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Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:05 AM

Each day that Northam and Fairfax don't resign is a victory for the rule of law

and America.

Northam has got this...but Fairfax needs more protection to keep them from Frankening him.

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Reply Each day that Northam and Fairfax don't resign is a victory for the rule of law (Original post)
Baltimike Feb 2019 OP
mikeysnot Feb 2019 #1
tblue37 Feb 2019 #25
mikeysnot Feb 2019 #31
Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #27
mr_lebowski Feb 2019 #2
Renew Deal Feb 2019 #3
enough Feb 2019 #4
Renew Deal Feb 2019 #5
Baltimike Feb 2019 #8
Renew Deal Feb 2019 #10
Baltimike Feb 2019 #12
Renew Deal Feb 2019 #14
Baltimike Feb 2019 #15
Renew Deal Feb 2019 #17
Baltimike Feb 2019 #21
Renew Deal Feb 2019 #23
Baltimike Feb 2019 #26
LexVegas Feb 2019 #38
Cold War Spook Feb 2019 #39
Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #19
Clash City Rocker Feb 2019 #6
Baltimike Feb 2019 #13
Clash City Rocker Feb 2019 #32
Baltimike Feb 2019 #34
DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #16
wildflower Feb 2019 #30
Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #20
Baltimike Feb 2019 #35
Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #36
Baltimike Feb 2019 #37
hughee99 Feb 2019 #7
bdamomma Feb 2019 #9
dalton99a Feb 2019 #11
jaysunb Feb 2019 #18
Charlotte Little Feb 2019 #22
Baltimike Feb 2019 #24
Post removed Feb 2019 #28
Baltimike Feb 2019 #29
oasis Feb 2019 #33
Baltimike Feb 2019 #40

Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:12 AM

1. My CT is that they ahd the goods on Fairfax

and started with Northam hoping they could get a three for and Franken them all into resigning at the same time.

My take, Northam stays until King resigns, trump resigns and pense resigns, if they don't then fuck off.

because if Northam has to resign for something from 25 years ago, these guys have to go first for things they are doing now.

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Response to mikeysnot (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:03 PM

25. 35 years. nt

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #25)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 04:00 PM

31. exactly

It probably has been only 35 minutes since trump stated something racist.

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Response to mikeysnot (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:08 PM

27. That's the way I see it.

They probably had Fairfax and looked for dirt on Northam

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:13 AM

2. Northam has nothing to do with 'the law', and I'm not convinced with Fairfax ...

But if Fairfax IS innocent, I appreciate him standing strong.

Northam needs better friggin' crisis mgt. people but I believe he's not a racist, and hence I approve of him not resigning unless some further evidence emerges.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:14 AM

3. You stand with the accused

You show them!

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #3)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:18 AM

4. It's not a team. It's not "standing with" the accused or the accuser.

Rule of law is due process that applies to both.

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Response to enough (Reply #4)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:21 AM

5. Sure you are.

They have been accused, rightly or wrongly. I'm sure that you have the intellectual honesty to stand with any accused person in either party.

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #3)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:26 AM

8. I stand with the innocent until proven guilty

You show 'em how you stand...I'll stand with the US Constitution

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #8)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:28 AM

10. In both parties right?

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #10)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:30 AM

12. There are more than two parties. nt

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #12)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:33 AM

14. Do you think Steve King should resign?

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #14)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:34 AM

15. false equivalence, and you know it.

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #15)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:39 AM

17. No it's not. He's a credibly accused racist.

Should he resign?

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #17)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:51 PM

21. The false equivalence is you pretending an outright racist THIS DAY

is equal to a photo in poor taste in a yearbook from THIRTY FIVE YEARS AGO where there were other photos in poor taste,

They. are. not. the. same. and. you. know. it.

No dice.

