HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » General Discussion (Forum) » Any presidential hopeful ...

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 11:16 AM

Any presidential hopeful who helped railroad Al Franken is in my dog house...

Sorry but its the truth.

That is all.

110 replies, 5180 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 110 replies Author Time Post
Reply Any presidential hopeful who helped railroad Al Franken is in my dog house... (Original post)
Joe941 Feb 2019 OP
mac56 Feb 2019 #1
bearsfootball516 Feb 2019 #2
CincyDem Feb 2019 #3
vlyons Feb 2019 #4
GWC58 Feb 2019 #7
vlyons Feb 2019 #11
UniteFightBack Feb 2019 #14
Historic NY Feb 2019 #18
mgardener Feb 2019 #65
JaneQPublic Feb 2019 #76
jalan48 Feb 2019 #77
3Hotdogs Feb 2019 #5
violetpastille Feb 2019 #23
kelly1mm Feb 2019 #29
violetpastille Feb 2019 #33
kelly1mm Feb 2019 #34
SHRED Feb 2019 #6
still_one Feb 2019 #42
kelly1mm Feb 2019 #92
WeekiWater Feb 2019 #8
CrispyQ Feb 2019 #52
JHan Feb 2019 #79
NYC Liberal Feb 2019 #98
aikoaiko Feb 2019 #9
ananda Feb 2019 #10
brooklynite Feb 2019 #12
kelly1mm Feb 2019 #30
SansACause Feb 2019 #108
UniteFightBack Feb 2019 #13
kelly1mm Feb 2019 #31
UniteFightBack Feb 2019 #51
kelly1mm Feb 2019 #90
UniteFightBack Feb 2019 #100
peacefrogman Feb 2019 #15
CrispyQ Feb 2019 #16
kelly1mm Feb 2019 #32
still_one Feb 2019 #43
LakeArenal Feb 2019 #45
riversedge Feb 2019 #49
question everything Feb 2019 #75
treestar Feb 2019 #17
FSogol Feb 2019 #46
Kurt V. Feb 2019 #19
themaguffin Feb 2019 #21
treestar Feb 2019 #101
themaguffin Feb 2019 #20
violetpastille Feb 2019 #22
MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #24
JI7 Feb 2019 #25
MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #27
still_one Feb 2019 #44
still_one Feb 2019 #37
LakeArenal Feb 2019 #47
uponit7771 Feb 2019 #71
Joe941 Feb 2019 #73
namahage Feb 2019 #109
JI7 Feb 2019 #26
Joe941 Feb 2019 #74
defacto7 Feb 2019 #28
still_one Feb 2019 #35
kelly1mm Feb 2019 #93
still_one Feb 2019 #99
lame54 Feb 2019 #36
still_one Feb 2019 #39
Mopar151 Feb 2019 #38
LakeArenal Feb 2019 #54
AirmensMom Feb 2019 #40
SansACause Feb 2019 #41
still_one Feb 2019 #48
violetpastille Feb 2019 #56
still_one Feb 2019 #59
JHan Feb 2019 #80
LakeArenal Feb 2019 #61
still_one Feb 2019 #66
LakeArenal Feb 2019 #70
still_one Feb 2019 #82
LakeArenal Feb 2019 #89
still_one Feb 2019 #97
Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #50
UniteFightBack Feb 2019 #53
still_one Feb 2019 #68
the_sly_pig Feb 2019 #55
brooklynite Feb 2019 #57
still_one Feb 2019 #62
Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #85
kelly1mm Feb 2019 #94
watoos Feb 2019 #58
LakeArenal Feb 2019 #72
Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #86
JustAnotherGen Feb 2019 #60
grandpamike1 Feb 2019 #63
samnsara Feb 2019 #64
Progressive2020 Feb 2019 #67
Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #87
treestar Feb 2019 #102
Progressive2020 Feb 2019 #105
Mr. Ected Feb 2019 #69
ooky Feb 2019 #78
murielm99 Feb 2019 #81
Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #88
green917 Feb 2019 #83
marieo1 Feb 2019 #84
Squinch Feb 2019 #91
oberliner Feb 2019 #95
Luciferous Feb 2019 #96
LiberalLovinLug Feb 2019 #103
sandensea Feb 2019 #104
LexVegas Feb 2019 #106
Scruffy1 Feb 2019 #107
Duppers Feb 2019 #110

Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 11:17 AM

1. x 1000

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 11:18 AM

2. Who would you say your preferred candidate is right now?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 11:19 AM

3. It's going to interesting to see what Stone's search turns up on this. n/t

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 11:21 AM

4. ditto

and let us not forget that one presidential aspirant was at one time a lawyer defending tobacco and had a high NRA rating. That's not a background that will attract my vote.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to vlyons (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 11:25 AM

7. My ultimate candidate for president is one that gets an

“F” grade by the NRA and an “A” rating by NORML. 🤔

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to GWC58 (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 11:28 AM

11. +1000

nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to vlyons (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 11:31 AM

14. A high NRA rating is shocking considering she is from upstate NY...SHOCKING! nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #14)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 11:54 AM

18. Because she lives in the gun area.

where the Cuomo haters live.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #14)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:52 PM

65. She is from Upstate NY

Only pockets of Democratic voters up here
We also have the deplorable Elise Stefanik (R) as our Congress Rep
I will not support her candidacy after what she did to Al Franken.
Elizabeth Warren would be my choice at this time.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #14)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 02:09 PM

76. Now, she actually votes AGAINST Trump more than any other Senator

According to Nate Silver's FiveThirtyEight, She has voted with Trump on 11.4 percent of the time.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/



Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to vlyons (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 02:11 PM

77. The fact that she was willing to work defending the dispensers of poison (tobacco) tells me she is

ethically challenged.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 11:24 AM

5. Me too.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #5)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 12:32 PM

23. When you say "Doghouse"

Do you mean "peeved at"

or do you mean "not going to vote for if chosen as Democratic nominee for President"?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to violetpastille (Reply #23)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 12:59 PM

29. Fishing for TOS violations? Nice! Nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to kelly1mm (Reply #29)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:06 PM

33. No, actually.

Just asking.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to violetpastille (Reply #33)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:09 PM

34. Since you put quote marks and that language

Is pulled straight from the TOS is sure seem like fishing!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 11:25 AM

6. There goes Harris then

 

I will vote for whomever our candidate is.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to SHRED (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:27 PM

42. It eliminates all declared and potential Democratic cnadidates except Bloomberg. The OP obviously

thought his preference didn't call for Franken resignation, unless his preference is Bloomberg

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to still_one (Reply #42)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 03:14 PM

92. John Delaney......

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 11:25 AM

8. Wipes out over half of our current field. Sanders, Gabbard, Warren, Gillibrand, Harris.

 

Maybe Manchin will jump in. He stood on the right side of history, in this instance.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to WeekiWater (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:38 PM

52. "Maybe Manchin will jump in." --Thread win!

For all the folks with bent noses about Franken.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to WeekiWater (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 02:14 PM

79. lol.

take win.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to WeekiWater (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 03:35 PM

98. Add Cory Booker to that list too.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 11:27 AM

9. At this point, what is done is done. And I want the best Democratic candidate possible


Beating Trump and advancing our priorities is more important than Al Franken.

Having said that I think Al Franken as a sitting Senator would have been the best candidate for the Democratic party for President.


Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 11:27 AM

10. Mine too!

It was a week of infamy for Democrats.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 11:29 AM

12. So we've eliminated every Democratic Senator...

That leaves you with four Governors, 3-4 House members and Pete Buttigieg.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to brooklynite (Reply #12)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:02 PM

30. That is about right! Calling for Sen. Franken

To resign shows a lack of judgement to be President.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to kelly1mm (Reply #30)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 04:48 PM

108. Agreed! n/t

n/t

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 11:30 AM

13. Yeah and what does that mean? nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #13)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:04 PM

31. For me it means not voting for any of them

in the primaries and pointing out to anyone I can their lack of judgement to be President.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to kelly1mm (Reply #31)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:37 PM

51. Makes me wonder who's side you are on. nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #51)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 03:04 PM

90. I am on the side of those who did not throw

Sen. Franken under the bus.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to kelly1mm (Reply #90)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 03:53 PM

100. After the 8th person a congressional staffer that many Senators knew came out that broke the

camels back. The hypocrisy regarding this is mind boggling.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 11:33 AM

15. With 38 Senators suggesting Franken resign, I think if I was Russia, this is what I would use.

 

A consideration.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 11:39 AM

16. You might want to check out who all is on that list.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/06/full-list-senators-call-for-al-franken-to-resign-282175

Feinstein - CA
Harris - CA
Bennet - CO
Murphy - CT
Carper - DE
Nelson - FL
Hirono - HI
Duckworth - IL
Durbin - IL
Donnelly - IN
Markey - MA
Warren - MA
King - ME
Peters - MI
Stabenow - MI
McCaskill - MO
Tester - MT
Heitkamp - ND
Hassan - NH
Booker - NJ
Heinrich - NM
Udall - NM
Gillibarnd - NY
Schumer - NY
Brown - OH
Merkley - OR
Wyden - OR
Casey - PA
Reed - RI
Whitehouse - RI
Leahy - VT
Sanders - VT
Cantwell - WA
Murray - WA
Baldwin - WI

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to CrispyQ (Reply #16)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:06 PM

32. Yep! That's them! Calling for Sen. Franken

To resign shows they lack the judgement to be President. Thanks for the list by the way!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to CrispyQ (Reply #16)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:29 PM

43. Looks like the OP is all in for Bloomberg.... hmmmmmm, "Schultz"??????????

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to CrispyQ (Reply #16)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:31 PM

45. Yes. And don't think some of my ex-favorites aren't on that list.

I’m talking to you,Cory Booker who announced on the View today and you, Tammy Baldwin.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to CrispyQ (Reply #16)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:33 PM

49. 35 Dem Senators asked Al to resign. I do not hold a grudge against any of them.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to CrispyQ (Reply #16)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 02:09 PM

75. Then perhaps, the senate is not the place to look for the next president

Until Obama the presidents had some executive experience.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 11:41 AM

17. People quit saying what you don't want and letting one thing

be something that will "not get my vote."

Tell us who you want and why.

Just picking the worst about a person and then having their supporters try to defend it does not work out for us. Didn't we learn this?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to treestar (Reply #17)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:31 PM

46. Why? Isn't promoting the negatives and "one thing-ism" the best way to divide us?

Seems to be working! ?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 11:57 AM

19. i don't care about that one bit. the next dem candidate

for pres is far too important

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Kurt V. (Reply #19)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 12:02 PM

21. +1000

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Kurt V. (Reply #19)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 03:57 PM

101. +100000000

I doubt even Al himself would want this.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 11:58 AM

20. I love Al, but not with you on this.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to themaguffin (Reply #20)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 12:30 PM

22. +1

Al Franken is not going to sit out the GE if the Democratic nominee was one of those who encouraged him to resign.

I'm am certain he will not.

Voting for the Democratic nominee is mandatory for Democrats.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 12:39 PM

24. Really? You seem to be all in for Bernie.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #24)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 12:43 PM

25. they usually are. I guess it was only bad that democrats did it

 

bernie doesn't count since he isn't a democrat

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to JI7 (Reply #25)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 12:45 PM

27. It's completely obvious.

I mean even your average joe can see it.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to JI7 (Reply #25)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:30 PM

44. Both Senators in Vermont, including Sanders called on Franken to resign

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #24)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:11 PM

37. If so then the OP must think Bernie is a dog since he joined the chorus asking Franken to resign

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #24)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:32 PM

47. Bernie is irrelevant to this Dem. Not worth a mention

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #24)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 02:01 PM

71. You're for Bernie though, sounds a little bit forked

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #24)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 02:06 PM

73. I was for Bernie. Looking more at Biden these days.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Reply #73)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:26 PM

109. So what changed?

It's not like the letter, and Sen. Franken's resignation, happened just in the past few days.

