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kpete

(71,986 posts)
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 02:37 PM Jan 2019

Trump at Pentagon: Entire room stayed silent and did not applaud his partisan remarks

Today at Pentagon in front of top commanders Trump blamed what he called Democratic "fringe" and "radical" left. and Speaker Pelosi for not acting on his border plans. Entire room stayed silent and did not applaud partisan remarks.




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Trump at Pentagon: Entire room stayed silent and did not applaud his partisan remarks (Original Post) kpete Jan 2019 OP
I hope the lack of praise made him feel tiny, weak, foolish, and GreenPartyVoter Jan 2019 #1
He didn't get the shame gene. You need one of those to feel "tiny, weak, or foolish". Texin Jan 2019 #39
He must have laid off his traveling cheering section dalton99a Jan 2019 #2
LOL GreenPartyVoter Jan 2019 #3
They must be part of the mikeysnot Jan 2019 #30
The Coast Guard is and that has to piss them off sarge43 Jan 2019 #44
I was amazed to learn they are funded under DHS 912gdm Jan 2019 #56
Didn't use to be. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #63
Thank you! I'm with you on DHS - and ESPECIALLY the Patriot Act! nt scarletwoman Jan 2019 #77
Coast Guard is not part of the DOD vlyons Jan 2019 #80
Yes. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #81
I didn't say it was part of the DOD sarge43 Jan 2019 #82
K&R Scurrilous Jan 2019 #4
K&R...👍🏼👍🏼 spanone Jan 2019 #5
I'll bet that was unnerving for him. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #6
I'll Bet He (Deservedly) Suffered smb Jan 2019 #9
Great clip! NurseJackie Jan 2019 #11
Boom goes the Dynamite!! aeromanKC Jan 2019 #15
They sense he's a traitor. BSdetect Jan 2019 #7
I would say "They know he is a traitor" Perseus Jan 2019 #21
bingo TeamPooka Jan 2019 #40
That had to piss him off. He expects everyone to fawn over him Va Lefty Jan 2019 #8
They are not "his" generals, and he has by now wrecked the careers & reputations of too many... Hekate Jan 2019 #10
Yup. grumpyduck Jan 2019 #26
Trump considers them his underlings... After all, he is 'smarter than the generals'. keithbvadu2 Jan 2019 #52
Hitler was sure he was smarter than the German generals and admirals bobbieinok Jan 2019 #62
Amen! COL Mustard Jan 2019 #76
they put themselves in danger of being fired. MUST APPLAUD TRUMP Demovictory9 Jan 2019 #12
He should have done the speech in front of Putin's Generals. He would have gotten applause. kairos12 Jan 2019 #13
Nah. He doesn't give speeches in front of Putin's "package." calimary Jan 2019 #49
You mean the Put-in package ... aggiesal Jan 2019 #59
OUCH! calimary Jan 2019 #86
Someone should take that video and add a laugh track... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #14
K&R, thanks for posting red dog 1 Jan 2019 #16
This gives me hope. Shanti Mama Jan 2019 #17
That is great to hear. Dem_4_Life Jan 2019 #18
Ooops!!! The military does not agree with the wannabe dictator Perseus Jan 2019 #19
There is another reason why the pentagon is "frayed." watoos Jan 2019 #20
Exactly! Duppers Jan 2019 #32
The service members in the room know... Aviation Pro Jan 2019 #22
Agree w/ you totally!! Once a dickhead, always a dickhead. Bolton too. nt SWBTATTReg Jan 2019 #36
Trouble with his feet keithbvadu2 Jan 2019 #74
They have figured out the key to getting under his skin without breaking rules. appleannie1943 Jan 2019 #23
Surely, you jest? I didn't view his speech there but no applause? Say what???? allgood33 Jan 2019 #24
Do "top commanders" usually applaud a President at the Pentagon? Without knowing, I have no idea BamaRefugee Jan 2019 #25
Barbara Starr Duppers Jan 2019 #33
She's been at this for a long time. I suspect she knows. calimary Jan 2019 #50
Exactly! Duppers Jan 2019 #57
Here's Obama at Pentagon, surrounded by "top commanders" I didn't hear any applause at all. BamaRefugee Jan 2019 #42
Apples & Oranges (No pun intended) Cheviteau Jan 2019 #54
It doesn't really matter what happened with other Presidents, Marie Marie Jan 2019 #55
Military commanders can't be happy that $$ for the wall at140 Jan 2019 #27
Unlike the rank and file, the top brass know what is required of them. shanny Jan 2019 #28
that ought to shake him up a bit. barbtries Jan 2019 #29
The chances of a military coup d'etat are increasing by the day. roamer65 Jan 2019 #31
Don't say that. This is still a civilian led democracy WhiteTara Jan 2019 #46
Not gonna happen. tazkcmo Jan 2019 #65
Doubtful. Blue_true Jan 2019 #83
What nonsense. cwydro Jan 2019 #84
Future News: tRump announces U.S. military parade in Red Square. ffr Jan 2019 #34
"IVANKA!! I NEED A CAMPAIGN RALLY NOOOOOOOWWWWWW!! bullwinkle428 Jan 2019 #35
Silence? Good first step, oh ye top commanders. Now here's your next step... RobertDevereaux Jan 2019 #37
tRUMP has screamed from the podium that he KNOWS MORE THAN THE GENERALS, mocked gold SayItLoud Jan 2019 #38
I'm hoping that some senior folks at the Pentagon and all over the military maxrandb Jan 2019 #41
Agreed and thanks for Serving Capperdan Jan 2019 #60
Shoot PatSeg Jan 2019 #70
I see a dog with Doreen Jan 2019 #43
Douchebag is not paying one of our 5 branches of the armed forces IronLionZion Jan 2019 #45
Yup sarge43 Jan 2019 #72
it reminds me of this... Javaman Jan 2019 #47
STEINER!!! underpants Jan 2019 #53
My fantasy: The Pentagon REPLACED the nuclear codes. . . DinahMoeHum Jan 2019 #48
Oh, that had to hurt! NastyRiffraff Jan 2019 #51
Trump and Stephen Miller seem to share the opinion... dchill Jan 2019 #58
How would those 2 morons get along without THEIR government perks whathehell Jan 2019 #88
K&R BlueJac Jan 2019 #61
good for them scarytomcat Jan 2019 #64
He's lost the Pentagon Hangdog Slim Jan 2019 #66
Tee-hee-hee snicker... defacto7 Jan 2019 #67
When a Repub loses the military honchos, he must be the fugged fool, Dotard Donnie. Hassler Jan 2019 #68
Good. Hope he gets the msg: The whole world waits for him to be gone from office. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #69
happy hour at the "O" club onethatcares Jan 2019 #71
Meanwhile at a Navy-industry conference nitpicker Jan 2019 #73
They certainly applauded him after being introduced and Vadem Jan 2019 #75
Cheeto has more medals than anyone at the Pentagon FakeNoose Jan 2019 #78
He's a loser. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #79
He is not intelligent enough warmfeet Jan 2019 #85
Does Trump understand who "Deep Throat" was? Probably not. McCamy Taylor Jan 2019 #87

