"I'm not Donald Trump. I'll fuck your shit up".

[LuckyCharms]

[YessirAtsaFact]

1. This is how an American president it supposed to carry himself

Unlike the Trump toady groveling for Putin.

[A HERETIC I AM]

2. 2nd pic:

"You ever touch me like that again you little Bolshevik fuckhead, and I'll snap you in two like a cheap Russian ink pen."

[Haggis for Breakfast]

8. hee hee hee hee

I like the way you think.

[smirkymonkey]

9. *snort*

[question everything]

17. And once upon a time, it would be a "red-blooded" Republican uttering these words.

[A HERETIC I AM]

18. Indeed.

I've got no love at all for Reagan. He was an actor through and through and his policies were ruinous to the middle class, but one thing you have to give him credit for as a president was that he did not put up with any shit.

If he was standing next to Putin and Trump back in Helsinki, he would probably have slapped Trump.

[JHan]

39. I dunno, i've thought about this and I think Reagan would have liked Putin..

pro-anarcho capitalist
Anti-gay
I Just think they would have got along fine. Remember Reagan's despised communism, Russia isn't communist anymore.

[A HERETIC I AM]

43. "Russia isn't communist anymore."

yeah, but Putin appears to be.

Google "Is Putin a Communist" and you'll get several articles suggesting he is, or at least thinks the old Soviet way of doing things was better.

But to be fair and more historically accurate, The Soviet Union was never truly communist either.

I once heard it referred to as "Leninistic Socialism".

He's a strongman, an autocrat, no matter how you slice it. And for that reason alone, I think Reagan would have been about as polite to him as Obama was.

[Ilsa]

57. Putin wants Russian to reacquire its former satellite nations.

They want Estonia, Latvia, Ukraine, etc and to dictate policy to the old Warsaw Pact nations. It's about money and l9cation of real estate with respect to waterways, etc. Communism has nothing to do with it as far as I can tell.

[pangaia]

24. Good one.

I actually 'smuggled' a musical score out through the Moscow airport by giving the security agent an American made pen. I kid you not. January 1985.

[A HERETIC I AM]

36. I believe you.

In the early 90's I worked for a firm that had offices in the engineering area of Detroit Diesel in Redford, MI.

A few of the guys had gone over to a Russian mine to install a large Detroit into a mining truck and had to go back a couple months later to follow up. The second time they took a shitload of those regular, run of the mill Bic pens, both the click style and regular. The Detroit guys gave a few away the first trip and they were an enormously well received gift and the mechanics and technicians over there thought they were priceless.

One of the engineers told me the Russian guy he worked closest with told him the rest of the people looked at that pen as something to be envied.

So when they went back, they took a couple thousand. Spent maybe a hundred bucks at an Office Depot.

Batteries too. D-cell, AA's, all of them. And small flashlights. A small, AAA battery powered flashlight that fits in your shirt pocket. Pure gold to them. Stuff like that.

So yeah, I believe you.

Edit to add;

It's not that it was just a pen or a flashlight or simple batteries, it was that the products WORKED.

[eppur_se_muova]

38. Interesting. I had always read that blue jeans and TP were the usual "currency" ...

Pens would be much less bulky.

[A HERETIC I AM]

45. After I typed that out, I was thinking about the where and when of the conversation I had with that

Detroit Diesel Tech.

They were in the process of packing/boxing/crating up all the equipment, spare parts and whatnot they were going to need to do the followup on the engine install.

And yeah, now that I think of it, they did take a bunch of toilet paper with them!

[Control-Z]

55. Damn. Wish we could recommend responses.

You get a thousand recs from me for this most perfect reply!

[SixString]

3. Trumpskis buddy.

Pathetic.



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[Hermit-The-Prog]

16. sniveling cowardly donnie

He's disgusting.

[UpInArms]

21. And this one at Helsinki

[yardwork]

26. That one worried me. Putin threatened Trump with something.

[calimary]

34. Yeah. The difference in their demeanor as they approached and mounted the podium.

Putin had a visible spring in his step. Smiling, eyes up, facing forward, looking so ON IT. On top of the world. Fit as a fiddle and ready for love. Like one would if one was in a position of dominance.

trump on the other hand almost trudged up onto the platform. Eyes downcast, huffing and puffing with some visible discomfort, frowning. Looking every day of his 70+ years. Constipated, even. Like he’d just emerged from a rough and unproductive sit on the commode.

It was CLEAR who the Alpha was, of the two of them. And it sure wasn’t donald.

I watched that body language and all I had for a takeaway was a big “uh-oh...”

Compare that with the photo of the facedown between Putin and Obama. Putin looked like a penitent acolyte standing before his stern task master. And having to look UP at his adversary - one of the most basic positions suggesting submissiveness. It was clear in that photo who was dominant, who was the Alpha. And it wasn’t Putin.

Night and day difference.

[The Wizard]

60. Remember the Johnson lean

where he'd lean into someone with intimidation as his objective. Johnson usually got what he wanted by using the lean and knowing where the bodies were buried.

[ewagner]

41. Obviously....

This is Trump coming back from being "Taken to the Woodshed" by Vlad...

