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(24,122 posts)UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)Cha
(297,190 posts)"Schultz thinks he's above it all but he's really just saying.. he doesn't know shit from shinola".. IOW.. he's a LIAR.
chwaliszewski
(1,514 posts)Duppers
(28,120 posts)Thanks for posting this. I'm sorry I missed his show tonight.
Gothmog
(145,176 posts)riverine
(516 posts)The GOP had not gone batshit crazy yet.
There was no Iraq War yet - for which I was told I was "unAmerican" for opposing from day one.
There was no Bush/Cheney/Rummy/Ashcroft yet.
There was no 2008 financial collapse. There were no unhinged Birthers.
And so on....
Gothmog
(145,176 posts)Due to Nader, we had the Iraq war, Citizens United and the gutting of the Voting Rights Act
Leith
(7,809 posts)Perhaps you just worded it badly, but please do not blame others for what rethugs did.
FWIW, I voted for Nader in 2000, too. I was living in North Carolina at the time. The polls said (correctly) that NC would go rethug overwhelmingly so my little protest vote wouldn't have changed the outcome. Nader wasn't even on the ballot; I had to write his name in.
Do you want to blame ME for the Iraq debacle, Citizens United, and the gutting of the Voting Rights Act, too?
Gothmog
(145,176 posts)Karl Rove funded Nader and got a great return on his investment http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-zuesse/ralph-nader-was-indispens_b_4235065.html
Furthermore, Karl Rove and the Republican Party knew this, and so they nurtured and crucially assisted Naders campaigns, both in 2000 and in 2004. On 27 October 2000, the APs Laura Meckler headlined GOP Group To Air Pro-Nader TV Ads. She opened: Hoping to boost Ralph Nader in states where he is threatening to hurt Al Gore, a Republican group is launching TV ads featuring Nader attacking the vice president [Mr. Gore]. ... Al Gore is suffering from election year delusion if he thinks his record on the environment is anything to be proud of, Nader says [in the commercial]. An announcer interjects: Whats Al Gores real record? Nader says: Eight years of principles betrayed and promises broken. Mecklers report continued: A spokeswoman for the Green Party nominee said that his campaign had no control over what other organizations do with Naders speeches. Bushs people - the group sponsoring this particular ad happened to be the Republican Leadership Council - knew exactly what they were doing, even though the liberal suckers who voted so carelessly for Ralph Nader obviously did not. Anyone who drives a car the way those liberal fools voted, faces charges of criminal negligence, at the very least. But this time, the entire nation crashed as a result; not merely a single car.....
On July 9th, the San Francisco Chronicle headlined GOP Doners Funding Nader: Bush Supporters Give Independents Bid a Financial Lift, and reported that the Nader campaign has received a recent windfall of contributions from deep-pocketed Republicans with a history of big contributions to the party, according to an analysis of federal records. Perhaps these contributors were Ambassador Egans other friends. Mr. Egans wife was now listed among the Nader contributors. Another listed was Nijad Fares, a Houston businessman, who donated $200,000 to the Bush inaugural committee and who donated $2,000 each to the Nader effort and the Bush campaign this year. Furthermore, Ari Berman reported 7 October 2004 at the Nation, under Swift Boat Veterans for Nader, that some major right-wing funders of a Republican smear campaign against Senator John Kerrys Vietnam service contributed also $13,500 to the Nader campaign, and that the Republican Party of Michigan gathered ninety percent of Naders signatures in their state (90%!) to place Nader on the ballot so Bush could win that swing states 17 electoral votes. Clearly, the word had gone out to Bushs big contributors: Help Ralphie boy! In fact, on 15 September 2005, John DiStaso of the Manchester Union-Leader, reported that, A year ago, as the Presidential general election campaign raged in battleground state New Hampshire, consumer advocate Ralph Nader found his way onto the ballot, with the help of veteran Republican strategist David Carney and the Carney-owned Norway Hill Associates consulting firm.
It was obvious, based upon the 2000 election results, that a dollar contributed to Nader in the 2004 contest would probably be a more effective way to achieve a Bush win against Kerry in the U.S. Presidential election than were perhaps even ten dollars contributed to Bush. This was a way of peeling crucial votes off from Bushs real opponent - votes that otherwise would have gone to the Democrat. Thats why the smartest Republican money in the 2004 Presidential election was actually going to Nader, even more so than to Bush himself: these indirect Bush contributions provided by far the biggest bang for the right-wing buck.
I also blame stein voters for trump
George II
(67,782 posts)If you voted for Nader you helped get bush elected.
Bluepinky
(2,268 posts)He no longer supports third party candidates and is vocal about his support for Democrats. Hes a large Democratic donor now.
Gothmog
(145,176 posts)betsuni
(25,482 posts)He begged Nader not to run against Kerry. He learned his lesson and has supported Democrats from then on, giving one million dollars to the Senate Majority PAC last year and the same amount to Priority USA Action, a PAC helping Obama be reelected in 2012.
spanone
(135,830 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)MelissaB
(16,420 posts)BSdetect
(8,998 posts)Its a repugnant tool from their assembly line of liars.
Judi Lynn
(160,527 posts)They haven't been in the same league, ever, because of human rights protections the Democrats have sought for such a long time, the same human rights the me-first group has fought.
bdamomma
(63,845 posts)True they are. They are not doing their jobs or take the oath or uphold the Constitution seriously.