Texin

(2,596 posts)
39. He didn't get the shame gene. You need one of those to feel "tiny, weak, or foolish".
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 03:55 PM
Jan 2019

But I bet he got the nauseous part.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
44. The Coast Guard is and that has to piss them off
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 04:03 PM
Jan 2019

In spite of some of snarky remarks "shallow water sailors", the Coast Guard is well respected through out the service. Plus, if they're treated like this, we could be next.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
63. Didn't use to be.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 05:53 PM
Jan 2019

It can be undone. DHS needs to be re-visited. It was a wartime addition for security. Seems like now DHS has gobbled up several perfectly good branches of the military to try to dig in like a tick. Patriot Act and DHS....no longer needed like they SAID we did in 2003 etc. Increased govt size by 18%. And growing.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
80. Coast Guard is not part of the DOD
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 09:24 PM
Jan 2019

It used to be organized under Customs in the Treasury Dept. Now it's organized under Homeland Security.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
82. I didn't say it was part of the DOD
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 09:28 PM
Jan 2019

It never has been, except during WWI and WWII when it was assigned to the Navy as was the Marine Corps.

However, as said it is a branch of the armed service.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
21. I would say "They know he is a traitor"
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 03:17 PM
Jan 2019

I hope he is not being briefed with security information.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
10. They are not "his" generals, and he has by now wrecked the careers & reputations of too many...
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 02:51 PM
Jan 2019

...of their brothers-in-arms.

This is a good sign. They are not supposed to be a political arm of any party, and should not ever ever be the cheering section for a potus on a rant.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
62. Hitler was sure he was smarter than the German generals and admirals
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 05:34 PM
Jan 2019

In the early days of his reign he did a few things the generals warned him against. His ploys succeeded, and from then on he was sure he knew more than the generals.