[Cha]

54. That pic perfectly says what the trumputin relationship

is all about.



Thanks, UpInArms

[UpInArms]

58. Really just sums it all up

Thanks for putting them together, cha

[Cha]

59. They wre begging to be put together!

[janx]

4. President Obama would never talk like that to a foreign leader.

The pictures say enough. I know this is an attempt at humor, but it falls flat.

[GulfCoast66]

5. I agree and disagree.

President Obama would never use the language.

But even at such high levels, human interaction is meaningful. Body language matters.

It was clear every time President Obama met Putin he was not taking any shit.

[orangecrush]

6. Agree 100%

[mahannah]

10. Poor language and poor humor.

[GulfCoast66]

12. So, I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

And admit my language is not that great.

But your point?

The OP demonstrates the difference between President Obama’s greeting of Putin with Trumps.

You have a problem with the OP? Your criptic post went over my head.

Please expound.

[mahannah]

15. The language is silly; the difference between Obama and Trump is old news.

[pangaia]

25. I think it is great.

To the point, clear and, unfortunately, funny.

[yardwork]

27. Old news? Really.

[Mr. Quackers]

46. What? You don't like it when people pick on Trump?

Especially when compared to a REAL president?

And coarse language? OH MY FUCKING GOD, someone grab grandma's old pearls so we can clutch them!

[irisblue]

23. Some DUers come to pick nits. Some DUers come to the picnic

Known as a democratic internet chat board.
My 'expounding'.

[lillypaddle]

31. This

[NJCher]

33. pickin' nits

I think it's perfectly clear that this is the poster putting his/her spin on the nonverbal communication. I'm not big on the use of four-letter words but I thought it was funny. One reason it was funny is that it was clear this was the poster interpreting the n/v communication. Of course Obama wouldn't say anything like that.

BTW, speaking as an interpersonal communications teacher, people might be interested to know that many scholars believe we take as much as 65% of meaning from the nonverbal communication part of the message.

These pictures are remarkable. That Obama holds the power reins is indubitable. However, in the Trump pictures, one gets the feeling Trump is playing the part of the gracious host. "What can I do for you? Can I get you a drink? Anything else?"

In the Helsinki one, Trump appears as a supplicant.

This was a very interesting post. Thanks, OP.

[irisblue]

35. I cannot think of any time in public The President

Ever gave anyone that expression and body language.



Even when that awful Jan Brewer, former gov of Arizona stuck her finger in his face at that airport in 2012, his body language & facial features were still mild. Great restraint that man has.

[Cheviteau]

48. Holy Crap

"Indubitable". I love that word. I use it in conversations when appropriate. Points for using it today. I rarely have occasions to use 'absquatulate', another word I'm fond of.

[3catwoman3]

52. While President Obama would not have spoken like that, it would be...

...pretty surprising if he didn't think like that from time to time.

I got a good chuckle out of your choice of words.

[Loki Liesmith]

51. You don't like it...

And I don’t care.

[yardwork]

28. I agree and I like this OP.

[blue-wave]

7. Sigh.....

That's a pic from an era when American Presidents were great and so was America. We now have one sinking us into a despair to please his Russian boyfriend.

[Volaris]

13. Boyfriend? You mean bull. Trump's Putin's cuck. Full stop.

[Maru Kitteh]

11. Vlad looks like he's making his own pee pee tape right there.

[demsocialist]

14. That is a bad ass picture...nt

[AdamGG]

19. Trump's approach is different...

https://me.me/i/pin-head-pierced-cranium-obama-putin-2016-trump-putin-2017-19403823

[Gore1FL]

20. In fairness, Trump seems to be fucking shit up for everybody. nt

[yardwork]

29. Ok, that was funny!

[PeeJ52]

22. Not too hard to tell who blinked...

[Nitram]

30. Wow! Now that's gravitas!

[Gothmog]

32. I miss having a real POTUS

[IronLionZion]

37. In hindsight, I wish Obama did fuck his shit up

But in the 2012 election it was Romney warning about Russia and Obama laughing it off unfortunately.

Putin decided to just take Crimea from Ukraine in 2014 with impunity. If Russia or China decide to just take what they want, who's going to stop them?

[WinstonSmith4740]

40. Funny...

I don't see that smug look on Putin's face...this one borders on fear.

[Aristus]

42. Caption: "You give me fist-bump, yes? No? You leave me hanging, bro?"

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

44. Bookmarked.

Thanks for the memories. Putin shit his pants when the Big O was near.
"Knock it off!" As I recall.

[pdsimdars]

47. Compare and contrast President meeting Putin as opposed to lap dog meeting Putin. . . .

[FakeNoose]

49. The body language in these 2 photos is very telling

I believe the left photo is from 2017, the right photo is from 2018 in Helsinki.
Trump suddenly shrank about 6 inches in height.



As for the Obama photos - PBO never had a reason to shrink in front of Putin. Nor did he have any reason to smile.

[thegoose]

50. That's when we had a MAN in the White House

Not a blob of compromised orange shit.

[NastyRiffraff]

53. Putin doesn't have that smug smirk

that he almost always does with Trump. He owns Trump; he knows he can't crack Obama.

[Scurrilous]

56. K&R