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #21)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:02 PM

23. That's fine. Do you call on Steve King to resign?

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #23)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:06 PM

26. Back to being a false equivalence. You're welcome. nt

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #23)

Wed Feb 13, 2019, 03:47 PM

38. Won't get an answer to that. Or if they thought Kavanaugh was being "Frankened".

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #17)

Wed Feb 13, 2019, 04:17 PM

39. Has he done something illegal?

What is his impeachable crime. It is up to him and his constituents. Is there anything in the Constitution about being a racist? A racist, not an act of racism.

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #3)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:59 AM

19. An accusation should not automatically make a person guilty of anything. I stand with the rule of

law...lets see if the truth can be discerned and if not than Fairfax remains.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:21 AM

6. And Trump. Don't forget how much this helps Trump.

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Response to Clash City Rocker (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:31 AM

13. Nice try there. No dice. But thanks for playing. nt

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #13)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 06:56 PM

32. Trump supporters are using Northam to excuse his bigotry

Northam staying in office may be good for his state, but it’s bad for his country.

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Response to Clash City Rocker (Reply #32)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 07:29 PM

34. Trump Supporters think Russia is a non story and the earth is flat

The day I let what MF45 supporters think being used as an impetus to get me to do a fucking thing will be the day hell freezes over.

Oh hey...but nice try. no dice.

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Response to Clash City Rocker (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:38 AM

16. I am so burned about this debate.

i have no problem saying Clarence Thomas, Brett Tavanaugh, Steve King, Donald Trump's misdeeds make them unfit to be repositories of the public trust so why can't I say ................................................... misdeeds make them unfit to be repositories of the public trust.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #16)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:24 PM

30. Good point

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Response to Clash City Rocker (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 12:01 PM

20. Falling for dirty tricks that resulted in handing over Virginia to the Rethugs would

help Trump much more. And for what something that happened 40 years ago? As for Fairfax...being accused doesn't mean he is guilty...dirty tricks brigade from the GOP must not get another win like they did with Franken.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #20)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 07:30 PM

35. THIS nt

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #35)

Wed Feb 13, 2019, 12:53 PM

36. Thanks

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #36)

Wed Feb 13, 2019, 03:44 PM

37. you are more than welcome. nt

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:23 AM

7. What law did Northam break? Resigning is completely legal.

Are you suggesting that someone shouldn’t have to give up their position because of public pressure? Are you suggesting that people should be treated as innocent until proven guilty?

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:27 AM

9. Due process of law

is required, instead of mob mentality.

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #9)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:30 AM

11. +1. Especially when one is accused of a crime


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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 11:56 AM

18. Good post. I totally agree. N/t

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 01:59 PM

22. Another Day on DU Means

another day of folks likening the rape accusations made by two credible women willing to testify to accusations made by women, some anonymous, who were treated inappropriately during photo ops (allegedly).

It's really gross and very republican-like, but who cares, right? Just as long as no one is "Franken'd" and the GOP doesn't seize power.

Those tinfoil hats must be getting awfully schweaty by now.

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Response to Charlotte Little (Reply #22)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:02 PM

24. Another day on DU means that

women who are credible welcome an investigation too, and not just guilty until proven innocent.

THAT is what is gross. Tin foil hats be damned, because this is what's happening.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #28)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 02:20 PM

29. Neither one of those women

are being shamed by me at all. Do you think a man should resign if he maintains he didn't do it?

But yeah, sure, keep substituting your judgement for mine, while convicting could-be assailants without having any evidence that a rape was committed. The timing of their claims is suspicious and it is clear you don't welcome an investigation, you have already made up your mind.

I haven't, and I certainly don't think Fairfax should resign before a thorough investigation.

Nice that you mention 4chan, when it was indeed a right wing outfit that launched both attacks on the top teir for the Commonwealth within days of each other.

But you go on ahead....you just keep doing you. I'll keep doing me.

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Response to Baltimike (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 07:21 PM

33. They may well have weathered the storm. nt

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Response to oasis (Reply #33)

Thu Feb 14, 2019, 10:56 PM

40. I am glad the right wing didn't get away with "guilty until innocent"

They want VA for some strange reason.

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