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
76. Amen!
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 08:12 PM
Jan 2019

You nailed it. The military is supposed to be non-partisan, non-political. Of course in the real world politics inserts itself into the military just like any other organization. And military members are allowed to have political opinions just like anyone else.

Demovictory9

(32,453 posts)
12. they put themselves in danger of being fired. MUST APPLAUD TRUMP
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 02:55 PM
Jan 2019

or gaze at him adoringly like Pence or call him "GREAT PRESIDENT" like kiss ass Sarah Saunders.

calimary

(81,238 posts)
49. Nah. He doesn't give speeches in front of Putin's "package."
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 04:33 PM
Jan 2019

No speeches. But I suspect there is some bending over on his part.

aggiesal

(8,914 posts)
59. You mean the Put-in package ...
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 05:23 PM
Jan 2019

instructions for the Put-in package.
1) Stand in front of Vlady, facing away.
2) Bend over.
3) Putin Put-in package
4) Enjoy (well, maybe not).

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
14. Someone should take that video and add a laugh track...
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 02:55 PM
Jan 2019

... add laughter at the moments where he's trying to be serious. Add record-scratch and cricket sound effects at the obvious "applause-lines".

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
19. Ooops!!! The military does not agree with the wannabe dictator
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 03:16 PM
Jan 2019

That is a very good sign, I hope the military brushes him off completely, he does not deserve to be the "commander-in-chief", he is too incompetent, and crazy to carry that role.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
20. There is another reason why the pentagon is "frayed."
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 03:17 PM
Jan 2019

Just read an article on Raw Story about how Trump is still pushing the pentagon to come up with options for attacking Iran. Bolton has always wanted to bomb Iran and Mattis is gone. That's why they didn't clap because they know he is a mad man.

Aviation Pro

(12,164 posts)
22. The service members in the room know...
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 03:24 PM
Jan 2019

...they are being talked to by a fucking traitor and five-deferment coward.

A lot of Cold Warriors remember.

 

allgood33

(1,584 posts)
24. Surely, you jest? I didn't view his speech there but no applause? Say what????
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 03:26 PM
Jan 2019

The storm is coming....

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
25. Do "top commanders" usually applaud a President at the Pentagon? Without knowing, I have no idea
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 03:27 PM
Jan 2019

what this proves?
Anybody know?

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
33. Barbara Starr
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 03:45 PM
Jan 2019

Barbara Starr has been CNN's Pentagon correspondent for almost 18yrs. I think she knows what she's implying.

Your question is a good one, however. 👋

calimary

(81,238 posts)
50. She's been at this for a long time. I suspect she knows.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 04:38 PM
Jan 2019

She’s certainly seen enough of these POTUS visits over the better part of two decades on this beat.

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
42. Here's Obama at Pentagon, surrounded by "top commanders" I didn't hear any applause at all.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 04:01 PM
Jan 2019

I don't think it's a huge issue, it's just that it seems Dems are crowing about every little thing being some huge victory now against tRump, I'm all for the victories, but not for what seems like maybe more propaganda than facts!
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=obama+adress+at+pentagon&&view=detail&mid=51BDEBBA06E2293DD51651BDEBBA06E2293DD516&&FORM=VRDGAR

Cheviteau

(383 posts)
54. Apples & Oranges (No pun intended)
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 05:11 PM
Jan 2019

I watched your posted clip. There were no 'applause lines' in Pres. Obama's speech as what Trump was wishing for in his. Obama's talk was about military operations and successes...nothing about domestic politics. Trump was on a rant against Pelosi and the Democrats. Why do that in front of a captive military audience? Yes, the commanders sitting with their hands in their laps after that rant means something. Exactly what I don't know. More importantly, what did it mean to Trump?

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
55. It doesn't really matter what happened with other Presidents,
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 05:16 PM
Jan 2019

Trump EXPECTS his audience to cheer and applaud his every word. The fact that they didn't will piss him off.

at140

(6,110 posts)
27. Military commanders can't be happy that $$ for the wall
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 03:33 PM
Jan 2019

Will eventually come out of their budget!

WhiteTara

(29,705 posts)
46. Don't say that. This is still a civilian led democracy
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 04:14 PM
Jan 2019

hanging by a thread. They just need to back the constitution when trump is carted away.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
65. Not gonna happen.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 05:55 PM
Jan 2019

Our military is a professional military and the vast majority of the people in it take their jobs seriously.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
83. Doubtful.
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 10:13 PM
Jan 2019

Military commanders are supposed to stay above politics. They did what commanders should do.

