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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 07:52 AM Jan 2019

Furloughed workers in tears as they line up for free sandwiches from celebrity chef Jose Andres

WASHINGTON — Volunteers from celebrity chef Jose Andres' World Central Kitchen fed thousands of people in need on Wednesday, not in some far off flood zone, but right here in Washington at a small store front at the Navy Memorial on Pennsylvania Avenue.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/politics/furloughed-workers-in-tears-as-they-line-up-for-free-sandwiches-from-celebrity-chef-jose-andres/65-f6c8742f-2371-4f3b-b9bf-40b7e9fc978f

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Furloughed workers in tears as they line up for free sandwiches from celebrity chef Jose Andres (Original Post) mfcorey1 Jan 2019 OP
It's like a freakin' third world country. Laurian Jan 2019 #1
I think that Third World is actually the goal Hekate Jan 2019 #20
"making America great again" isn't really working, is it? dubyadiprecession Jan 2019 #2
You can go ahead and say it. pazzyanne Jan 2019 #4
I had a vision of drumph lining up for a plate of spit stew, in his orange overalls. BSdetect Jan 2019 #3
Love your vision. pazzyanne Jan 2019 #5
Learn more & donate here: Sentath Jan 2019 #6
Just did. akraven Jan 2019 #9
Thank you JDC Jan 2019 #26
Better than the hamberders Trump fed Clemson Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2019 #7
I was just down with my sister & family in D.C. for a couple days back in November BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #8
This man should get a Nobel Peace Prize, or something to honor his great contribution to smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #10
Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #11
hey man, everyone's situation is different. Back off and be glad it's not you. JuJuYoshida Jan 2019 #12
Kids don't do well in school living on Ramen. And having to pay to get to that non-paying job costs haele Jan 2019 #13
thank you! Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #18
No... it's called projecting your own experience onto everyone else. LanternWaste Jan 2019 #14
I don't know there situations exactly but I'm guessing many of those people earn more than I do. Joe941 Jan 2019 #16
72% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck MissB Jan 2019 #17
Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #23
I'm not sure what the point of judging is. MissB Jan 2019 #24
Hoo-boy... DontBooVote Jan 2019 #25
Does making poor.choices in the past mean you don't "truly" need help now? marylandblue Jan 2019 #29
Well.. Joe941 Jan 2019 #31
Yes, there's that saying, but marylandblue Jan 2019 #36
nice talking points Kali Jan 2019 #37
It illustrates how dramatic the economic divide moonscape Jan 2019 #19
I'm all for AOC 70% tax rate. Joe941 Jan 2019 #22
It must be wonderful not to have to live DangerousRhythm Jan 2019 #27
I'm far from lucky. I consider myself poor. Joe941 Jan 2019 #28
Maybe you should rethink poverty DangerousRhythm Jan 2019 #30
Bernnie understands issues like this. Joe941 Jan 2019 #32
That's great. It doesn't help the furloughed right now. DangerousRhythm Jan 2019 #33
I find your attitude :can't say and still observe the rules: Stinky The Clown Jan 2019 #35
You're missing something here Charlotte Little Jan 2019 #38
Don't criticize these people. You don't know what their situations are. There are so many that live Cousin Dupree Jan 2019 #39
Try living on disability... backtoblue Jan 2019 #40
.. Cha Jan 2019 #15
And the GOP Extortion Program of 2018 - 2019 rolls on. lpbk2713 Jan 2019 #21
If you get a chance bdamomma Jan 2019 #34

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
1. It's like a freakin' third world country.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 08:00 AM
Jan 2019

I’m sure many of these folks are locked into these jobs because of accrued time toward retirement, etc. Working for no pay is a form of slavery. Cruel and unnecessary. I hate that they are going through this because of a man with no morals, empathy or compassion.

Horrible.

dubyadiprecession

(5,722 posts)
2. "making America great again" isn't really working, is it?
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 08:24 AM
Jan 2019

It’s more like “turn America into miserable place to live”.

akraven

(1,975 posts)
9. Just did.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 02:22 PM
Jan 2019

I hate this. I hate this so bad. I want that orange asshole GONE. My neighbor (ATC) is okay, we're all seeing to that, she only lives about 2 miles down the hill. But my GAWD, having to line up for free food because an orange asshole decides he needs to showboat?

