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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHere's a question for Schultz. Why do so many of his employees live in poverty?
He's a billionaire at the expense of his employees. He runs a massive global corporation. So why can't his employees afford the basics of life? Health insurance? Rent/mortgage? Transportation?
The perception is that jobs at Starbucks or McDonald's are not REAL jobs, but something teens do for spending money. That perception is false. This perception is at the heart of income inequality.
magicarpet
(14,150 posts)You make it sound like being rich is a sin.
Haven't you heard of the "Prosperity Gospels According to Jesus" ? Read your Good Book sometime.
Besides what is that royal catch all phrase ?
"Let them eat croissants and kosher bagels smeared with dollops Russian caviar."
Anyways, there are ample crumbs on the floor below the royal buffet tables,... for the serving and clean up crews to grab a nourishing snack.
[Better not forget this or I might get shot.]
SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)Baristas and burger flippers shouldn't count on those kinds of jobs as a lifelong career?
Yavin4
(35,438 posts)Food service sector jobs are real jobs, and may indeed be a career for these people. Not everyone is going to be able to go to college and get a big paying corporate job.
SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)but managed to get gigs in the corporate and other worlds (non-service industry) and currently have a very good paying job at a large entertainment corporation.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)peacefrogman
(76 posts)Many graduate out of college with a degree and end up with two part time jobs that have nothing to do with their degree and living with three roommates.
SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)in 2007, and have worked at better jobs both corporate and other since 1995.
peacefrogman
(76 posts)That takes us a long way and we were able to start out in a different place than younger generations today. From what I see the job market is different today for those walking out of college than previous generation but unless seen up close, I doubt it will be recognized.
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)McDonald's makes the same claim and we don[t support them...Schulz has bribed us with his 'good ' works...but is a terrible employer and would make a horrific president....but of course he just wants to spoil the election so Trump wins and Schultz keeps his tax cuts.
lostnfound
(16,179 posts)As an occupation? Not everyone is cut out to be doctors and engineers.
Every full time job can and should be compensated by a living wage. Our economy is so distorted and top heavy, it seems unrealistic.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)maxsolomon
(33,338 posts)What's your source for these assertions?
Yavin4
(35,438 posts)https://www.businessinsider.com/worst-parts-of-working-at-starbucks-2017-5
maxsolomon
(33,338 posts)They say they do. Nothing in tyour link says they don't.
I don't think I swallowed anything. I'm asking for facts. I recognize they don't pay a great hourly wage. They do allow tips, and people do tip.
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)told is pretty shitty anyway. They have free market principle...high deductibles ...only pay for what you 'use' what really means what you can afford.
" In a letter to workers, Starbucks Chief Executive Howard Schultz said the company is "evolving" its benefits program so that employees (or "partners" in Starbucks-speak) "may shop, compare and choose health coverage with the similar convenience and personalization people experience when they shop, compare and choose airlines and airfare."
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)cost is. Someone making minimum wage cannot afford even the cheapest insurance. Unless of course that Starbucks pays 100% of insurance which is highly doubtful.
maxsolomon
(33,338 posts)nt
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)the insurance or tuition reimbursement? Starbucks sucks in terms of employment. They pay worse than Walmart and Walmart does provide insurance these days. Also, most employees are kept part time...and not because they go to college either...to make sure the employee doesn't take the insurance. You posted a Starbucks link which is total bullshit propaganda. Try reading some of the many links available that are first hand accounts from people who work there.
maxsolomon
(33,338 posts)I have friends that work there who love the company.
They're not entry-level baristas.
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)having them take insurance is scum. Sure some like it more don't. I know kids desperate for Trans surgery promised who left a fairly good paying job in the hopes of getting surgery but can't get the insurance...he recently gave up.
maxsolomon
(33,338 posts)It wouldn't be shocking, but that's what I'm asking.
As for your Trans acquaintance, they left Starbucks? Not sure of the relevancy.
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)couldn't do it so he left...the insurance sucks because Schultz in 16 did a bait and switch where he raised wages ( where?) and downgraded insurance so employees could choose their level of coverage like and airplane ticket he said...shitty insurance but it is better than nothing except part time workers can't get it...they don't make enough to get it . Starbucks is a giant fraud. Walmart pays more and insures their workers.
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)people... well Schultz downgraded their insurance and told them they were lucky they had 'choices'...like buying an airline ticket. He sucks and so does the company. And they pretend to be socially conscioius which is infuriating.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)HOWEVER it cost an outrageous amount. It really was very unaffordable to most people who worked there. The highest plan covered less than Medicare. When a company boast that they offer insurance they might as well not offer it due to cost.
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)MoonchildCA
(1,301 posts)You needed to average a minimum of 20 (or maybe it was 24) hours per week to qualify.
On occasion, she would get over 30 hours in one week, but they would also throw weeks at her where she only worked two days, and often only one day, so she would never exceed the minimum required hours.
They did this to many of her fellow coworkers as well--none of her close friends who worked there had insurance either. This is before Obamacare kicked in.
Also, if you called in sick, you had to get your own shift covered. It didn't matter how sick you were. You had an employee list of your store and all the surrounding stores, and you called and called until you found someone.
maxsolomon
(33,338 posts)Another reason to have Insurance separated from Employment.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)They also enjoyed changing your schedule while you were gone after you checked before you left. We were treated like thieves. Way to many people who were the so called leaders, when you had several who kept telling you that what you were doing was wrong and to fix it in an hours time. They never sent a fill in for your break even if you told them early enough to find one and you were the one who got into trouble for not taking your break but if you left without a fill in you got in trouble for taking a break. You were never suppose to not help a customer no matter what but if you were headed for break or lunch and was late because you helped a customer you got into trouble. I could go on and on. I hated that place.
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)maryellen99
(3,788 posts)A HERETIC I AM
(24,368 posts)He used to be. He left the firm a VERY wealthy man back in June.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Schultz
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)market insurance ...in 16. I would love to know how he did this since it violates AVA coverage.
brooklynite
(94,540 posts)Yavin4
(35,438 posts)So, those are still his employees.