RobertDevereaux

(1,857 posts)
37. Silence? Good first step, oh ye top commanders. Now here's your next step...
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 03:53 PM
Jan 2019

Practice this: Shout out in unison at the end of every sentence he bloviates: "FUCKING RESIGN RIGHT NOW!"

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
38. tRUMP has screamed from the podium that he KNOWS MORE THAN THE GENERALS, mocked gold
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 03:53 PM
Jan 2019

star father and family and taken credit for other women and men in uniforms brave actions.... so any commander regardless of rank who would applaud anything he does or says should be ashamed at the very least.

maxrandb

(15,324 posts)
41. I'm hoping that some senior folks at the Pentagon and all over the military
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 04:00 PM
Jan 2019

have made it clear to the fucking moron that our troops are not fucking pawns and props for his political bullshit.

I served 30 years in the Navy, and I NEVER once saw a politician come and give a speech that was even remotely "partisan".

It's never been fucking proper for them to do so. Only this asshat has take advantage of captive audience troops to provide cover for his political attacks.

I'm betting that the senior folks let the troops know that they WOULD NOT react to partisan attacks.

Capperdan

(492 posts)
60. Agreed and thanks for Serving
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 05:33 PM
Jan 2019

I served 6 years in Army Reserves, my Dad over thirty, retired as full Colonel, and my brother 4 years in the Navy, three trips to Nam. All of us are sickened by this clown. Every day with him in office is painful to watch.

PatSeg

(47,419 posts)
70. Shoot
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 06:24 PM
Jan 2019

He even did it in front of the Boy Scouts. He makes every event a political rally. If he'd been allowed to speak, he would have turned HW Bush's funeral into a partisan event as well.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
43. I see a dog with
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 04:03 PM
Jan 2019

tail tucked, ears down pointing to the side, and head lowered while slinking out of the room.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
45. Douchebag is not paying one of our 5 branches of the armed forces
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 04:04 PM
Jan 2019

he's screwing the Coast Guard pretty bad. Many of them don't have savings to pay their family's bills if they miss a paycheck.

Plus he politicizes the military more than other presidents.

DinahMoeHum

(21,784 posts)
48. My fantasy: The Pentagon REPLACED the nuclear codes. . .
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 04:29 PM
Jan 2019

. . .on the "nuclear football" with FAKE CODES. If Trump is dumb enough to use the "nuclear option" out of sheer spite, the Pentagon will know of the fake codes being activated and that will be their signal to step in and perform the odious-but-necessary task of deposing him, physically, if need be.

Well, I can dream, right?

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
51. Oh, that had to hurt!
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 04:50 PM
Jan 2019

He loves applause above almost anything else. He often DEMANDS it. Good for the people at the Pentagon for not feeding his ego.

dchill

(38,483 posts)
58. Trump and Stephen Miller seem to share the opinion...
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 05:21 PM
Jan 2019

that government workers are all Democrats and all military members are Republicans. Sheesh!

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
88. How would those 2 morons get along without THEIR government perks
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:32 PM
Jan 2019

and pay?

Trump is rich enough to get by, although he might miss AIrforce One -- Miller is not rich, AFAIK.

BlueJac

(7,838 posts)
61. K&R
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 05:33 PM
Jan 2019

Usually this kind of stuff was filmed in Back and White. This Orange Tick is just hurting people because he can. In color!

Hangdog Slim

(81 posts)
66. He's lost the Pentagon
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 05:59 PM
Jan 2019

Trump lost the Pentagon for good after Mattis left in disgust. I don't know that he had a ton of respect from military commanders before hand, but he has none now. No credibility at all with them. Mattis is deeply respected and in many ways revered. He shit in his own rice bowl when he disrespected his former Secretary of Defense.

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
73. Meanwhile at a Navy-industry conference
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 06:56 PM
Jan 2019

The brass expressed appreciation for their overseas partners.

Vadem

(2,596 posts)
75. They certainly applauded him after being introduced and
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 08:08 PM
Jan 2019

he kept thanking them for the warm welcome!

I turned him off then. So happy to hear that that was the end of the warm welcome.

On second thought, perhaps it was HIS staff that was doing the applauding!

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
85. He is not intelligent enough
Thu Jan 17, 2019, 10:20 PM
Jan 2019

to see the writing on the wall. He is done. He will either resign, not likely, or he will be thrown out of office. His days as POTUS are numbered.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
87. Does Trump understand who "Deep Throat" was? Probably not.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 09:26 AM
Jan 2019

The U.S. military is charged with defending the Constitution and with protecting this country from threats from abroad. Trump is currently the biggest threat from abroad.

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