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mcar

(42,307 posts)
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 09:06 PM Jan 2019

Pierce: Nancy Pelosi Jabbed the President* Right in His Tender Ego

Nancy Pelosi Jabbed the President* Right in His Tender Ego

The Speaker has rescinded Trump's invitation to address Congress because of the shutdown.

BY CHARLES P. PIERCE
JAN 16, 2019

From what I read in The New York Times, it appears that Speaker Nancy Pelosi is not playing...

George Washington addressed a joint session of Congress but, two presidents later, Thomas Jefferson thought that too similar to the way things were done by the King of Great Britain in Parliament, so he took to sending a written message. That practice held until 1913, when Woodrow Wilson astounded the capital by delivering a speech. The one constant is that the president has to be invited to deliver the message to Congress. This president* just got himself uninvited. You can almost hear the weeping from the executive suites of the cable news outlets.

George Washington addressed a joint session of Congress but, two presidents later, Thomas Jefferson thought that too similar to the way things were done by the King of Great Britain in Parliament, so he took to sending a written message. That practice held until 1913, when Woodrow Wilson astounded the capital by delivering a speech. The one constant is that the president has to be invited to deliver the message to Congress. This president* just got himself uninvited. You can almost hear the weeping from the executive suites of the cable news outlets.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a25923124/nancy-pelosi-pull-trump-state-of-the-union-invitation/

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Pierce: Nancy Pelosi Jabbed the President* Right in His Tender Ego (Original Post) mcar Jan 2019 OP
Here's the link: The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2019 #1
It's not safe. left_of_center Jan 2019 #2
One thing for certain 2naSalit Jan 2019 #3
Notice he hasn't given her a silly nickname mcar Jan 2019 #4
Very much so. 2naSalit Jan 2019 #6
Good point customerserviceguy Jan 2019 #10
It would be something like Naughty Nancy. zonkers Jan 2019 #11
Naughty customerserviceguy Jan 2019 #12
Yeah. I was thinking he could say it like Lyyyyyyyyyin Ted.. Nauuuuuuuuughty Nansay. zonkers Jan 2019 #13
Good point customerserviceguy Jan 2019 #15
You know, it is so surreal. We are sitting here, yacking about this lunatic president while he is zonkers Jan 2019 #18
We have to do something customerserviceguy Jan 2019 #19
I'm sure he has one for her. He just hasn't used it publicly yet. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #22
He may mcar Jan 2019 #25
I suspect any nickname Dolt45 has for Speaker Pelosi would have to be bleeped on TV csziggy Jan 2019 #32
K&R Scurrilous Jan 2019 #5
She's goading him customerserviceguy Jan 2019 #7
He can't give the speech in person mcar Jan 2019 #9
I was not aware customerserviceguy Jan 2019 #14
But of course he's not smart mcar Jan 2019 #16
If he goes on live TV customerserviceguy Jan 2019 #17
Traitor tot Donald will strike out Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #8
"audience" is all he thinks about - whether "television audience" or "rally audience" UTUSN Jan 2019 #20
What Does the Second Paragraph Add?? DoctorJoJo Jan 2019 #21
It's an excerpt from the NYT article mcar Jan 2019 #26
All I can say is that I am just so glad that Nancy Pelosi is the Speaker of the House. smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #23
Donnie doesn't even read! SCVDem Jan 2019 #24
Why do Americans go on and on about powerless King George? dubyadiprecession Jan 2019 #27
In this instance, Jefferson would have to explain Mariana Jan 2019 #33
Aw, MF45 won't have a captive audience shanny Jan 2019 #28
I read that he was going to use the speach to trash the Democrats. Maybe Pelosi wanted wasupaloopa Jan 2019 #29
Madam Speaker... Autumn Jan 2019 #30
She is great! mcar Jan 2019 #31
The world awaits Trump's "State of the Union Tweet-storm" JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2019 #34

2naSalit

(86,580 posts)
3. One thing for certain
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 09:24 PM
Jan 2019

dolt45 can't handle a woman who holds equal power in the same government that he thinks he owns, and one is able to outsmart him at every turn. He may have an aneurysm by the end of the month.

2naSalit

(86,580 posts)
6. Very much so.
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 09:35 PM
Jan 2019

The worst he can come up with to show disrespect is to call her Nancy. He can't accept her title. She scares the hell out of him. She can tell him "NO" and it means "NO". That's got to be the worst thing for him to have to live with on a daily basis.

good.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
10. Good point
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 09:54 PM
Jan 2019

Trump usually comes up with something, like Cryin' Chuck for Senator Schumer, but so far, he has refrained from calling her "Nasty Nancy" or something like that. There's a deep-seated reason for that, when it comes down to a man who is used to insulting women.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
12. Naughty
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 10:01 PM
Jan 2019

is not an extreme enough word for Trump, if he were going to really mess with her with a nickname.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
15. Good point
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 10:04 PM
Jan 2019

His "theatre", if you will, makes timid remarks sound much worse when listening to them rather than reading them.

 

zonkers

(5,865 posts)
18. You know, it is so surreal. We are sitting here, yacking about this lunatic president while he is
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 10:22 PM
Jan 2019

destroying our county doing Putin's bidding.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
22. I'm sure he has one for her. He just hasn't used it publicly yet.
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 11:29 PM
Jan 2019

He's in the honeymoon phase. Trying to appeal to her better nature and woo her. Surely she will succumb to his charms, esp. once she sees his big hands up close.

If that doesn't work, he'll move to the derogatory nickname phase.

This is new for him, having a Congress he doesn't own. So he's feeling his way. He'll get used to it and revert to his regular juvenile ways.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
7. She's goading him
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 09:51 PM
Jan 2019

into giving that speech in person, subjecting him to the boos of her Democratic members in Congress. There will be no message to "behave yourself" and that's being done for a purpose.

It might work, but there are a couple of dangers. First, Trump's base will attach even more to him once he is attacked in this way, and there is the chance of even more irrational behavior as a result of the humiliation.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
14. I was not aware
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 10:03 PM
Jan 2019

that the formal invitation has been withdrawn, it sounded just like kind of caution to me.

If Trump is smart, he will indeed do the SOTU by a written document.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,342 posts)
8. Traitor tot Donald will strike out
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 09:52 PM
Jan 2019

He will try to punish everybody. The gutless GOP will cower. Moscow Mitch will continue to block anything that might lead to his own dirty deeds being uncovered.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
23. All I can say is that I am just so glad that Nancy Pelosi is the Speaker of the House.
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 11:34 PM
Jan 2019

I don't think anyone else could have handled this better than she could.

dubyadiprecession

(5,707 posts)
27. Why do Americans go on and on about powerless King George?
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 09:38 AM
Jan 2019

Prime minister North was the one calling the shots.
The king was nothing more than a rabble rousing Limbaugh or Ingraham.

Mariana

(14,856 posts)
33. In this instance, Jefferson would have to explain
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 10:49 AM
Jan 2019

why he decided to mention the King when he explained his decision to write rather than give a speech. He's not around to answer you, though.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
29. I read that he was going to use the speach to trash the Democrats. Maybe Pelosi wanted
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 10:31 AM
Jan 2019

to prevent that.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,339 posts)
34. The world awaits Trump's "State of the Union Tweet-storm"
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 11:23 AM
Jan 2019

I only hope he'll remind us of his great electoral victory and the immense throng at his inauguration. Otherwise, we might forget the grandeur of his coronation.

"The state of the union is broken, shut down, disfunctional, Just as Bannon and I planned it".

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