Sat Feb 2, 2019, 11:13 AM

dsc (51,932 posts)

As a gay man watching Joy Reid discuss Northam is kind of surreal

She still, to my knowledge, has refused to even admit that the statements about gays and lesbians she blogged are even hers. I have to wonder where she gets the nerve to discuss this.

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As a gay man watching Joy Reid discuss Northam is kind of surreal (Original post)	dsc	Feb 2019	OP
I don't watch her anymore because of that	janterry	Feb 2019	#1
I only watch Maddow when she is on, don't bother watching any other network program nt	yaesu	Feb 2019	#34
As a straight man, I was thinking the same thing.	stopbush	Feb 2019	#2
I used to watch her now i'm watching Gunsmoke.	dem4decades	Feb 2019	#3
sort of like ...... a wall.....	pangaia	Feb 2019	#28
She extensively apologized. nt	UniteFightBack	Feb 2019	#4
No she didn't	dsc	Feb 2019	#5
Did she ever finally admit that there was no hacking?	oberliner	Feb 2019	#8
To my knowledge no	dsc	Feb 2019	#10
I don't go out of my way to watch her and I definitely don't look at her the same.	DemocratSinceBirth	Feb 2019	#12
I rarely watch her but did make a point to watch her today	dsc	Feb 2019	#15
It is so hard to be morally true.	DemocratSinceBirth	Feb 2019	#16
Not directly. She said she cannot prove her account was hacked	still_one	Feb 2019	#56
Maybe she should revisit that subject	oberliner	Feb 2019	#61
Northam has apologized for this photo as well	oberliner	Feb 2019	#7
He should have claimed his yearbook was hacked and the FBI is looking in to it.	Hassin Bin Sober	Feb 2019	#11
Or someone went back in the Hot Tub Time Machine and forced him to do it.	DemocratSinceBirth	Feb 2019	#17
His "that was not me in the photo" potential statement is sort of like that	oberliner	Feb 2019	#24
When he got caught, my understanding is Reid showed remorse BEFORE those post were brought up again	uponit7771	Feb 2019	#33
Naw.	demmiblue	Feb 2019	#13
So she stands by the hacking claim?	oberliner	Feb 2019	#25
I didn't realize her explanation was so preposterous	Awsi Dooger	Feb 2019	#45
"and I'm not the person I was then"....wow	Demonaut	Feb 2019	#46
As an LGBTQ person I can no longer watch her. She apologized after she lied.	58Sunliner	Feb 2019	#6
As a gay woman, I completely agree.	cwydro	Feb 2019	#9
When I turn on Rachel show and Joy is the sub, I turn off immediately, but not because Joy is not	empedocles	Feb 2019	#14
She is not in elected office.	cilla4progress	Feb 2019	#18
It doesn't matter. People like to take these hard line positions. Yup she said something I didn't	UniteFightBack	Feb 2019	#19
NO that isn't what we were saying	dsc	Feb 2019	#21
I choose to look at and focus on the 99% she gets right. Bottom line she is one of the good	UniteFightBack	Feb 2019	#23
Yes, it DOES matter. People are free not to watch her. Virginians are NOT FREE to turn off Northam.	pnwmom	Feb 2019	#37
but what if Virginians still WANTED him to be Governor ? would that be reason for him to stay ?	JI7	Feb 2019	#54
Not at this point. An opinion poll wouldn't cut it. Are you aware that the Florida Secretary of	pnwmom	Feb 2019	#55
Why should we have different standards	treestar	Feb 2019	#63
Good point.	borgesian	Feb 2019	#20
Owned up to it, sure.	namahage	Feb 2019	#47
He's lying.	Iggo	Feb 2019	#66
It's pretty obvious you didn't watch his press conference.	lunatica	Feb 2019	#49
I'm straight and I agree with you	rollin74	Feb 2019	#22
A lot of the things being said today are relevant to other forms of bigotry.	yardwork	Feb 2019	#26
I think Joy's shows are excellent but you raise a very	spooky3	Feb 2019	#27
I began wondering last night why we seem ready to	dflprincess	Feb 2019	#29
Equating racism and racist behavior?	HipChick	Feb 2019	#30
So hating gays is better than hating other races	dsc	Feb 2019	#31
It is certainly more acceptable here on du.	Tipperary	Feb 2019	#51
As an ally I will not watch her.	MuseRider	Feb 2019	#32
Last I checked Joy Reid wasn't holding elective office. People are free not to watch her,	pnwmom	Feb 2019	#35
Thaaank You!	djacq	Feb 2019	#38
So if tomorrow we found out that Sean Hannity	dsc	Feb 2019	#40
I would say it's not comparable to the Governor. Still.	pnwmom	Feb 2019	#43
That wasn't the question	melman	Feb 2019	#59
I wasn't talking to you. n/t	pnwmom	Feb 2019	#60
I didn't say you were	melman	Feb 2019	#62
That's a real dodge	treestar	Feb 2019	#65
Tulsi Gabbard is running for President.	treestar	Feb 2019	#67
LOL. You must have missed it. Others complain that I post way too much	pnwmom	Feb 2019	#68
I missed that. But good to be consistent.	treestar	Feb 2019	#70
LOL! Straw man! Like Maddow, who is gay, would	lunatica	Feb 2019	#50
As a gay man myself I wish that were the case	FreeState	Feb 2019	#69
1.4 million people didn't go to the polls and cast ballots for Joy Reid.	Hassin Bin Sober	Feb 2019	#42
She is under contract with MSNBC. She was assuredly one of their key players when this came out.	Mr. Ected	Feb 2019	#36
Why I care less about what Joy Reid said than I do about Northam's	Goodheart	Feb 2019	#39
You make an excellent point. In the case of Joy Reid all they need to do is change the cannel.	still_one	Feb 2019	#57
Oh, but it is very different - don't you know.	Ms. Toad	Feb 2019	#41
I haven't watched her since that came out. I wonder if the FBI is still looking into it.	Autumn	Feb 2019	#44
I won't watch her	Raine	Feb 2019	#48
As the daughter of a gay man, watching Tulsi Gabbard campaign for President	pnwmom	Feb 2019	#52
It does make you wonder.	InAbLuEsTaTe	Feb 2019	#53
I still watch her, but...	Mike Nelson	Feb 2019	#58
Is she taking a side?	treestar	Feb 2019	#64