Bernie's participation in the "railroading" of Franken wasn't a dealbreaker then. So why now?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 12:43 PM

26. then why do you support Bernie Sanders ?

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to JI7 (Reply #26)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 02:06 PM

74. Moving more towards Biden these days.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 12:50 PM

28. I understand being pissed... but I'm voting for the Democratic candidate

whoever it is.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:09 PM

35. Dem candidates calling for Franken to resign: Harris, Gillibrand, Brown, Warren, Booker, Sanders,

gee that leaves Bloomberg

I only listed the potential or declared candidates

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to still_one (Reply #35)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 03:18 PM

93. There are many other declared candidates.

Other than Bloomberg. John Delaney is one.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to kelly1mm (Reply #93)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 03:35 PM

99. I am sure I missed some, and my Bloomberg response was being sarcastic

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:11 PM

36. That eliminates most

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to lame54 (Reply #36)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:14 PM

39. Including Bernie Sanders. Interesting choices left for the OP

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:11 PM

38. That's what primaries are for.

Oddly enough, the voters of Snow Crab, NH and Haybale IA will grill them quite thoroughly on this. Many of us are all worn out on manufactured scandal, and a lot of us liked Al.

NH has extra baggage to consider - Political "kneecapping" is a stock in trade for the Republican/Bircher politicans and media. to wit: Wil Delker, Ed Muskie

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Mopar151 (Reply #38)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:38 PM

54. Exactly. Elimination by personal choices.

That’s one of the first disqualifying items.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:24 PM

40. I'm as pissed about Al Franken as anyone else.

However, Dems insist on proving that requiring a purity test loses elections for us. The Republicans vote for a sack of rocks if it had an R beside its name. Consequently, we end up with someone worse than any Dem could be on their worst day. I'm going to do what the Repubs do in the GE: Vote for whatever sack of rocks has a D beside its name. Well, actually, there are no sacks or rocks running on our side. I'll vote for our candidate. Period. Seriously, anything else is suicide. And if you can't get behind the person who wins the Democratic primary, you don't belong here.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:26 PM

41. I'm with you.

Anyone who helped Roger Stone railroad Al Franken is never getting my vote.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to SansACause (Reply #41)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:33 PM

48. That eliminates every candidiate or potential candidate that will run for the Democratic nomination

except Bloomberg.


Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to still_one (Reply #48)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:39 PM

56. This thread is..sure interesting. n/t

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to violetpastille (Reply #56)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:41 PM

59. Isn't it though.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to violetpastille (Reply #56)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 02:16 PM

80. i'm laughing my ass off :)

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to still_one (Reply #48)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:42 PM

61. Not really. Joe stays high in the polls.

Beto. Klobuchar. Castro. I’d take Schiff in a nano. It’s over a year away. Who knows who might throw their hat in.

It’s called narrowing the field until you choose.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LakeArenal (Reply #61)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:53 PM

66. Good point, however, in my view Beto isn't going to run, and neither is Schiff. Biden was quiet on

the whole situation, and understandably so not only with the Anita Hill involvement, but his touchy feely style

Regardless, as far as I am aware Castro wasn't asked, nor did he solicit any view on the matter, same with Joe Biden.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to still_one (Reply #66)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 02:00 PM

70. You rationalize your choices. I'll mine.

It’s still a year away. If I made a choice today it would be Joe. But, as I said there’s still time.

There’s also a chance one of those senators might say: I had bad judgement and shouldn’t have jumped before due process for Al. Chances are slim, but who knows. Just as I believe Joe has evolved from the Anita Hill debacle.

