Pence Says Trump Thought Presidents on TV Were Talking Privately to Him

[babylonsister]

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the national interest 8:57 A.M.
Pence Says Trump Thought Presidents on TV Were Talking Privately to Him
By Jonathan Chait
@jonathanchait
Vice-President Mike Pence. Photo: Alex Edelman/AFP/Getty Images

Last week, President Trump asserted that several of his predecessors personally told him they wished they had built a border wall. “This should have been done by all of the presidents that preceded me,” he said. “And they all know it. Some of them have told me that we should have done it.” Reporters have reached out to all living former presidents and ascertained that none of them did so. This morning, NBC’s Hallie Jackson asked Vice-President Mike Pence to name the former presidents who had secretly told Trump to build the wall:

Link to tweet

“I know the president has said that that was his impression from previous presidents, previous administrations,” replied Pence. “I know I’ve seen clips of previous presidents talking about the importance of border security.”

So rather than concede that Trump made up these private conversations, Pence is saying Trump saw them say it on television, and imagined they had told him this face-to-face. Is that actually better?

[dogman]

1. Is this like Nixon talking to the portraits on the walls?

Hope the pattern continues.

[lagomorph777]

13. No, this would be like the portaits on the walls talking to Nixon.

[griloco]

32. 😆

[FakeNoose]

53. In sign language, no less!

[lagomorph777]

56. LOL!

[SWBTATTReg]

57. I love it!!!!!!!! nt

[politicaljunkie41910]

60. None of the former Presidents wanted to sit next to him at GHWB's funeral much less talk

to him. So why would they have told him they agreed with him, in secret? Puhleeze!!! We're talking about GWB whose brother Jeb, he mocked mercilessly; Bill Clinton whose wife he stole the election from; Barack Obama whose birth certificate he questioned throughout his presidency and claimed was not a US citizen, and therefore an illegitimate President; and Jimmy Carter who you'd have to go a long way to piss off, yet he was seated as far away from Trump as he could get. Probably didn't want Trump hitting on his wife, Rosalind.

[PJMcK]

2. Hey, Pence!

Answer the fucking question!

Jackass.

[NewJeffCT]

9. I wonder if she also will ask him

How can Donny consider this a national emergency when over 90% of the money allocated for border security has not been spent.

[2naSalit]

28. I've only heard someone

mention this once, over a week ago. I think it was Rachel Maddow

[NewJeffCT]

30. Sen. Chris Murphy from CT

has mentioned it several times via Twitter.

[2naSalit]

33. Good to know.

I'm not on twitter so I miss a lot of that info unless I happen to see it posted here.

[trueblue2007]

55. i feel sooooooo sorry for Pence & his FROWNING little eyebrows. His Lying Eyes EYE. What a Moron!!

I DETEST HIM.

[House of Roberts]

3. This is as bad

as Reagan remembering scenes from his movie career as factual events.

[WheelWalker]

4. Pence is quite the fixer-upper.

[Blues Heron]

5. oh the lies we weave when we practice to deceive

every last minute of every day

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

51. It's just all out "say anything" at this point.

They're so deep in lies it'll never be untied. We need to create some news to pull viewers from the stupid speech tonight. How about a truth option?

[Iliyah]

6. Shithole is talking to dead presidents?

No, he has voices in his head with different personalities.

[NewJeffCT]

7. Every president wants border security

there is a difference between having secure borders and only building a wall.

[tanyev]

8. Not sure how that talking point is supposed to help Trump, but please proceed.

[Dem_4_Life]

11. Just keep digging a deeper hole...

[malaise]

10. So Pence publicly admitted that the Con is

a fucking lunatic.

[babylonsister]

12. Haha!

Yes, pretty much!

[malaise]

14. There is no other possible interpretation sis

[Botany]

17. Yup!

People on the TV machine were talking just to him.

Trump might have a point with Fox and Friends along w/Hannity because he
really does talk to them and watches them too.