I understand their tears. But mine are of anger.

BumRushDaShow

(129,492 posts)
8. I was just down with my sister & family in D.C. for a couple days back in November
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 10:34 AM
Jan 2019

and we were on a Big Bus tour that went by that memorial (got a pic of it). It's a big plaza with a bunch of poles configured like "ship masts" with nautical flags, and would be sortof unassuming if you drove past it and didn't know what it was. It's about a mile from the WH.

Had to hunt to see how he got that spot to set up the pop-up kitchen in the adjacent buildings and found this -

Andrés currently runs a test kitchen and private event space called ThinkFoodLab at the location.

https://www.washingtonian.com/2019/01/14/jose-andres-shutdown-pop-up-kitchen-dc-federal-employees/


Kudos to him and his volunteers!
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
10. This man should get a Nobel Peace Prize, or something to honor his great contribution to
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 02:28 PM
Jan 2019

humanity. He and his volunteers have stepped in numerous times now to give desperate people hope and a free meal. He could easily be one of those people who could just focus on his own "celebrity chef" status but he uses his position to do good in the world. Thank god for these people! It's just unfortunate that the reason they have to do this is so stupid and petty.

Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

JuJuYoshida

(2,216 posts)
12. hey man, everyone's situation is different. Back off and be glad it's not you.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 02:43 PM
Jan 2019

It's called compassion Joe

haele

(12,679 posts)
13. Kids don't do well in school living on Ramen. And having to pay to get to that non-paying job costs
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 03:39 PM
Jan 2019

Kids have to eat and go to school. And some school districts in the DC area don't have free school bus service and don't let the kids just leave school unattended walking or on a bicycle like we had it when we were kids - I'm not even talking about private schools.
Not every government employee has a job that pays well, either. Many lower level employees live in subsidized housing, or depend on federal programs like SNAP or WIC, or commuting subsidies (that pay for the Metropass to get them to and from work) other assistance programs to help make ends meet for their families. They're already living cheaply to begin with - take away their paycheck - and then don't let them apply for unemployment because you're forcing them to work, and it's a disaster.

Math doesn't help when you're being forced to go to a job and suddenly there's no longer a subsidy to pay for that $300 - $500 a month commute to the job you're not getting paid for, and there aren't any other jobs around the area you live that. And you can't file for unemployment to make ends meet if you're working nor can you file for unemployment if you quit.

Whenever I was laid off as a federal contractor, I've never had to face what these people are facing.

Those two conditions alone are $1500 or so a month hit to the savings you're taking that you can't budget or odd-job/Ebay/garage sale your way through.

Put in the requirement to pay for Auto insurance just to be able to drive your paid off clunker without getting it towed by the cops should something happen on your way to and from that non-paying work, rent, and any other required utility bill during the winter months, and you may be looking at more than $3K a month you have to come up with no matter if you're getting paid or not. With little to no option other than tapping into savings or selling off all your possessions. Remember, you're not getting unemployment.
You're being forced to go to work as if you were being paid that $11 - $20 an hour with benefits if you want to keep the job that you hope to be getting back pay for as soon as the shut-down is over.

Theses people are trapped. So yes, they eat for free in the food lines while they're draining their savings and credit cards to keep the roof over their heads, their kids healthy and able to learn, and the minimum of utilities, because who knows, the Government may open up next week, or the week after - depending on how long Mitchie can continue to waste what little political capital he has left running cover for the Orange Tantrum thrower and the Federalist Society.

Haele

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
14. No... it's called projecting your own experience onto everyone else.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 04:15 PM
Jan 2019

"It's called math people."

No... it's called projecting your own experience onto everyone else.

And that ain't math. Or rational.

 

Joe941

(2,848 posts)
16. I don't know there situations exactly but I'm guessing many of those people earn more than I do.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 04:51 PM
Jan 2019

I doubt there is a government job that makes less than me.

Response to MissB (Reply #17)

MissB

(15,812 posts)
24. I'm not sure what the point of judging is.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 11:34 PM
Jan 2019

But perhaps you could consider compassion instead. It’s way more rewarding.

 

Joe941

(2,848 posts)
31. Well..
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 11:56 PM
Jan 2019

Obviously everyone makes mistakes and deserves a 2nd chance. But there is an old saying: a failure to plan on your part doesn't constitute an emergency on my part. Obviously we wont let anyone starve or anything, but what do you think? How much should people be protected against themself? Vs having freedom to mess up?