That’s why we take our time.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LakeArenal (Reply #70)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 02:19 PM

82. I am not rationalizing my choices, and I haven't made my mind up yet, though believe it or not I

actually think Joe Biden is not only the most qualified candidate in the group, I believe he also has the best chance to win, since I believe he can attract the most diverse voters compared to the other candidates, except for maybe Sherrod Brown.

I just wish Joe would declare he is running already.

My comment relating to Biden wasn't a slam against Biden, but it is going to get thrown at him if he runs. I am sure he realizes it also.


In fact, most of the probable leading candidates are going to get some uncomfortable things thrown at them, and I am sure they are aware of it.

The bottom line is as you alluded to, no one candidate is going to please everyone



Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to still_one (Reply #82)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 02:45 PM

89. I believe you.

Not with regard to you, but that’s what I say about “dividing” the party.

Still_One can discuss issues with LakeArenal and it no way divides us.

It’s the primaries. That’s what we do.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LakeArenal (Reply #89)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 03:34 PM

97. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:35 PM

50. So you're giving Stone a two for

 

He takes out Franken and damages the most competitive candidates against Trump in the process.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:38 PM

53. Anyone who takes this black and white absolute position makes me wonder which side they are on. nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #53)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:58 PM

68. This is pure flamebait. The OP is saying this is the ONE ISSUE that determines who he will vote

for President

Wow is all I can say.

To hell with Civil Rights, Women's Rights, Worker's Rights, the environment, taking away people's healthcare, etc. etc. etc.







Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:38 PM

55. I just listened to a Gillibrand interview on MPR...

When asked about Franken and the backlash she complained that she saw in the military a declination to even investigate accusations of sexual harassment or rape. She essentially equated Franken with gropers and rapists. She didn’t answer the question about Franken, she spent her time complaining about “the backlash”.

Ironic.

I will only vote for her if she is the democratic nominee. I prefer Senator Warren or Senator Harris.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to the_sly_pig (Reply #55)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:39 PM

57. ..who said the same thing she did.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to the_sly_pig (Reply #55)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:43 PM

62. you do realize that both Harris and Warren jumped on the band wagon asking for Franken to resign?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to the_sly_pig (Reply #55)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 02:39 PM

85. Both of whom

 

called for Franken to resign.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to the_sly_pig (Reply #55)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 03:23 PM

94. Sen. Gillibrand also has her work for tobacco

Companies that shows she lacks the judgement to be President.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:41 PM

58. Look, I think that Franken should have been given the chance

 

to defend himself.

With that said, there is only one way that a Democratic presidential nominee loses the 2020 election. The only fucking way that we lose in 2020 is if we fight among ourselves.

Haven't we learned a thing from 2016? This election cycle started with Bernie and Hillary trolls and bots, soon there will be trolls and bots for all of our candidates, SMH.

We don't have a candidate who is perfect, the sooner we accept that the better chance we have to deal with all of the trolls and bots on social media.

United we stand, divided we fall.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to watoos (Reply #58)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 02:04 PM

72. Drama. That's totally not true in a primary.

Eliminating candidates is the process.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to watoos (Reply #58)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 02:39 PM

86. Well said nt

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:42 PM

60. To each their own

But if you are in a swing state and one of those ends up being our candidate -

You gotta vote for them.

If you don't - you doom all of us to another four years of Trump.


Count me in the Trump Walks column . . . We only get rid of him by voting his ass out.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:46 PM

63. I know this is not

Original, but, Me Too. She led the cheers, to silence one of the strongest Dem voices in Congress, and there is not a chance in hell that I, or my family would vote for her, even if she beocomes the candidate, which, of course, she won't.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:50 PM

64. AMEN!!!!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:54 PM

67. Democratic Candidate

I will vote for whomever the Democratic Candidate is. That said, I am not a fan of Gillibrand because of the fact that she basically led the ouster of Franken.

There are people on the list of Congress people who called for Franken to resign that I still like anyway, particularly Booker. I like Harris.

