If I were Trump (thank god I'm not) I would resign tomorrow.

[shockey80]

More and more investigations are starting everyday. He is truly fucked. He should make some sort of deal and resign. If he doesn't he will be completely destroyed along with his family and organization. It may be already too late.

[Arkansas Granny]

1. As I stated in another thread, this is what I expect him to do,

but only after he declares victory.

[shanny]

11. I think so too.

He will either declare that he has already Made America Great Again ("Mission Accomplished&quot and bail; or tell us all that we are too mean and the unfair witchhuntery has prevented him from doing all the Great Stuff he wanted to etc etc etc (poor widdle victim), so he'll just walk (after assurances).

[manor321]

2. It's too late. And if he resigns he can't pardon his family.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

5. I think he can do a blanket pardon of them even before the charges are filed.

[shanny]

7. He can

but not for state crimes--nobody can bail them all out of those.

[Takket]

3. after all the things drumpf has done...

and two years time spent by mueller gathering evidence, i can't imagine mueller would offer him any kind of deal. i think for the good of the country as well mueller and his team need to restore faith in the institution of government and show that the system "still works" even if it is REALLY slow, and let the courts bring him and his cabal to justice.

it was hard enough for me to maintain faith in the system when Bush & Company were allowed to simply walk away from the Iraq war, but I hitched onto Obama's bandwagon and looked forward instead of back. But I cannot do that with drumpf. If someone that guilty of that many offenses can just get away with it, to me that means our entire system over government would be beyond repair and the rule of law is meaningless.

[shanny]

9. Question is why did we have faith in the first place.

Nixon walked away. Reagan walked away. Bush the elder pardoned everybody who could finger him on the way out the door. dimson bush and dickhead cheney walked away. Even that prick Kissinger is still with us, and worse, respected.

And yes, I think now and thought then it was a huge mistake to "look forward and not back." We've been doing that since at least the Civil War and as a consequence have had to fight the same battles over and over. Now we are actually going backwards instead of even standing still. Enough. For the sake of our democratic republic and probably the planet, all these miscreants (not just the tRump crime family) have to be exposed for what they are, and punished.

[Takket]

12. for me personnaly, i am too young for some of the things you mentioned.......

i'm 40. i was 10 years old when reagan left office, too young to understand. nixon left before i was born. i remember growing up liberal because my parents were but still thinking that Reagan was a great president even though he was a republican. only now years later and wiser do i actually know what his policies were and how awful Reagan really was. he basically destroyed the middle class.

[shanny]

14. I hear you.

I was born in the early 50s. Front row seats for the traumas of the 60s and 70s. Hopes and aspirations crushed by assassinations, Vietnam, etc. Watergate felt like a win, but then Ford pardoned Nixon and left all those miscreants free to claim that he never really did anything wrong and was railroaded out of office by political opponents and (particularly) the press.

And all the crap he put in motion was picked up and furthered by Reagan et al. Not just the racism of the "southern strategy", but also everything in the so-called Powell Memo (if you have not heard of it before: a corporate lawyer by the name of Lewis Powell wrote a memo/game plan for the conservative takeover of the country: get control of the chamber of commerce, local governments, school boards, universities, the media, the judiciary, etc etc etc. Sound familiar? Nixon liked it so much he rewarded Powell with a Supreme Court seat and the right has been following the playbook ever since). Looking back we've been losing since RFK was murdered in '68. Will tRump be bad enough to cause a big enough backlash to turn everything around? I don't know, but I have hope...actually for the first time in a long while.

Good luck to us all.

[UniteFightBack]

4. He'll resign if it includes a nice deal...but we're not at that point quite yet and maybe he'll run

out of time. That's kinda what I would like happen. He just has zero support, a lame fuck and he gets voted out and indicted. No pardons in sight by the new Democratic Prez.

[shanny]

6. He might be able to get himself out of federal charges

but I doubt if the states will just drop it now--especially given the glaring example of corruption such a pardon would be.

I think it is too late, and really it was too late the day he won the election. All his spinning, looping and twirling will not get him out of this.

[USALiberal]

8. "He is fucked" predicted weekly, yet he is still president. nt

[cwydro]

10. Yep.

This.

More wishful thinking.

[Wounded Bear]

13. To be Trump, you would have to be a pathological lying asshole...

I don't think you fit that bill.

Therefore, the point is kind of moot.

[coeur_de_lion]

15. Any sane person would resign given his crimes

and the resulting investigations. But he is insane.

He'll go out kicking and screaming.