Response to dsc (Original post)

Sat Feb 2, 2019, 11:18 AM

janterry (4,429 posts)

1. I don't watch her anymore because of that

and it begets the question - what is the path back - when you have been wrong.

It reminds me of Franken, he said (to my ear) the right things. And yet, there was no path for him.

Northam's error was worse, looks worse. But who gets a path back? Those who lie? Those who shrug their shoulders and move ahead (think trump)
Or those who tell the truth and try to make amends.

Even if someone doesn't like Northam and doesn't think he deserves that path back

we still have to have a path....

As a gay man watching Joy Reid discuss Northam is kind of surreal

1. I don't watch her anymore because of that

34. I only watch Maddow when she is on, don't bother watching any other network program nt

2. As a straight man, I was thinking the same thing.

3. I used to watch her now i'm watching Gunsmoke.

28. sort of like ...... a wall.....

4. She extensively apologized. nt

5. No she didn't

8. Did she ever finally admit that there was no hacking?

10. To my knowledge no

12. I don't go out of my way to watch her and I definitely don't look at her the same.

15. I rarely watch her but did make a point to watch her today

16. It is so hard to be morally true.

56. Not directly. She said she cannot prove her account was hacked

61. Maybe she should revisit that subject

7. Northam has apologized for this photo as well

11. He should have claimed his yearbook was hacked and the FBI is looking in to it.

17. Or someone went back in the Hot Tub Time Machine and forced him to do it.

24. His "that was not me in the photo" potential statement is sort of like that

33. When he got caught, my understanding is Reid showed remorse BEFORE those post were brought up again

13. Naw.

25. So she stands by the hacking claim?

45. I didn't realize her explanation was so preposterous

46. "and I'm not the person I was then"....wow

6. As an LGBTQ person I can no longer watch her. She apologized after she lied.

9. As a gay woman, I completely agree.

14. When I turn on Rachel show and Joy is the sub, I turn off immediately, but not because Joy is not

18. She is not in elected office.

19. It doesn't matter. People like to take these hard line positions. Yup she said something I didn't

21. NO that isn't what we were saying

23. I choose to look at and focus on the 99% she gets right. Bottom line she is one of the good

37. Yes, it DOES matter. People are free not to watch her. Virginians are NOT FREE to turn off Northam.

54. but what if Virginians still WANTED him to be Governor ? would that be reason for him to stay ?

55. Not at this point. An opinion poll wouldn't cut it. Are you aware that the Florida Secretary of

63. Why should we have different standards

20. Good point.

47. Owned up to it, sure.

66. He's lying.

49. It's pretty obvious you didn't watch his press conference.

22. I'm straight and I agree with you

26. A lot of the things being said today are relevant to other forms of bigotry.

27. I think Joy's shows are excellent but you raise a very

29. I began wondering last night why we seem ready to

30. Equating racism and racist behavior?

31. So hating gays is better than hating other races

51. It is certainly more acceptable here on du.

32. As an ally I will not watch her.

35. Last I checked Joy Reid wasn't holding elective office. People are free not to watch her,

38. Thaaank You!

40. So if tomorrow we found out that Sean Hannity

43. I would say it's not comparable to the Governor. Still.

59. That wasn't the question

60. I wasn't talking to you. n/t

62. I didn't say you were

65. That's a real dodge

67. Tulsi Gabbard is running for President.

68. LOL. You must have missed it. Others complain that I post way too much

70. I missed that. But good to be consistent.

50. LOL! Straw man! Like Maddow, who is gay, would

69. As a gay man myself I wish that were the case

42. 1.4 million people didn't go to the polls and cast ballots for Joy Reid.

36. She is under contract with MSNBC. She was assuredly one of their key players when this came out.

39. Why I care less about what Joy Reid said than I do about Northam's

57. You make an excellent point. In the case of Joy Reid all they need to do is change the cannel.

41. Oh, but it is very different - don't you know.

44. I haven't watched her since that came out. I wonder if the FBI is still looking into it.

48. I won't watch her

52. As the daughter of a gay man, watching Tulsi Gabbard campaign for President

53. It does make you wonder.

58. I still watch her, but...

64. Is she taking a side?