention??? diva77 Dec 2018 #11
That's about what my son in law just told me. PhrankT Dec 2018 #12
An intervention? Way too late for that gratuitous Dec 2018 #13
Your words are like the steady hum around us anymore. PhrankT Dec 2018 #16
The whole country is going to need therapy for PTSD gratuitous Dec 2018 #18
That is the clear reality of what has been done to us. It's time it is said out loud. PhrankT Dec 2018 #21
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT rufus dog Dec 2018 #14
This article is third-party spin of an unnamed source. Don't pin your hopes on it. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2018 #15
I follow ROL Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2018 #17
It's linked to a Washington Post story and quotes from it. Quixote1818 Dec 2018 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author WhiskeyWulf Dec 2018 #19
I seriously doubt it, especially after seeing Paul Ryan and McCarthy laughing and smiling before still_one Dec 2018 #24
Try a 25th Amendment Intervention. elleng Dec 2018 #26
which means welcome pence? AlexSFCA Dec 2018 #30
No Nasruddin Dec 2018 #27
they say it after almost every resignation or firing AlexSFCA Dec 2018 #29
Shame on McConnell and the rest of the wretched GOP. Every time they gain power they take this CentralMass Dec 2018 #31
umm... when is the intervention going to be? After the holidays? ecstatic Dec 2018 #32
There will be no intervention. herding cats Dec 2018 #33
Not with 86% approval rate from Republicans. Today on Gallup. Kablooie Dec 2018 #34
Yes, that's the way I see it too. StarryNite Dec 2018 #40
Like a Raging Bull - from a WSJ editorial question everything Dec 2018 #35
"this might be close to a breaking point for Republicans." blue-wave Dec 2018 #37
I don't think they are getting ready to freak: look at what the GOP congress did today. C Moon Dec 2018 #38
"Trump was in "a tailspin," acting "totally irrationally" and "flipping out." StarryNite Dec 2018 #39
Not close to a real breaking point BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #41
The Only "Intervention"..... LovingA2andMI Dec 2018 #42

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
1. ...Trump was in "a tailspin," acting "totally irrationally" and "flipping out."
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 11:44 PM
Dec 2018

... Sooo just another day in America since 2016?

Cha

(297,210 posts)
22. Exactly, jcgoldie. The only
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 12:34 AM
Dec 2018

difference is it's compounding.

I hope he goes over the edge where he belongs.

Croney

(4,660 posts)
5. A real intervention would take him away in a straightjacket.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 11:51 PM
Dec 2018

They probably still think they can corral him enough to make it appear that he is President of the United States. Won't work.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
8. This isn't America's first dance with fucking up the world.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 11:53 PM
Dec 2018

My guess is that the Republicans completely approve of the shit being done.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
10. I'm waiting for LOSER45 to tweet his heartfelt opinion that Gen. Mattis is a "lightweight" -
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 11:56 PM
Dec 2018

meantime, he’s just gloating about his big House win tonight

Holy shit, this fuckin guy

 

PhrankT

(113 posts)
12. That's about what my son in law just told me.
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 12:00 AM
Dec 2018

Ex Iraq Military Vet USAF.
He only said that something will happen soon with Trump. That he is isolated. That Mattis is well respected among the troops.


He wouldn't say anymore, & I did press him for some answer, some hint but that's it.
I begged him for something more but he just changed the subject.

Hmm.

Maybe he was just being kind with me.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
13. An intervention? Way too late for that
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 12:00 AM
Dec 2018

I have no idea who these shadowy sources are, but they're way too late for an intervention, like this is some junkie who's hit rock bottom. This is an out-of-control manbaby who's facing a crisis he can't buy or bluff his way out of. For the first time in his life. This isn't some deal that's soured and he's going to just walk away. He's locked in for another two years, and he's run through everything in his bag of tricks. He'll gyre more and more out of control, and it's up to the people around him to quit acting like this is at all normal, and we can just wait him out. Too much is at stake, and the people in a position to do something about it are covering their eyes and ears.

 

PhrankT

(113 posts)
16. Your words are like the steady hum around us anymore.
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 12:11 AM
Dec 2018

It's intense and never leaves. It is there in every moment of our lives.

This presidency has got to end. He needs to be looked after and we need a leader.





gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
18. The whole country is going to need therapy for PTSD
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 12:20 AM
Dec 2018

Only after Needy Amin is out of the Oval Office will we have a full picture of what we've been suffering these last two years. Make that "a fuller picture." There will never be a reckoning of all that we've lost.

 

PhrankT

(113 posts)
21. That is the clear reality of what has been done to us. It's time it is said out loud.
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 12:28 AM
Dec 2018

"There will never be a reckoning of all that we've lost."

