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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBillionaire Howard Schultz doesn't want to be called a billionaire and people are having none of it
The 65-year-old billionaire from Brooklyn didn't quite agree with this sentiment and instead said that he'd prefer billionaires to be called something different.
The moniker 'billionaire' now has become the catchphrase. I would rephrase that and say that 'people of means' have been able to leverage their wealth and their interest in ways that are unfair, and I think that speaks to the inequality but it also speaks to the special interests that are paid for 'people of wealth' and corporations who are looking for influence.
Link to tweet
[link:https://www.indy100.com/article/howard-schultz-billionaire-starbucks-ceo-andrew-sorkin-twitter-response-video-8763696|
Spot the male pale and rich stale first world snowflake......
DirtEdonE
(1,220 posts)Is a failed society, IMO.
Need proof? USA
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)when sworn in as speaker. I noticed! The press buried it, but then almost all those who like their jobs way too much work for one of several giant international conglomerates.
DirtEdonE
(1,220 posts)Where they own all the property, run the bank, Community Chest and Chance.
I'm waiting for something to trickle down but they seem to be too constipated on greed to even take a piss no less take a nice economic dump on us.
Edit - they also have lifetime Get Out of Jail cards.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)an outsize share, almost all flowed up to the wealthy while they simultaneously cut pay drastically for half of all workers. Because they could. The other half of us have been seeing some trickle down and have a fair amount of money to throw around, certainly enough to inflate prices well beyond what many once could but no longer can afford.
Our grandparents already fought this battle and won, though, and IMO the electorate destroyed the controls and prosperity we inherited from them every bit as much as the greedy rich. They were ours to keep or lose -- or more accurately as it turned out, to destroy for them out of stupidity.
Oh, well. Control of government in 2020, then once again begin the long battle to get the harness back on superpowerful classes that will fight it all the way.
Encouragingly, though, even with their Republican congress on the front lines, Obama was able to raise personal tax rates on the wealthy back to pre-Reagan levels.
FakeNoose
(32,726 posts)... still biting us in the ass each and every day.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)those telling him The Word to say. Of course, his handlers came well before him.
Ever watch Alpha House with John Goodman, etc? Remember the one at a Republican retreat held at an old slave plantation, where an entertainer's act was all Reagan quotations? The audience went from puzzled and not believing he ever said those things to increasingly outraged until they all walked out.
Hilarious because true. Those who took over the Republican Party purged the conservatism the Reagan era opened with long ago, instead harnessing (and becoming harnessed by in turn) extreme-right passions to serve their interests. I hear even the Kochs, murderous anti-regulation criminals that they are, are dismayed by the tigers they loosed from their cages.
My best guess has always been that if they did succeed their faction would end up against a wall, shot by the most ruthless and committed group among their allies, Christian dominionists. But a murderous white nationalist authoritarian dictator, empowered by the same destructive populists the Kochs once developed into the Tea Party, might well decide they were too powerful to leave alive also. I could see Pence in both roles.
Who really knows what Starbucky Billionaire is, besides suspiciously dishonest and willing to sabotage his own professed goals. Nice to see he's having a bad launch so far.
FakeNoose
(32,726 posts)... will all be dead soon. I can't believe I'm writing that, but it's about all we have to look forward to. The Kochs, Mercer, Scaife, and many others have done so much damage to this country. I wish we had a way to confiscate all their money. But of course we don't, because this isn't 18th century France. BTW I don't believe Cheeto or anyone in his family are Liberarians, they're just career criminals who saw an opportunity.
And I agree, Pence has to go - along with the entire Chump family.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)that we will. These billionaires obviously learned from the mistakes of the ruling class that arose from the first Gilded Age of greed. They didn't sufficiently divide to conquer the electorate, who were finally motivated when the Great Depression hurt the middle classes to use their power. This group divided us first. But we do know what to do if we unite. Under current law.
I'm afraid Venezuela is a model for a takeover, though. And not the only one either. When opposition groups finally came together and should have been able to take power and reform, Maduro quickly rigged the courts and laws and used them to block opposition and increase his power instead.
Agree entirely about the Trumps, a tacky low-end crime family. They're not our big problem, and if those who are decide to get rid of them...
Hey, even if Pence doesn't serve time in prison, how about after 5 awesomely (scarily) disciplined years doing his male Nancy Reagan act he leaves politics in disgrace, abandoned by God, without ever becoming president?
PatrickforO
(14,586 posts)The doctrine of the primacy of the shareholder (requiring CEOs of publicly held companies to put the interests of shareholders above those of workers, consumers and the environment) has ripped apart the very fabric of this nation.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)those who came before us established, is what is ripping apart our nation. So unbelievably stupid.
Abolishing laws governing vehicles and driving, allowing people to drive whatever they wanted wherever they could get to -- in the name of personal freedom, would be disastrous and unbelievably stupid also.
Both problems fixable by restoring controls, though. We certainly know how.
Don't like being run over by unregulated business? Slap the next nonvoter you see whining about the evils of capitalism to attention and tell him or her to stop being the problem he deplores.
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)He should be called a "Billie" pronounced "Bully".
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Let's just call them "the greediest, most selfish motherfuckers to ever walk the earth." Better, Howard?
pwb
(11,287 posts).
Soph0571
(9,685 posts)marble falls
(57,172 posts)dalton99a
(81,569 posts)Ponietz
(3,004 posts)JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Including 45% of the GOP. 70% from Democrats. 60% of Independents.
https://www.google.com/amp/nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2019/01/poll-large-majority-backs-aocs-70-top-marginal-tax-rate.html
Either that or the propaganda is working in overdrive more importantly economists support her proposal.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/05/opinion/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-tax-policy-dance.html
I'm not sure how a thread about Schultz turned into Warren vs AOC (who isn't even eligible to run in 2020).
shanny
(6,709 posts)They each have a plan to raise taxes on the wealthy; they are each a part of the government and are allowed to introduce such plans; the plans do not compete, they complement each other...along with John Larson's plan to eliminate the cap on SS withholding and Bernie's plan to raise the estate tax.
They are ALL parts of the solution imo. ymmv
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)I posted a poll which gave her stronger support than the poll in the Tweet and I mostly ventured into the main forums because I thought this would be a Schultz bashing thread because I'm sure he is one person we all agree on that needs to go.
I'm not one against the other I love them both. I'd be happy if Warren won the nomination and agree the plans do compliment each other
renate
(13,776 posts)Thank you!
Sentath
(2,243 posts)Fiscally Constipated
Wealth Hoarder
Financially Obese
like those better?
Wawannabe
(5,676 posts)Gets my vote. Billionaire is too nice.
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)Hoarders. Collectors of excessive stuff. SO MUCH STUFF
ProfessorPlum
(11,273 posts)that works for me
rpannier
(24,336 posts)Person of Means does not sound better
But... if he hates billionaire so much how about
1. Plutocrat
2. Cash sucking Leech
3. Robber Baron
4. The 1%
or if those don't work, I have one more idea that will help
Pay your employees more and give a few billion to charities until you have less than a billion dollars
And by charities, I don't mean the trumpian method of giving to your own charity
LittleGirl
(8,291 posts).001%
LittleGirl
(8,291 posts)IQ45 to run against him in 2020. Ya know, to ensure that if Schultz takes away votes from Dems, they will go to IQ45.
But who am I kidding...IQ45 won't be able to run from prison.
LakeSuperiorView
(1,533 posts)Try living for a year on $31,000, not using any of your residences and do actual work for 8+ hours a day. Find a way to buy a car without using any of your wealth, or use only public transit.
You wouldn't last a week.
3_Limes
(363 posts)Why?
TygrBright
(20,763 posts)Locrian
(4,522 posts)"Robber baron" is a derogatory metaphor of social criticism originally applied to certain late 19th-century American businessmen who were accused of using unscrupulous methods to get rich, or expand their wealth, for example Cornelius Vanderbilt taking money from government-subsidized shippers (hello jeff bezos), in order to not compete on their routes.
Filthy Rich means having an extremely large amount of money.
Anon-C
(3,430 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)nt
Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)Particularly in the context of the question.
Docreed2003
(16,869 posts)So how much money is enough money for "persons of means"?? Schultz is letting his rich, entitled, asshole flag fly...
rusty fender
(3,428 posts)or billionasses
Gothmog
(145,496 posts)From Juanita Jean http://juanitajean.com/satire-not-satire/
Howard Schultz would like me to stop calling him a billionaire because get this I am not a billionaire. Schultz feels that only billionaires can call other billionaires billionaire. You know, kinda like the n-word. He wants me to call him a person of means or a person of wealth.
I think he ought to be really thrilled that I dont call him a robber baron or a dragon guarding his hoard of gold.
Surely this is satire so I kept reading. And then theres a recording. Surely Schultz was being satirical. Until I realized that Schultz has no sense of humor. But, to his credit hes filled with whacko.