I like Warren, but she seems a little too nice for rough politics, even though her positions and philosophy are great. She comes off as a sort of kindly librarian, whereas we need a street fighter to take the battle to man-child Trump.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Progressive2020 (Reply #67)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 02:42 PM

87. So Booker, Harris and Warren

 

were just blind followers of Gillibrand? Doesn’t say much about them does it?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Progressive2020 (Reply #67)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 03:58 PM

102. Don't underestimate the kindly librarian's

capacity for street fighting when she cares about something!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to treestar (Reply #102)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 04:20 PM

105. Yeah, Maybe

I have known some tough Librarians. Maybe my original point was mistaken...

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:58 PM

69. It's a factor in my decision, but not the only one

I'm a huge Sherrod Brown fan, so his stance on Al was disheartening and diminishes him in my eyes.

I'll put all of the anti-Franken candidates in a category and choose my favorite candidate of the bunch.

Then I'll put all the others in another category and choose my favorite out of this grouping.

I'll then make my final decision between the two choices. Perhaps my anger will have subsided by then. Or perhaps not.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 02:14 PM

78. I didn't like it, but

I'm a yellow dog.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 02:19 PM

81. I am not going to get involved in

any purity tests. We lose too many elections that way.

You want to flame me? Go ahead.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to murielm99 (Reply #81)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 02:43 PM

88. Good for you

 

and well said.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 02:22 PM

83. they won't have my support

they (sen. Gillibrand in particular) disenfranchised millions of voters from Minnesota (including yours truly) in a shameful political ploy to stay above the fray, as it were, in light of he Roy Moore scandal and that kind of political gamesmanship is unseemly and, in my opinion, a disqualifier.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 02:29 PM

84. Supporter of Al!!

I agree 100%!!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 03:08 PM

91. I couldn't care less who is in your dog house. Sorry, but it's the truth. That is all

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Squinch (Reply #91)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 03:23 PM

95. Amen

 

Sounds like someone needs to watch the full video!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 03:29 PM

96. High scores from the NRA are also a problem for me

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 04:03 PM

103. We have to forgive the co-signers, but I'd like know who besides Gillibrand was the pot stirrer?

I suspect it was a top down edict, and Gillibrand was just the first and most enthusiastic about signing on and taking down a rival.

I "frankly" think it was unnecessary if their goal was to shore up the non-votes for Roy Moore. I think he was going down regardless. It wasn't as if a whole lot of Republicans could be swayed by that kind of knee jerk response by Democrats against one of their own. Republicans don't admire moves like that, they laugh at the weakness of it, even as they get rid of one of the prickliest thorns in the Senate.

I am disappointed that no one came to Al's aid, and it was a gang mentality where no one (of those who had higher aspirations) wanted to be left out in the stoning. The heights of the metoo. I think the order came from above to make a clean break with Franken - regardless if the charges had any merit - in order to play the "when they go low, we find something we can find even remotely similar with one of our own, hey we even accept work done for us in this regard by Roger Stone and Don Jr., and then send him to the moon!" tactic. That'll show em! And once the dog pile started it was difficult to be left out.

I wonder how much Democrats in Washington actually read this forum? Do they realize the level of disgust of the Franken debacle crosses all lines in the big tent? Its the only topic where I find DUers whom I have bitter battles with on other topics, agreeing how Franken was railroaded and also how much he is needed and we miss him.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 04:05 PM

104. Same here.

I for one hope Sillybrand is primaried out of her seat.

Plus she was a real right-winger in her younger days, so I understand.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 04:21 PM

106. ....

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 04:39 PM

107. I've been around politics a long time.

I was and am pissed off about the Franken debacle, but life goes on. The whole thing had Roger Stone written all over it. Al was in the wrong place at the wrong time and the claims were giving the fascists bastard something to grab on to. He was a victim of what aboutism. One bad decision dosn't necesarily make a politician all bad. The primaries will decide and I will vote for the Democrat even if not my favorite.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:45 PM

110. Yellow dog dem here will vote for the candidate.

But my heart's still with Al. He was obviously railroaded.



Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread