The "uncommitted delegates" strategy in Iowa failed to produce any uncommitted delegates.

[LoZoccolo]

[WI_DEM]

1. And turnout was much higher for Obama than it was for Bush in 2004.

[MineralMan]

2. That's hardly a surprise.

Cenk just doesn't have that long a reach. Folks in Iowa haven't even heard of him, I guess.

[rurallib]

3. sure we have

we had a couple that went uncommitted but that wasn't enough to get a delegate based on the 15% rule.

[WI_DEM]

6. I'm sure there were some, but it certainly wasn't what they were hoping. Not like '76 when

uncommitted led the way.

[LoZoccolo]

4. I wonder what Cenk will say about it today.

[MineralMan]

21. I predict he will say nothing.

Blog posts are transitory, which lets pundit bloggers say pretty much whatever they want, then forget they ever said it later.

Bloggers can propose stupid things with impunity, over time.

[frylock]

5. so y'all got your little non-gender specific undergarments twisted for nothing

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edited for the tender sensibilities that appear so prevalent here at the DU3.

[WI_DEM]

7. just another example that those who say there is wide spread dissatisfaction with

Obama among democrats are wrong, or else there would have been enough democrats coming out to vote uncommitted.

[MineralMan]

24. Yup. Overestimating the popularity of

a stupid idea is pretty common with some. Apparently, Iowa Democrats weren't having any. Either that, or they don't know who the hell Cenk is. I'm pretty sure it's the latter.

[frylock]

27. does that also include the "do-you-want-president-ginromneypaulpalinbachtorum" to pick the next SCJ?

or are we singling out disgruntled progressives exclusively?

[Whisp]

19. sexist statement

and a sexist jury allows this to stay.

alright, I can have my fun now with this 'jury system', thanks for giving me the heads up

[MineralMan]

22. Personally, I wear briefs. I like them, because they never get

twisted. Kind of a sexist comment, though, isn't it? Kinda rude, too, it seems to me. Not nice, either.

[MineralMan]

29. Thanks for editing. Most people won't review the previous

version, so that's very good. You took the sexism out of it and replaced it with snark. Bravo!

[girl gone mad]

8. Occupy Iowa changed their plans at the last minute.

I think because many were told they would not be allowed to speak. A couple of others reported being bullied into leaving.

Not really a shining moment for democracy.

[Robb]

9. Could be.

[WI_DEM]

10. Yes, right that is why they didn't get enough votes

come on--Occupy Iowa is that timid they still wouldn't have gone into the caucuses and when votes were being cast not vote uncommitted? There just isn't as much opposition among democrats for President Obama as some people want to think.

[girl gone mad]

15. I can only tell you what I know.

OI changed strategies because the Obama campaign made hundreds of thousands of robocalls in Iowa promising people an event/party with a live televised speech. It essentially changed the atmosphere of the caucuses from one of open debate to that of a political rally for the OFA troops.

Iowa is not really a hotbed of dissent, is it? I think those dissatisfied with Obama took their votes to Paul, judging from his exit polling.

[LoZoccolo]

17. I think people are curious as to how you know that.

[phleshdef]

23. If they took their votes to Ron Paul, then they have no place in Dem nominee decision making.

[MineralMan]

25. If they took their votes to Paul,

they don't belong in the Democratic caucuses in the first place. Paul is not a Democrat. Perhaps you hadn't heard...

[MineralMan]

28. Uh, candidates often address caucuses.

Even at our tiny little precinct caucuses in Minnesota, candidates have visited us and have spoken. At the district conventions that follow, there are always candidates making speeches. Do you think that President Obama should not address the Iowa caucuses? I suspect that most Iowa Democrats like President Obama, and would be happy to hear him speak.

[MilesColtrane]

11. Occupy Iowa was not allowed to speak where?

Did they send members to every single precinct caucus?

[LoZoccolo]

12. Maybe Cenk will report what you did, prefaced with "some people say".

[randome]

13. The revolutionaries were bullied?

You're right. Not a shining moment for democracy.

[girl gone mad]

16. Sad that exercising democracy is considered a revolutionary act.

I wonder if you like what that says about our country and our political process.

[randome]

18. No, I don't.

But I think if OWS wants to style itself as revolutionary, it had better do more than get itself into situations where they are easily removed or ignored.

[girl gone mad]

20. Like I said, OI abandoned the plan.

The people who did turn out to caucus uncommitted were not affiliated with OI to my knowledge.

[sufrommich]

14. Do you have a link for those accusations? nt

[MineralMan]

26. Really? How hard would it have been for OI folks to

show up at their local caucus and vote for uncommitted? That option was available to them. Did they not caucus at all? Did they boycott the caucuses?

I guess I didn't see that announcement. Are you in Iowa?