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(9,685 posts)
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 10:30 AM Dec 2018

Elizabeth Warren Launches 2020 Presidential Campaign

Every person in America should be able to work hard, play by the same set of rules, & take care of themselves & the people they love. That’s what I’m fighting for, & that’s why I’m launching an exploratory committee for president. I need you with me: http://elizabethwarren.com

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Stare Decisis

(229 posts)
1. I can tell you
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 10:39 AM
Dec 2018

there is no frontrunner. If you think you know right now who our nominee will be, you are probably wrong. She has a good chance; many do. But one thing-this keeps Bernie out almost certainly. That wing of the party is now split with her running, and in my opinion, not re-doing 2016 would be ideal. So I do not want Bernie to run. That time has passed. Best guess? None. Except for this:


Watch Steve Bullock.


(63,559 posts)
2. I'm looking at Warren (again) and Harris and Klobuchar because I feel it is imperative that we
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 11:08 AM
Dec 2018

tap the female talent in this country to be our president. It's way past time to get a woman in the Oval Office, leading.

I really like our junior senator, Chris Murphy, but alas, another white male. He's wonderful and I think he would make a find vice president.

By the time Trump is done this country will be needing everyone's talent to save us.



(5,272 posts)
6. I would still welcome both of them on stage. One would be likely to bow out on the early side, once
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 12:00 PM
Dec 2018

we knew who was taking the lion's share of the left-wing vote. I love Warren. I like Sander's rhetoric slightly more, and I think he's more unwavering when it comes to money in politics, and slightly less conciliatory, which means he doesn't have to shut up about it because he's trying to work with those who are still taking that kind of money. On the other hand I think Warren is more wonkish and can more personally dig down into the nitty gritty details of things.

But then Sanders is more popular with that voting contingent than Warren, but then Warren has the advantage of not having a whole swath of Clinton supporters bitter with her. That said, I don't know how many of those Clinton supporters she's going to pull in the primary over Biden or a possible O'Rourke bid anyway, and there are those on the left who take umbrage with her because she didn't endorse Sanders...although that was just smart politics, and she was the only Senator I know of who held out as long as she did as undecided, under tons of pressure to throw in for Clinton to boot.

But I have no idea why this would derail a Sanders bid, since its likely everybody else on stage is going to be splitting votes with each other as well. Biden and Harris and Booker and Gillibrand and O'Rourke, should they all be up there, are going to be drawing from the same contingents of voters. A few are going to situate themselves between Sanders and Biden...(Gillibrand, Booker, Harris), while Biden and O'Rourke sound like they would both offer up the centrist "lets work together...everybody has good intentions...." tragedy. That might sell to enough democrats though not to those of us on the left. The problem is it just isn't true and Obama's Presidency should put that flowery notion about the other side of the aisle to bed once and for all.


(47,439 posts)
3. Start taking the hits early, which is good. Or she might be there just to draw fire.
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 11:12 AM
Dec 2018

Which is also good.


(14,122 posts)
7. She's one of a very few contenders who knows how to work a crowd.
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 12:14 PM
Dec 2018

It’s an elusive combination of cadence and charisma. Obama, of course, had it. O’Rourke has it. Gillum and Abrams have it. Biden does too, to a lesser degree. I’ve not seen it in most of the others; I hope I’m wrong.

She was a Republican for a number of years. I don’t see that hurting her support on our side and might help sway some on the right. She knows their policies are failures.

I think Warren’s message will resonate with millions of workers who have been getting screwed by policies that favor the very wealthy. Whether or not she becomes the nominee, she will shape our message this cycle for the better.


(9,616 posts)
8. I like Elizabeth, she's a very down-to-earth type person and the kind you would love to have for a
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 12:25 PM
Dec 2018

neighbor. If she's the nominee I'd happily vote for her. She's wicked smart, kind, generous and does not suffer fools.


(34,077 posts)
9. She's wicked smart.
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 12:25 PM
Dec 2018

I'm glad one of the bigger names has stepped forward. We've been letting the media decide how to frame the Democratic race since the midterms and it hasn't helped us at all.


(21,939 posts)
10. The DNA thing showed me she's not ready for a national stage. Trump got her goat and all I see is
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 12:51 PM
Dec 2018

someone who isn't super interested in listening to native voices about her stunt.

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