Trump's "kitchen cabinet."

[malaise]

18. Fox and Friends for sure but

presidents?
Funny how they said nothing about this until all the former presidents denied speaking with him on the subject.

[LiberalArkie]

35. Just schizophrenic

[malaise]

36. OK then

Please proceed loonies!

[exboyfil]

15. Trump has a Ouija board

He has been in contact with Jackson and Wilson. I got to think both of them would have supported a wall.

[ChazInAz]

44. That explains it.

It's just that he was actually talking to Nikita Krushchev and Leonid Brezhnev.
Anyone could make that mistake.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

16. There's a difference between talking about border security and demanding a wall.

These guys will say anything to protect Herr Mushroom Dick.

Besides, every one of the four ex-presidents has denied having ever talked with Trump (with the exception of pleasantries exchanged at Senator McCain's funeral), much less advocate a border wall.

[malaise]

19. What the Con claimed

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/07/trump-claimed-ex-presidents-told-him-they-wanted-build-wall-four-them-say-its-not-true/?utm_term=.352aba433953
<snip>
Trump claimed ex-presidents told him they wanted to build a wall. Four of them say it’s not true.

President Trump made the remark during a lengthy appearance in the White House’s Rose Garden on Friday, in the midst of an extended soliloquy about the border wall that he has yet to find funding or widespread political support for.

[dalton99a]

26. It was very clear

"This should have been done by all of the presidents that preceded me. And they all know it. Some of them have told me that we should have done it."

[malaise]

27. Correct is right

[dlk]

20. More Evidence Trump is Delusional & Pence is a Major Enabler

Pence had to twist himself into a pretzel on this one!

[LakeSuperiorView]

21. In an attempt to regain some sense of dominance, he made sock puppets for the former Presidents

It was conversations between Dipshit and the sock puppets where he was told that the wall should have been built long ago....

[watoos]

22. OT, but I wonder if mommy is happy with daddy,

spending so much time, sometimes alone, with Cruella DeVille the head of Homeland Security?

[SDJay]

23. When I See This Utterly

soulless drone, programmed to lie or say whatever needs to be said to further his agenda, I get this feeling of dread, as though I'm witnessing pure evil.

He gives me the creeps on a level even the Orange Shitstain doesn't - at least with President Shit-for-Brains, I know I'm looking at a narcissistic lunatic. With this scum, I'm looking at someone who may someday have an alien shoot out of his abdomen and eat the planet.

[LW1977]

24. Pemce is lickng his chops

Wants to be President.

[Nitram]

25. Cuckoo! Cuckoo! Cuckoo! Time to wake up! We've got a madman in charge of our country!

[hunter]

29. Okay, I get it. Trump and Pence are both going to plead insanity.

No, no, they're not stupid criminals and liars; it was the voices on the television that made them do all those bad things!

[Texin]

31. The fact that Pence is having to (try to) finesse this should be worrying to tRump.

Added to that is those meetings he was supposedly having with congressional members (of both sides from what I understood), seems to imply that there's been a subtle shift of sorts. Why is Pence the one taking those meetings? Telling a journalist that "...clips of previous presidents talking about the importance of border security" is definitely not the same thing as building a giant stone border wall or jailing toddlers. Basically, Pence just flat out implied that tRump only gets his ideas from watching television and he interprets those talking images as speaking directly to him. Of course we knew that already, but it's like Pence just pointing to tRump and saying out loud he's as deluded as your dementia-ridden grandfather.

[Marthe48]

34. No one likes to become the parent

but it is way past time to take the reins of power away from this crazy s.o.b.

Let competent, able, knowledgeable, decent people run the United States, and get rid of the crooked whack jobs running it now.

[leftyladyfrommo]

37. Oh, please. He was just lying again like he always does.

Whatever seems good to him at the time. He never seems to think that someone is going to check on it.

But it is strange that Pence would throw him under the bus like that.

