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Tue Jan 1, 2019, 07:42 PM

4Warned is 4Armed

Here is what is being posted at 4Chan re: Elizabeth Warren

Elizabeth Warren has announced a run for the presidency. Now is the time to move.

Go to the New York Times comment sections. Go to Reddit. Go to Twitter. Pose as a concerned Democrat and criticize her for being white. Criticize her for being a woman. Do whatever it takes to further divide the left and prevent them from unifying behind a candidate for 2020.

If we can manufacture another Bernie/Hillary split, they'll get crushed in the general election.


It's the primaries, so I get that there are going to be some frank exchanges of opinion among the DUers. Let's keep in mind that, no matter who we support in the runup to 2020, the ultimate goal is to rid this nation of a corrupt president who threatens our democracy.

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Reply 4Warned is 4Armed (Original post)
Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2019 OP
ProudLib72 Jan 2019 #1
Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2019 #5
ProudLib72 Jan 2019 #13
Ferrets are Cool Jan 2019 #2
Grasswire2 Jan 2019 #3
empedocles Jan 2019 #4
Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2019 #7
pecosbob Jan 2019 #6
Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2019 #8
demmiblue Jan 2019 #9
Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2019 #10
guruoo Jan 2019 #11
guruoo Jan 2019 #12
DRoseDARs Jan 2019 #14
Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2019 #15
DRoseDARs Jan 2019 #16
vercetti2021 Jan 2019 #17

Response to Algernon Moncrieff (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 07:46 PM

1. We should go to the NYT comment sections, Reddit, Twitter

and pose as a concerned MAGAT, hurl shit at the Rump and divide the MAGATS.

Oh wait, that doesn't actually work with them, only us.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 08:09 PM

5. I think most people who aren't into politics have no idea what gets posted on Reddit & 4Chan

To me, the best thing that can be done is to turn over the rocks and shine the light on what the Pedro the Frog crowd posts. Then put more mainstream voters on the spot - you really want to cast your lot with these vile bigots?

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Response to Algernon Moncrieff (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 09:45 PM

13. No, I'm just pointing out how we are easy targets with our divisiveness

And when social media does not police itself, it lets itself be weaponized by the deplorables.

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Response to Algernon Moncrieff (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 07:55 PM

3. What do they have to say about a Biden-Beto ticket?

Much harder to split Dems if you don't run previously identified factions against each other.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 08:04 PM

4. Candidate till has to make it through the divisive primaries without

too much damage - which hurt Hillary in 2016.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 08:13 PM

7. Whoever runs, they will try to focus on something - race, color, stand on an issue - to sow division

We are not all going to agree on issues, or whether the party is best served by putting up a candidate of a particular gender, age, or stand on an issue. However, we all need to agree that whoever we nominate needs to defeat the current occupant of the Oval Office.

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Response to Algernon Moncrieff (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 08:11 PM

6. Candidates need the integrity to tell their handlers to fuck off when they tell them to go low

I know they can't legally control or coordinate third party ads, but leave cannibalism to the Republicans.

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Response to pecosbob (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 08:14 PM

8. More often than not these days, the PACs deliver the low blows

It allows the candidates to keep clean hands.

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Response to Algernon Moncrieff (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 08:16 PM

9. It is already happening here.

I recently saw a post that said that Sen. Warren was too white.

And there are plenty here who are stoking the Bernie crap.

I hope they are happy with themselves.

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 08:50 PM

10. We need to refocus on the concept of resistance and wait until summer to get into the primaries

I wrote a rant to that effect the other day.

If we are going to discuss the primaries, my view is that we need to approach any discussion with these things in mind:

1) There is literally no point in re-fighting 2016
2) When we discuss our dislikes/disagreements regarding primary candidates, we need to do so in the paradigm that almost any of them would represent a vast improvement over the current occupant of the White House. Joe Biden is a better person than Donald Trump; Elizabeth Warren is a better person than Donald Trump; Bernie Sanders is a better person than Donald Trump; Beto O'Rourke is a better person than Donald Trump; I could go on, but you get the idea.
3) The Democrats are a spectrum. We don't universally agree on how to implement a national health plan; what role capitalism should play; whether budgets should be balanced; is the Third Way a bad or good thing; and many more. Even issues such as legal abortion and guns can cause disagreement. But In 2000, and again in 2016, people lost sight of what separates the Democratic Party from movement conservatism. Fundamentally, it is empathy for all people and common decency. As much as we disagree with FOX, we don't call it out as the enemy of the people. We don't mock disabled reporters. We call out supporters of racism. We don't believe that your money automatically qualifies you as being intelligent or a leader, and we don't believe your poverty is automatically a result of your laziness or your bad choices. We believe who you worship and who you love is your own damn business. We can all find fault with a candidate we dislike who has fallen short of these ideals, but again I point out that the enemy is those who want America to be a nation run by a cabal of nominally Christian wealthy white people that pays lip service to equality and democracy.

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Response to Algernon Moncrieff (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 09:26 PM

11. Kudos - I could not have put it better. nt

 

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 09:34 PM

12. They're gleefully happy, even tauntingly boastful - for now n/t

 

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Response to Algernon Moncrieff (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2019, 10:45 PM

14. I remember a time when 4Chan was simply a birthplace of memes. I miss that time.

 

Now it's just an absolute cesspool.

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Response to DRoseDARs (Reply #14)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 12:12 AM

15. The obsession with Pedro the Frog over there is bizarre

However, it's harmless.

Their hatred of diversity and love of authority is also bizarre, but very harmful.

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Response to Algernon Moncrieff (Reply #15)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 12:16 AM

16. Replace Pedro with an anthropomorphic swastica. Pedro is not harmless. Pedro is a symbol.

 

We may find it cartoonish, his creator created him as a harmless cartoon, but the fact remains he's become a symbol for these shitstains. It's a dark facet of meme culture in the Internet age. Pedro's creator has been fighting this for a while now, horrified and pissed his character has been co-opted.

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Response to DRoseDARs (Reply #14)

Wed Jan 2, 2019, 01:04 AM

17. I use to use it in those days

It wasn't a shit place but since it's overrun with incels, nazis, and racists sacks of shit, I bailed. I just hung out in the gaming all the time.

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