Universal health care would be a good thing but I don't know about universal ... fill in the blank. Just thinking out loud...

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
36. Yes, there's that saying, but
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 12:16 AM
Jan 2019

what does it really mean? When someone needs help, do you first ask them if they have a contingency fund? If they say no, do you tell them to come back only when they are "starving?" If they say yes, do you tell them to go spend it first, then starve and come back? What if they just spent all their money on a different emergency last month?

There are so many ways someone can end up in a bad place, some are their own fault and some are not. When they are struggling, it is not the time to criticize their planning. It's time help them where they are at. When the crisis is over, then it's time to tell them to plan better for next time.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
19. It illustrates how dramatic the economic divide
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 05:06 PM
Jan 2019

has become the last decades. The reality that 40% of Americans cannot cover a $300 emergency is stunning, but where we are and what we need to change, but hey, the 1% got a staggering tax cut ...

DangerousRhythm

(2,916 posts)
27. It must be wonderful not to have to live
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 11:40 PM
Jan 2019

paycheck to paycheck.

Not everyone has that luxury. I sure don’t. I’d be completely fucked. And what’s this about poor choices, bootstraps and such?

Consider yourself very lucky, Joe. It seems you have no clue how lucky you actually are.

 

Joe941

(2,848 posts)
28. I'm far from lucky. I consider myself poor.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 11:43 PM
Jan 2019

Certainly make less than most. Honestly Bernnie would fix it with guaranteed salaries.

DangerousRhythm

(2,916 posts)
30. Maybe you should rethink poverty
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 11:49 PM
Jan 2019

if you actually believe the poor can live 3 months with no income and then rely on a credit card, setting the thermostat lower and killing cable.

Bernie can’t and won’t fix this. In the meantime, people in a crisis don’t need to be looked down upon for not having thousands of dollars saved up.

Charlotte Little

(658 posts)
38. You're missing something here
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 12:30 AM
Jan 2019

If you listen to the woman who's interviewed at the end of the segment say that she's got no change to spare and totally get why, you might also get the point of all of this angst (and need for a free hot meal). The point is that those of us who live paycheck to paycheck know that it doesn't take much longer than one month to be evicted. Rents/Mortgages alone are like having one's leg chained to a concrete pillar. You're stuck or in the streets (if you have no one to help you - many don't). Missing one paycheck when you're told that it could be months or even years before you get paid means hording every dime you have.

These Americans don't know what to do. They would like to keep the job many of them have worked at for years. Leaving would mean passing up on retirement benefits. So, they stay but without pay. Now, imagine if the government shutdown goes on for weeks or even months (if years, then America will actually be a third world country). This possibility will force some of these folks to quit and find other jobs- which takes time. Unemployment benefits are measly and don't pay the rent. So what if, while looking for a new job, you blow through your savings. Then what? I know that I fear being homeless almost more than anything else. I think most of these folks have a similar, very universal fear.

They are facing a void and are scared (and stressed) out of their minds. If what you say is true about you being poor, then why are you being harsh? I find that odd, actually.

Cousin Dupree

(1,866 posts)
39. Don't criticize these people. You don't know what their situations are. There are so many that live
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 12:40 AM
Jan 2019

paycheck to paycheck through no fault of their own.

backtoblue

(11,345 posts)
40. Try living on disability...
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 01:21 AM
Jan 2019

One check away from being homeless.

Alot of people don't have a way to save for being out of work for a few weeks, or longer.

lpbk2713

(42,766 posts)
21. And the GOP Extortion Program of 2018 - 2019 rolls on.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 05:09 PM
Jan 2019


Trump and the other assholes have plenty of food on their plates, so they don't really GAF.


bdamomma

(63,922 posts)
34. If you get a chance
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 12:10 AM
Jan 2019

watch Bill Maher, he explains this very well. It's very sad and true. We, as the Middle Class (disappearing) have been getting squeezed for a very long time. This is what the Koch Brothers wanted.

Remember have people received an increase on their minimum wages??? And now IRS refund checks are going to delayed. Repigs don't pay their taxes. Look at that POS Trump, have we seen his tax forms???

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