[1democracy]

38. Always remember Pence was picked by Manafort...aka Putin

[HipChick]

39. How long do we have to endure this shitshow? Imagine if President Obama was stating that he was

having imaginary conservations..

[Heartstrings]

41. Something to the effect of

"But all the other presidents before me told me to wear this tan suit".....

[czarjak]

40. "Inaccurate facts"

[Chemisse]

42. The headline is misleading.

Basically Pence is saying that Trump lied.

[Maru Kitteh]

48. Yup, and it's totally okay because some presidents said something like that sometime

That is what Pence is saying.

[3Hotdogs]

43. On my television, there is the usual bullshit and fake news coming out of the news broadcasts. But

I have a corner of the screen, its usually on the lower right side of the screen but sometimes it moves up and down. And its a bit blurry but Our President sometimes shows up out of the blurry space and tells me what's fake and what's real so's I know the difference. He don't always come in clear but most he does.

Sometimes, its not Mr. Trump who shows up but its the Virgin Mary. She helps make stuff clear sometimes to tell me when Beto is lying. Once, the Archangel Michael appeared out of a big cloud. He said to always listen to what Michael Pence said because Michael Pence and Michael (Angel) are the same person as reborn. Mr. Angel Pence appears courtesy of Lot to tell what is gonna happen to me if I don't listen to Mr. Trump. Now tha's scary, I tell ya.

My wife tells me to turn off that shit when she hears me in dialog with Mary. But I don't listen to her because she had sex before we was married so I know its possible Satan talks through her. I know that Mother wouldn't tell Mr. Pence to turn off the fuckin' thing like Agnes tells me to do because Mother never did no sinnin'.

I wishes I had a wife like Mother instead of what I got.

Thank you for listening.

[Midnightwalk]

45. Was the TV on?

[Major Nikon]

46. It's not a lie if the voices inside your head make you believe it

The truly fucked up part is in the case of Trump this is a totally viable excuse.

[Maru Kitteh]

47. I think Pence just sucks at trying to talk his way out of crap like this. I think he was trying

to say other presidents have said border security is important so therefore it's okay for Trump "exaggerate" this a little bit and say they "told him" the same thing. Everybody knows nobody likes or talks to Trump.

Cue "Lonesome Loser"

Have you heard about the Lonesome Loser?
Beaten by the Queen of Hearts every time.
Have you heard about the Lonesome Loser?
He's a loser but he still keeps on trying.

Sit down, take a look at yourself
Don't you want to be somebody?
Someday somebody's gonna see inside
You have to face up, you can't run and hide.

[CatWoman]

49. is it me

or does Pence has that look of someone who has been taken hostage?

[babylonsister]

50. Nah, he went and is going willingly. nt

[tblue37]

52. But talking about border security is NOT the same as saying they should've built a

wall. Pelosi, Schumer and other Democrats are talking about improving border security, too.

So even if his feeble mind is referring to clips of past presidents he has seen in TV, that still doesn't mean he heard them saying they should've built a wall.

[Thekaspervote]

54. Yup pence is sheriff Justice t Buford's son

https://www.google.com/search?q=sheriff+buford+t+justice&client=safari&hl=en-us&prmd=ivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj0k9bq3d7fAhWe_YMKHYkjBV0Q_AUoAXoECAoQAQ&biw=1024&bih=666#imgrc=nZPob1fDehxZIM

[mercuryblues]

58. This is worse than trump lying about

"private conversations." Much, much worse.

He is saying IMF45 believes that former presidents are sending subliminal messages, through the TV, that only he can hear and understand.


This is akin to people believing that aliens are sending them messages through their fillings.

[treestar]

59. No it does not make it better, it makes him sound insane

Like Charles Manson thinking the Beatles were talking to him on the White Album.

[Solly Mack]

61. Wow

No shock though. Not really. Pence has no shame either.

[Buckeyeblue]

62. So 45 is crazy and Pence is just dumb.

Things are a mess.