Thanks for saying the truth.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
14. GOD FUCKING DAMN IT
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 12:04 AM
Dec 2018

THE MOTHER FUCKING REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE JUST BENT FUCKING OVER FOR TRUMP!

Do we really expect the republicans to do the right thing. They aren't going to do jack fucking shit.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,337 posts)
15. This article is third-party spin of an unnamed source. Don't pin your hopes on it.
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 12:04 AM
Dec 2018

Ditch RawStory and read actual reporting.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
17. I follow ROL
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 12:20 AM
Dec 2018

But just for occasional celebrity stuff.

They have been very pro-trump for the last couple years. Somehow connected to trump loyalists but don’t recall how.

Nevertheless...for them to print something negative is interesting.

Quixote1818

(28,933 posts)
23. It's linked to a Washington Post story and quotes from it.
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 12:37 AM
Dec 2018

If you trust the WP then what is quoted is a safe bet. Sure they used loaded words in titles but generally they report mostly from existing news of reliable sources.

Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

still_one

(92,190 posts)
24. I seriously doubt it, especially after seeing Paul Ryan and McCarthy laughing and smiling before
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 12:40 AM
Dec 2018

announced that they agreed with trump regarding going back to Congress to get his wall, even if it means a shutdown



AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
30. which means welcome pence?
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 01:43 AM
Dec 2018

no, let trump drag the entire gop with him all the way to 2020 or we never get out of it.

Nasruddin

(754 posts)
27. No
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 01:31 AM
Dec 2018

An "intervention"? A covey of quails is going to talk manners to an enraged, rabid mountain lion?

Ha-ha-ha-ha!

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
29. they say it after almost every resignation or firing
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 01:42 AM
Dec 2018

and then the news cycle quickly turns to something else. Mcmaster, Tillerson, Kelly, Cohn, etc. At this point it makes sense for trump to pursue his wall at all costs because his base is all he has left. If he start softening his extreme promises, he may lose his alt right base like ann coulter and then welcome pence.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
31. Shame on McConnell and the rest of the wretched GOP. Every time they gain power they take this
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 01:47 AM
Dec 2018

country to its knees.

ecstatic

(32,701 posts)
32. umm... when is the intervention going to be? After the holidays?
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 01:47 AM
Dec 2018

Who knows what else trump will fuck up over the next 2 weeks! The time to act is NOW!

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
33. There will be no intervention.
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 01:49 AM
Dec 2018

They'll coddle the tantrum and feed his psychosis further.

There's not one person in his inner circle capable of intervening where he's involved. Republicans are spineless and just keep enabling the dangerous and mentally unstable Megalomaniac in Chief.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
34. Not with 86% approval rate from Republicans. Today on Gallup.
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 01:58 AM
Dec 2018

Seems absolutely nothing on earth will ever convince them that Trump is anything but God walking on earth.

StarryNite

(9,444 posts)
40. Yes, that's the way I see it too.
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 02:23 AM
Dec 2018

They think he was placed by God so no matter what he does it's the right thing to do. He got a cult following.

question everything

(47,479 posts)
35. Like a Raging Bull - from a WSJ editorial
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 01:59 AM
Dec 2018

Mr. Trump should take this week’s big market selloff seriously as a useful warning. The successful disruptions of the President’s first year emerged from planned strategies executed by allies in the government and Congress. His erratic actions this week are different. Heading into 2019 and divided government, Mr. Trump is acting less like a confident disturber of the status quo and more like a raging bull.

blue-wave

(4,352 posts)
37. "this might be close to a breaking point for Republicans."
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 02:09 AM
Dec 2018

Those rat bastard republicons. We should never.... no, we can never allow them to live down the cluster fuck they created for our country. Send them all to Siberia to live out the rest of their shit stained lives. Although even Siberia would be too good a life for the traitors.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
38. I don't think they are getting ready to freak: look at what the GOP congress did today.
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 02:14 AM
Dec 2018

The slime bag traitors will continue this while they still see a faint light at the end of the tunnel.

StarryNite

(9,444 posts)
39. "Trump was in "a tailspin," acting "totally irrationally" and "flipping out."
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 02:16 AM
Dec 2018

So what's new? He's been acting like this the whole time but his loyal Kool Aid drinkers don't care.

BannonsLiver

(16,386 posts)
41. Not close to a real breaking point
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 02:39 AM
Dec 2018

I don’t buy the “they’ll never break” line so far as it relates to actual GOP power players. I don’t care what his inbred followers think. No one should.

The breaking point will come when the economy crashes and the specter of a wipeout in 2020 becomes clear. Both events are hurtling toward reality. The next 12 months will be a time none of us will ever forget.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
42. The Only "Intervention".....
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 02:53 AM
Dec 2018

Is evoking the 25th Amendment. That's It, That's All..

25th Amendment, Section 4:

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.
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